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How do I raise my daughter's so that they won't dress like this?
Brayden Collins
Thomas Phillips
From what I understand, the more you try and force them to not wear/do certain things, the more later in life they will want to do them. Heavy handed parents lead to sluts later in life
Lincoln Cooper
Why the fuck does human psychology do this?
John Bennett
Don't know man. Just is. If someone tells you "don't press that button" your gonna want to press it. I guess it's the same principle, but applied to life choices
Nathaniel Rivera
Seems would have weeded people like that out. Must be a good trait to have, disobedience that is. It makes sense.
Kevin Stewart
>Why the fuck does human psychology do this?
Rebelling against parents
Jaxson Mitchell
But what is the purpose of it?
James Thompson
>But what is the purpose of it?
Just to rebel against their rules.
Ethan Foster
There are basically two ways how to parent:
>force style
Brush your teeth! *slap*
Do your homework!
Dont dress like whore!
Dont take drugs!
>reason style
If you wont brush your teeth, they will rot. You will end up as *googles rotted teeth pics*.
If you wont do well in school, for the rest of your life you will work some terrible job.
Sure go dressed like that, but dont call me when druntards will rape you on your way home.
Weed? Pfft, back in my days we did amphetamines. Did i mention how one of my classmates overdosed and died?
You get the idea. Ultimately it is their life, their choices, their consequences. Let them choose, but try to make the decision informed one.
Julian Cooper
Psychologically speaking, abstinence based sexual education doesn't work. Data has shown that as attitudes concerning casual sex and sexual identity have become more diverse and accepting, teen pregnancy rates and average number of sex partners has decreased. This most current generation is statistically the least promiscuous generation since the 1920's. Abstinence based sexual education is what lead to the sexual revolution in the 1960's. Along with it came unprecedented rates of teen pregnancy, and the spread of STDs.
Here is what I will say; there isn't much you can do to prevent your daughter from ever dressing in such an outfit that won't directly contribute to rebellious behavior. Studies have shown that children who are, to an extent, allowed certain rebellious behaviors are less likely in the future to adopt them as permanent lifestyles. What I'm saying is that allowing your kid to wear a spiked bracelet for a few weeks until they grow out of it is a more effective way of encouraging them to get rid of it than prohibiting them from wearing it. Anecdotally speaking, children seek attention. Giving them constant attention in the form of negative reinforcement will have uncontrollable consequences.
I guess my point is there isn't anything you can do about your adult daughter's wardrobe but if you have open, honest conversations about sexuality, promote self esteem, provide her with plenty of healthy intimacy, emotional support and basic safe sex principals she will, at the very least, avoid the kind of behaviors you associate with wearing an outfit like this. You're going to have to compromise. Rebellion and experimentation (to an extent) is an essential building block in raising a well-adjusted child.
Chase Rivera
The statistics are skewed.
Girls are more promiscuous than ever, just because almost 80% of guys end up not getting any while 20% fuck them all, makes it look like in total this generation has less sex. It's just less people getting all the sexy times.
t. incel
Brandon Thompson
This. My parents always maintained that I could party and do drugs if I wanted (as long as I did well in school) and they even encouraged me to drink.
Needless to say, I am a straight edge shut in that's been to 3 parties in my entire life.
Jacob Myers
This concern is superficial and only a matter of taste. Your daughter’s actual personality should matter more than whether or not she wears tights. You can’t be insane enough to believe that a conservatively dressed woman can’t also be a handful or even a whore.
Charles Robinson
I don't want my daughter to wear tight clothes or be a whore :(
Lincoln Jackson
The statistics are not skewed. The concept you've proposed is not only an anecdotal hypothesis but it has no basis in objective fact. The results were based on data collected for nearly a century and published in peer-reviewed academic journal called the Archives of Sexual Behavior. Additionally, similar results were found in studies conducted in the UK and Wales, establishing the theory that these sexual trends are not exclusive to American culture. These studies in the UK and Wales found that not only do the children of the current generation have less sex partners on average than the past 3 generations but they are less likely to participate in other risky behaviors such as drugs and crime. This data is well represented across multiple platforms of study. The CDC itself has attributed the decrease in teen pregnancy and STD transmission to a decrease in female sexual activity. The greatest statistical minds and largest scientific bodies on the planets have all come to the same conclusion so if your assertion is that the statistics are wrong or skewed you're going to have to provide some pretty compelling evidence that you have more information than the CDC and the dozens of renowned psychologists and statisticians that both conducted and peer-reviewed the studies published in the Archive of Sexual Behavior.
