Hit the gym and got Jow Forums

>hit the gym and got Jow Forums
>erased or concealed all parts of my personality that could be deemed undesirable
>let a friend counsel me in terms of fashion and grooming
>worked on my humour and voice
>still, girls want nothing to do with me
>Im sure they can smell the desperation

When did you stop to care Anons? I want so so so bad to simply be noticed. I dont even want a gf or sex, I just want a little bit of attention and to matter to someone. Is that too much to ask for?
I guess it's just some men's fate to always remain unseen. But how can I stop caring? How long does it take until I finally don't give a shit anymore and accept the fact that I'm invisible? How long did it take for you, Anons?

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>want people to notice you
>simultaneously try to act as normal as possible
What?

Bumping myself because Im a pathetic loser like that

Normies are more prone to notice other normies. Weirdo outcasts are rarely noticed in a positive way

You're a fucking adult, hopefully, stop acting like labels mean anything. Goddamn frogposters.

But you're not a normie so you can only become a normie on the surface level. Basically that means you become the normiest of normies, and no one wants to talk with that.

Same story. Cant get a woman to like me and I don't know why. I got my life in order. Finished a top uni, got an above avg paying job as a fresh graduate. I also acquired a social hobby that exposes me to many women (dancing). I work out and take care of myself. I even redid my entire wardrobe with my first salary. Despite being very happy with the positive changes in my life, it kind of sucks that I have noone to share them with. Maybe I'm just that physically unattractive that nothing I do actually counts. ..

post pic for feedback. advice from other incel uggos isn't going to help you improve.

You are going to get no help here op. If you are striving for self-improvement people will notice and gravitate. I would suggest just getting the fuck off this website and focus on shit that makes you feel fulfilled rather than trying to conceal parts of your personality that you see as "undesirable" Non-autistic, functioning members of society notice fakeness, not if you are a "normie."

Just took a selife. Sorry but I will have to censor my eyes out.

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You look totally fine, above average for the average dude. You’re lacking in 1 department. That’s your confidence. When you’re confident you seem more relaxed, approachable and hotter. It’s really hard to fake it. Once I lost my virginity to an 8.5 outta 10 after faking my confidence, every woman after that was a piece of cake. I lost my virginity at 21.

What the fuck is wrong with you people. You are an above average looking guy... its you're desperation and insecuties holding you back. Try seeking therapy and getting the fuck off this autist fueled hellhole. You don't belong here.

Also fake confidence but not cockiness. Try to be down to earth... girls fucking hate fuckboi tryhards.

And how does one even do that? Ive been rejected by everyone I have asked out. I have never made it past the first date...

Start by being friends with the person you're interested in. The problem is everyone thinks that this will place them in the "friendzone" but the truth is most relationships start as two parties as friends. Then if an attraction is formed just state how you truly feel and then move on. People respect those who state their true intentions and respect is what you should strive for.

And just look up non manospherian videos, articles, and threads about first impressions and dating advice or whatnot. Charisma on command has some pretty good videos on this.

attempting tonight I want my teenage years back.

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Don't do anything you can't undo, user.

Don't do it user. The idealization of teenage youth on this website is not this pre-pubescent sex well of 10/10 qts that everyone makes it out to be. Irl most people have mediocre high school experiences that is often glamorized by Hughes movies and social media.

you look cute. but unfortunately, we can project a lot of whats going on inside to the outside very easily. you've worked on the outside (which you recognised needed work), now its time to do the inside.

as cute as a woman is going to find you, if you're desperate for the first female that comes along, she's going to think you're likely to cheat or simply don't actually like her. you NEED to work on yourself for YOU. you have the outside, now just fix the inside and you'll be set.

women want life partners, you have to bring something to the table, not just a pretty face. you don't have to be the most confident guy in the world, but as long as you have some sort of self esteem and idea of your worth, you'll be fine

you know I wish I lived that lie, but everyone did.

dude please do not. you have came so far and you have so much potential. don't let the incels poison your mind. work on improving yourself and not only will you feel so much happier FOR YOURSELF, you will meet someone who appreciates it too.

I am a female and I think you look really cute. But honestly speaking, everything you've said screams red flag for abusive behaviours down the line, for example, controlling me out of insecurity. I am not saying you would do this, but this is what most women will see. You've came this far. Just keep going.

Focus on where you are now. If you are in your 20s make the most by frequenting social events or finding friend apps or some shit. I guarantee you are not going to through with this and you are just gonna end up regretting that you missed out on whatever age you are now years down the line. Looking at the past is pointless there is nothing for you there.