Noah Lopez
Consider not having children until you greatly mature your priorities.
Nolan Martinez
1. Define ‘whore’ in concrete terms.
2. Learn what factors cause people to become whores.
3. Figure out a plan to prevent your daughter from encountering those factors.
For instance, having an emotionally unsupportive or abusive upbringing can lead to emotional problems and therefore difficultly maintaining romantic relationships. Another example, molestation at a young age can lead to hyper-sexuality.
Julian Gonzalez
This is 100% true, but women who dress promiscuously most likely do so to attract people sexually, like an unintentional "invitation"
Juan Morales
As a word of caution, I should also tell you that pop culture causes women to behave very promiscuously. Pop culture is very impulsive and nihilistic, so it encourages young people to abuse drugs and have meaningless sex.
Luke Richardson
LMAO look at this faggot advocating for more degeneration. Why don't you get your own daughter and let her dress up like a slut instead of telling others to do so?
Asher Walker
Not that guy, but did they actually establish causation between sex ed and the decreasing rates?
Because it's a pretty compelling proposition that overall rates have dropped not because of increased responsibility, but rather due to a decline of socialization..
Oliver Harris
I think calling the girl in the OP a whore is jumping to conclusions, though. We only know from the picture that she wore tights and a weave at least once. Most black women have worn those things, especially if they grew up away from European standards of what’s considered immodest. I’m also pretty sure that the picture wouldn’t have alarmed anyone if she had small breasts.
Brandon Gutierrez
No she's exactly what she looks like. I sat behind her in class and I'd sometimes see her thong. Also she always wore spandex clothes to show off her ass and tits. She's pretty ghetto too lol. Imagine a Black chick with an English accent calling you a nigga.
Brandon Nguyen
Exactly, it’s her actions that prove what kind of person she is, nigga.
Jaxon Hughes
don't mate with a negress
Dylan Reed
But she's just one of the many girls I've seen dress like that. You can't tell me these younger chicks don't want to show off as much of their skin and curves as legally possible.
Gavin Reed
I don't like the choker aspect of her dress, but the rest of her fashion sense doesn't seem to progressive to me??
Although, on the most part I understand (and agree) that the new generation of young girls are wearing clothes which are overly sexualised to the point of showing body parts every moment, which even at the height of society was in bad taste.
Sebastian Ross
>Not that guy, but did they actually establish causation between sex ed and the decreasing rates?
This specific study aside there have been tons and tons of case studies in different parts of America in which defunding sexual education and community resources like Planned Parenthood have been directly linked to increases in STDs and teen pregnancy. Also keep in mind that this isn't a sudden decline. The study found a direct link between the average number of sexual partners and attitudes concerning casual sex. These two factors have followed the same trend for nearly 80 years. Now, admittedly there is a lot of room to poke holes in a theory that is based on self-reporting and variables like teen pregnancy and STDs but on its face its the most compelling data we have.
That isn't what the data has shown.
Strawmen abound. I'd rather have a daughter that dresses in yoga pants every once and awhile but practices common sense chastity and has decent self-esteem than a daughter who dresses in head to foot colonial garb but secretly wears leather underwear and blows truckers on the weekends. This is the reality of your backwards mindset.
Jacob Cruz
You right. I’m the user who pointed out pop culture is encouraging young people to have meaningless sex and abuse drugs. Then it tells them at 27 they’d better hurry up and get engaged, so they can have a $50,000 marriage and reproduce.
Nolan Sullivan
Also, heavy drinking at all or moderate drinking for a long period of time is abusing drugs.
Nolan King
Why do you think women absolutely have to show off some part of their body? Is it for your own pleasure?
Tyler Jenkins
evolutionary psychology says yes, you met00 faget
Kevin Hernandez
So women will hate you if you don't allow them to show off their ass and tits to others?
Jordan Howard
That's a tough one. They want to, but I could easily see them finding that kind of controlling behavior somehow attractive. Whamen are weird.
Gabriel Jenkins
It's pretty terrible to teach girls that if they are rsped it is their fault. Most rapes are from people they already know and trust, and they are wearing everyday clothes.
Raising them as you did would make them have low enough self esteem to get into abusive relationships and not even ask you for help for anything all because of your misogyny.
Elijah Sanchez
I'm not going to pretend to understand or assume the motivation of an individual deciding to wear a particular piece of clothing. All anyone can do is speculate as to the reasons people wear the things they do. From a personal perspective as a male sometimes I wear things because I think a certain part of my body looks good and sometimes I wear things for utilitarian purposes. It really depends. Self-esteem is a complicated thing and you'd really have to analyze it on a case by case basis to determine whether or not their clothing decisions are empty vanity or not.
The only thing I know for certain is the quantifiable effects of forcing chastity based principals onto a child instead of giving them the tools to come to that conclusion on their own. Completely prohibiting a child from exploring their own sexual identity will result in unchecked hypersexualism later down the road. That's just the reality. If you attempt to regulate a child's sexual identity for them by the time they leave your house they won't know how to regulate it themselves.
Jacob Cook
>dont allow
yes, naturally, frogscum
Ethan Perez
Shut the fuck up you giant faggot. If I catch my kid jerking it to trannies is that him 'exploring his sexuality'?
Elijah Cook
yes
Mason Scott
Because most young kids see their parents as perfect, and then the illusion shatters and they stop trusting them.
I went through a promiscuous phase in highschool because my mother divorced my mentally ill father and right away shacked up with some other guy. I hated her for it but also for some reason received the message that the most important thing in life was "Finding the one".
People think the way to parent is to say no regarding things or punishment or whatever, but your kids learn the most from examples. If you're a father and drill into your daughters head to not be a slut, then she finds all your porn with women dressed in 12 inch heels and fucking 6 different dudes, they retain that. If you alienate them and tell them sex is awful yet you have sex with your wife, all they will do is learn that you aren't some one they can talk about sex to. Meaning when they're thinking about having sex with a guy simply to get them to like them, they can't express that to you and you can't tell her that she's worth more.
There's those adorable videos of fathers taking their 7 year old daughters on their "first date," and I think that teaches a daughter to not be a slut. She sees how she should be treated, doors held open ect.
The opposite effect is when I was a kid, my father never took my mother on dates or surprised her.
Liam Foster
Boohoo cry more you dumb gash. Still not letting my daughter dress up like a slut.
Hunter King
What a vapid reply. I was literally telling you how to make that happen which is by not making awful life decisions or just by being a dick about your beliefs. You shouldn't procreate if you people and life as black and white.
David Sanchez
>If I catch my kid jerking it to trannies is that him 'exploring his sexuality'?
Yes, it is, and by yelling at him, shaming him and punishing him you will ensure that his sexuality is indelibly linked to that shame. If you have a genuine concern about his orientation then the way to get him to have a healthy sex life free of compulsions or high risk behaviors is to have an open, honest conversation with him about his orientation. If he's attracted to transsexuals then that is what he is. You're not going to change that by being an asshole. You're an incredible child and you need to grow up. Please don't procreate.
Lincoln Long
>gash
>not letting
the irony is someone like you is way more liable to have a slutty daughter because you’re too stupid to use logic and understand how other people’s minds work.
if you have a sincere motivation to have your daughter be well adjusted and aren’t just a hateful scumbag who doesn’t deserve to reproduce, see but you aren’t actually concerned about anyone, not even yourself seeing how you’re willing to blow your own time. you’re just here looking to spit bullshit at anons so that your stupid monkey brain feels big.