Given how good looking you are and how very young you are being a bit of a drama queen.
Keep at it and youll be fine, remember not even 10/10 guys get %100 rate of return on flirting and even handsome men are rare to be above the 50% mark

controlling? manipulative? Youre kidding me. I had like 1 friend in highschool, and no one cared about my life, I did everything for my parents so they could shut the fuck up and now Im here, barely even trying to get a decent job and still making sacrifices. I never dated anybody, red flags? This is stupid, how can I have red flags for not ever dating once in my fucking life ?
I want to leave, I want a new life. Nothing happy has ever transpired in my family.

This OP, please seek therapy and try to avoid toxic forums.

I already missed out on some crap. I want a reroll.

And this is why you're single.. dude get therapy this is basic Incel Tears advice but honestly it is your toxic headspace that is keeping everyone at bay otherwise you are perfectly good looking person... its funny cause half of these proclaimed incels are and its usually actual uglys you'll see content with their lives.

Im not OP

Im single because I have no goddamned choice. If I really wanted a gf I'd be in a other city.

Did you even read what I said? I said I have NO proof that you are ACTUALLY like that. But I am saying as a woman who finds you attractive why I wouldn't date you, because for women its better to be safe than sorry. I don't want to fall in love with you, pop out 3 kids, just for you to turn around and beat the shit out of me knowing you have me pinned down. And this is how all women think. Women think in long terms. A woman would rather take her chances with an ugly fat dude who seemed chill and loving than a hottie who quite obviously demonstrates all the red flags of someone who would be controlling (again, not saying you are, but you have to understand that's the traits you're showing)

I don't understand why you were so strong to turn yourself around physically, but when it comes to emotionally, you're rolling over like "waah I cant' do this"

You've already done half the journey. Just keep going my dude. You have the potential. put in the work and you'll get there. And not only will it get you a great partner, you will genuinely be happy being alone with your own thoughts

Im not killing myself over a girl, I just hated thinking about my past and I want a re run, somepeople are just not grateful. Asian parents suck.

Wow dawg you look pretty good. Believe in yourself

>red flags for absuive behaviors down the line
Ive never screwed over my friends but they all stabbed my back at one point.

what's the point if her vagina is already destroyed. Not worth my time.
Im not attempting over a girl I never had any emotional baggage because I dont have a ex.

>ugly fat dude
>women would actually go for it
Not true.

The fact you're responding that is a red flag in itself. The way you're acting isn't that of a mentally balanced human being who would act reasonably with their partner.

Are you fucking blind? Go look out on the street. You will notice 9/10 times the woman is in a higher looks range than the dude.

What the fuck are you talking about it? God no wonder you're single. I can imagine trying to chat to you at a bar and hitting out with shite like this

what the fuck?
its not true here haha, no i dont hate women. the dating culture sucks, I don't care idk I talked to a friend recently and i guess his toxicity got to me. Im trying to ditch all of them cause they always stabbed my back as I played the joker but idk. This is the last time I talk to them.

I even tried to get a quick hook up I guess Im going to the wrong places or seeing the wrong people.

"I've clearly have had copious amounts of sex and speak for all women haha stupid virtue signaling bitch all you do is lie despite my stupid theories being disproven by taking a ten minute walk outside of my mother's basement"

?? what? I've never told a girl that.

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it's true, if girls like fat guys then why was I mocked for being fat when in reality i just had to drink water? I never ate like a pig, we didnt have a lot of clean water and I stopped eating 3 square meals, yet I was still bullied for being fat because they couldnt accept change. Idk not my problem.

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I'm not saying woman are physically attracted to fat dudes but they can be. I've seen plenty of them with fucking qt af gfs and these guys usually have a very warm and bubbly presence. Robots moan about women being shallow creatures but really all they want is someone who makes them secure and laugh. And yah of course they are more physically attracted to fit bois but that is just basic fucking human attraction.

then dont lie about that, some fat guys are able to get girls, but Idk I dont hate women I just dont have the money.

I wanted to die because all my family is ungrateful for the shit I did for them. I obeyed everything my parents told me and kept my life in moderation, and for what, getting spit on by people from my highschool? Getting rejected in all the cliques? Have my homeroom teacher make fun of me? My parents both tried to have me shot by the police and my dad even tried to rid me, just because I stayes out of trouble and tried so hard to finish my courses on time? Thats why I attempted to die, my east asian parents fucking suck.

Honestly, i wish i looked like you m8. Any yea i have given up