Matthew King
Trannies aren't a part of natural sexuality dumbass. You're kid is literally jerking off to a man pretending to be a woman. But you'll still somehow find a way to say that that is alright, won't you?
James Anderson
Literally take a human sexuality class in college. Trannies are considered a part of natural sexuality.
Isaiah Wilson
>Women have to dress like sluts guys, otherwise they'll go insane the post.
Grayson Hill
>poor reading comprehension and zero life experience, the post.
Zachary Anderson
>college
Was it liberal arts sweety? Did you major in gender studies as well? Why am I asking, of course you did.
Josiah Gonzalez
your idea of “natural sexuality” is probably a nonsensical bunch of layman’s Evolutionary Psychology themed brainletisms that would need to be falsely packaged if you wanted to sell it for three cents.
it was instilled in you by a Christian culture so ashamed of sex that (the following assumes you’re American) they would collectively rather cut off their children’s foreskins than sack up and clean the damned things.
John Walker
>Trannies aren't a part of natural sexuality dumbass
You're a moron. Not only are you using a tired old "appeal to nature" fallacy but you aren't even doing it correctly.
>But you'll still somehow find a way to say that that is alright, won't you?
No one needs to validate their sexual preferences to you or anybody, user. I wouldn't require it of my son. If that was his thing then I wouldn't shame him for it. Of course I want him to get married and have children and a family and have meaningful, committed relationships but if the worst I have to accept about him is that he occasionally masturbates to trans porn then I don't see what the issue is.
Daniel Myers
So my daughter's will become broken whores and sluts if I try to keep them from being broken whores and sluts?
Jaxon Carter
if you hate women so much you should just abort it if it’s female. better yet, kill yourself right now.
Jordan Allen
I'm actually majoring in psychology to be a children's therapist. Human sexuality is one of the required psychology courses for a psych degree.
Also psych says that masturbating happens at young as in the crib and is normal and healthy and shaming it causes children to form a really unhealthy relationship with sex and their body. In example, the young boy who is screamed at by their mother for discovering porn is more likely to fear and hate women and have poor self esteem.
Josiah Bailey
why are you asking questions if you aren’t willing to receive the responses. the plain-as-day answer to your questions is here
but you doofuses are really just here to argue like I said in
Owen Evans
ITT
Why we don't want daughters.
Colton Morris
go eat soot
Caleb Lee
If you cause your daughter to feel shame for wanting relationships and sex, they'll probably become whores because they will naturally want these things and think
>i want a boyfriend and am having sexual urges
>but dad said only worthless whores feel that way
>and if I'm feeling that, I must be one
>therefore, fuck everything, dad thinks I'm a terrible person, why would I even listen to him
Or
>might as well dress like a whore because dad said that's what I am.
Ryan White
No you.
Ethan Brown
Raise a child with self-esteem, a healthy intimacy, love and affection and they won't seek validation through sex. Raise a child who discovered their sexual identity in secret and shame, who never had an adult to talk to them and help put their sexual feelings into context, who didn't receive support and guidance from their parents and wasn't shown what healthy relationships looked like through example and they will seek validation through sex. Raise a kid like shit and teach them that they should be ashamed of their sexuality and they will act out sexually. This concept could not be any simpler.
Mason Flores
why are you wasting your energy on worm people who are probably incel
Kevin Johnson
Or..or..or how about none of that happens and my daughter grows up to be a respectable woman who doesn't show her body off for the fuck of it?
Oliver Torres
This. My mom shamed my teenage relationships so hard and so I couldn't talk to her about them and that meant I couldn't have my mom point out when I was being used or mistreated.
Sebastian Kelly
Just
Magically?
Your daughter will just
Happen to be asexual because you willed it into the universe?
Your daughter will simply never ever
Want a good fucking
And never ever get curious?
Why would you have a kid if human nature is so disgusting and scary and appaling to you?
John Baker
she’ll at least get a more advanced education than you and know her dad’s an idiot, if you can ever reproduce. again, I know you hate using your brain to absorb knowledge, but it’s been stated throughout this thread what you can actually do to avoid your imaginary daughter becoming overly promiscuous.
Jack Green
>Mom couldn't point out when I was being used or mistreated
Were you too stupid to do it yourself?
Lucas Gutierrez
go kill an animal or something. the humans are talking
James Ross
>Or..or..or how about none of that happens and my daughter grows up to be a respectable woman who doesn't show her body off for the fuck of it?
Because that isn't how real life works. You don't get to do a shitty job parenting and then have your kid grow up functional and happy. Parenting is uncomfortable. It is full of compromise, shock, disappointment and most importantly the necessity to evolve. Watching your child make mistakes and be awkward and make less than informed decisions is a necessary part of good parenting. You can either fight against it tooth and nail and watch your child slowly distance themselves from you and never confide in you or adopt your ideals or you can learn to compromise and accept the fact that your kid will never be the 100% perfect person that you want them to be.
Nicholas Watson
Never said anything about asexuality. She can have boyfriends.
Where would she get that education?
Sebastian Rodriguez
I don't know if you know this but children typically need to be taught things before they know them.
Landon Reyes
>I want my daughter to be born with the information on how people work and the potiental manipulation that can happen to her
Kayden Harris
Not OP but I never understood that either. Why do women choose to be in abusive relationships. Are there minds programmed to be self destructive from the start?
Kayden Jackson
>I don't why, but the person I'm with seems to be causing me physical and emotional pain, guess I'll stay with them.
Juan Young
>women
we're talking about 15 year old girls with zero life experience who have spent their entire life with the idea drilled into their head that love is forever. When people like OP then tell those same girls that if they have sex they become a whore right off the bat, they then will be scared to leave an abusive relationship because "I already had sex with him. I can't go on to love some one else because i lost my virginity to him."
Owen Nguyen
just basic math and english and she’ll surpass you by 12, if not 8
Cameron Sanders
don't know*
Brayden Martin
>my significant other is hurting my feelings and then telling me I'm just over reacting, and I can't check with my parent if I am over reacting or not because they don't even like that I'm dating.
Camden Ward
But OP never said having sex makes them a whore. He just said he doesn't want them wearing a whores uniform.
Charles Martin
just stay in fucking Oberlin and enjoy your $180k debt and leave the kids alone, freakazoid.
Nolan Jackson
*their
men do too. this might not be readily apparent from within a life isolation and neetdom.
Lincoln Ortiz
So you're saying women aren't smart enough to realize they're that they shouldn't be around or with someone that causes them pain and adds nothing to their life. I'm shocked.
Luke Morris
>Men
>Getting abused by women
Maybe the weak basedish ones.
Michael Thompson
It's the parents job to teach their kid things.
That's like making fun of a 9 year old for still wearing diapers because you were too grossed out to potty train them. Your own kid.
Samuel Baker
not maybe. and yes if a woman is accepting abuse then she is also weak in that way.
Dylan Hall
Its fairly simple. Our parents are the first relationships we ever experience. The things we are exposed to in the first 6 to 12 years of our lives permanently shape the way we process these relationships. The events that take place during these years massively impact what type of people we become as adults. Its basic nature vs. nurture. It is biologically ingrained in us that we seek validation and approval from our parents. If a child is a raised in a household in which their parents (particularly women and their fathers) yell, abuse, abandon, mistreat or terrorize children grow up believing that chaos and abuse is how one expresses love. They spend their entire childhood trying to please this abusive, controlling paternal figure in their lives and earn their love and trust so as adults they tend to fall into the same patterns. The human mind has a tendency to recreate its greatest traumas. On a subconscious level, the mind of abused child tries to fix the trauma of the past by recreating it and controlling it in the future. If a woman can make an abusive partner happy and earn his love then it will again, subconsciously, "fix" the love she never earned from her abusive father. Women who choose to be in abusive relationships are almost 100% of the time from abusive homes. Women who were raised with love and affection and good relationships aren't attracted to and don't put up with abuse. It just doesn't happen. Children do what they are taught regardless of whether or not they're conscious of it. Teach them violence and abuse and that's what they do.
Owen Edwards
>refuses to talk to female child about sex or relationships or love in a healthy way
>expects them to just learn themselves
>they learn from the media
>acts surprised when they dress slutty
Owen King
We're not talking about 9 year olds though. Humans naturally shy away from pain, we don't have to be taught. Do women naturally go towards pain?
Luis Harris
You still didn't explain what causes them to stay with a person that causes them pain.
James Edwards
If you don't teach a kid what healthy relationships look like they don't know what it is. If you normalize pain, abuse and chaos to a child they'll grow up thinking there's nothing wrong with it. You have this idiotic assumption that difference between a child who knows whats good for their life and a child who doesn't is intelligence? That idea couldn't possibly be stupider. The difference is good parents. Relationships are infinitely more simple than good = good and bad = bad. What if my girlfriend hits me but says she's sorry? Should I forgive her? What if she never talks to me in public but is really affectionate in private? Is it good or bad that it bothers me? What if she says she loves me but gets mad at me whenever I want to do something without her? Does she really love me? How do I know for sure? Are you supposed to try to be your own person or do everything with your significant other? These are the questions kids ask. These are the answers they don't have. Being a child and going through puberty and these waves of hormones and new feelings is incredibly stressful and confusing. They need guidance. You're a fucking moron and you should avoid procreating at all costs.
William Harris
the pros of the relationship outweigh the cons in their perspective. a lot of them don’t cope very well with being single. they’re basically dysfunctional, so what they do doesn’t make good sense, and oftentimes they know it but don’t care.
Ryan Phillips
Never said my children couldn't talk to me about that stuff. Literally I've said is that I don't want my daughter's to wear the uniform of whore. I'll gladly explain it to them when they reach that age.
Nathan Hernandez
Pain is not a black and white concept. Pain can be associated with both good and bad things. Studying for 4 hours a night can be painful but we teach children that its for a good purpose. Exercising and striving to be a great athlete can be physically painful but we tell our child that hard work can pay off. Even as parents we sometimes lose our patience with children. We yell at them or even hit them but we come back and apologize and tell them we made a mistake. Even though the experience was painful for them they learn about compromise and forgiveness and still love us. It is no different when it is with a significant other.
For the last fucking time; if you normalize a child to pain they won't find anything wrong with it. If you expose a child to violence every day of their lives they probably won't flinch when they see it in adulthood. They won't just inherently KNOW it was wrong because the part of their brain that recognizes and reacts to such events was burned out as a child by the experiences they went through. If you treat your child like shit they will permanently believe that this is how people are supposed to treat each other. If you provide for your child and shelter your child but also kick the shit out of them every day THEY WILL THINK THAT THIS IS HOW THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE THEM AND TAKE CARE OF THEM ARE SUPPOSED TO ACT. You dumb fuckers need to take a psychology class asap.
Grayson Jones
read
and several other replies in this thread.
You walk around the house calling all women sluts, don't be surprised when your daughter dates a guy that calls her a slut and other mean names when they argue. You disregard your child's legitimate feelings and refuse to talk to them about them in a healthy way, don't be surprised when they date some one who does the exact same.
Lincoln Gutierrez
Like I said, you're a moron. None of your ideas or assertions are based in reality. If you're an asshole your children won't talk to you about stuff. She'll avoid you at all costs. Waiting until its convenient for you to speak to them about their sexuality and what it means will also result in disaster. Please don't procreate.
Dominic Barnes
This. You bring a kid up in this environment, they adapt because they think that's the world.
Levi Watson
I'm going to procreate just because you told me not too. Calling my gf over right now.
Blake Sanchez
>This most current generation is statistically the least promiscuous generation since the 1920's.
This data is incorrect
Nolan Hughes
while you're talking out of your ass and making baseless claims, here are some citations that support what
said
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Elijah Sullivan
T. The virgin, who then tabs back over to r9k
Grayson Cox
Post proof
Conjecture is not proof