>be 24 y/o kissless virgin aspie >been alone most of my life >one of my painful memories were my experience with women and my low esteem issues with people >decide to try to fond of my loneliness and I can't force it anyhow on anyone >slowly believe that people (men and women) are just selfish, degenerate, manipulative, passive aggressive, and fickle beings >I'd get people either in my circle or family ask why I have not found anyone yet >grunt or passive reactions every time
I'm not saying I'm above anyone else, but most people are just annoying to me. I would like to have meaningful conversation and connections with people, but I'd always have to keep my guard up. Because of me being socially awkward and a virgin it prevents me from having better connections with people. How am I supposed to fit in, Jow Forums?
>slowly believe that people (men and women) are just selfish, degenerate, manipulative, passive aggressive, and fickle beings
Jose Perez
Are you like that yourself?
Chase Hughes
Not that I have much advice but I'm right there with you, same situation, same age and all that but I'll tell you from my own experience dating, your assumptions of people are correct and you're not missing much. I've been single for most of my life even though I try to date a fair amount. It's just almost always a depressing experience. I either feel like I don't mesh well with "normal" people since my interests aren't in mainstream media culture or that the people I meet are so self centered they can't comprehend a real relationship. Last girl I went out with who I thought I had really good conversation with (2 dates that lasted 3+ hours of just talking), completely stopped replying a couple days after our last date. The girl before that was clingy but got mad every time I didn't pay 100% of my attention to her and accused me of talking to other people. My only real "girlfriend" I've had only lasted a few months and it ended because I, again, didn't give her the attention she felt entitled to. I could go on with a lot of different types I've dated but it usually ends up being that if they can't change me to be what they want, it doesn't work out.
I'm not mgtow bullshit either, the only thing I've ever wanted is a close partner I could talk about everything with and grow through life together but I've never found a girl who even remotely wanted that. As you said; selfish, degenerate, manipulative, passive aggressive, and fickle. It goes for both sexes but it tends to piss me off more in women because I can't stand the pussywhipped faggots that make women think it's okay to act like a cunt and still demand to be treated like a princess.
>I've been single for most of my life even though I try to date a fair amount. It's just almost always a depressing experience. I either feel like I don't mesh well with "normal" people since my interests aren't in mainstream media culture or that the people I meet are so self centered they can't comprehend a real relationship.
Sour grapes.
Sebastian Young
Yeah no shit, fuckhead, I literally said the only thing I've ever really wanted is a close intimate relationship with someone, did you not read the rest of the post?
Christian Johnson
So you admit it's not true, people are not awful, you are just salty?
Justin Ross
If you actually read the OP I've stated I'm not above anyone else. "No u" argument isn't helping me here
Isaiah Jenkins
So, you think of yourself as a bad person, just like everyone else?
Why are you a bad person?
Adrian Rodriguez
I'm too inexperienced, timid, and lack motivation. Me feeling that way doesn't remove from what I feel about people. is pretty close to how my Dating experience is like. Women will do/say one thing then do the complete opposite making me look like the idiot.
Levi Brown
>I'm too inexperienced, timid, and lack motivation.
I asked if you see yourself as:
>selfish, degenerate, manipulative, passive aggressive, and (a) fickle being
Do you or not?
Levi Lopez
But where are you getting at when I already say I'm not above anyone else?
Mason Adams
I want to know if you see yourself as a degenerate and manipulative person. And then I'd like to know why you act that way.
Gavin Brown
Correct. In part we all are.
But that doesn't help you, now does it? Just be nice and you will find those traits in people as well.
William Ortiz
But that's not getting anywhere to an actual solution to my problems.
Luis Long
Oh, it is getting somewhere. You just need to reply. Why do you avoid the question instead of giving a straight answer?
Matthew Williams
As your new personal coach i advice you this:
Listen to cheer up music. That is Dur not Moll !!
Train a bit to get the hard neck that holds your head up.
And try to talk and write your thoughts down. It´s best to think much before you have to talk. Cause you then have a capital to spend in conversations. And read something too.
Your problem is that you are not honest. Either you are a bad person like everyone else and CHOOSE to be, or you think of yourself as better than everyone else.
You can't improve or receive help if you are not honest.
Hunter Barnes
>Just be nice and you will find those traits in people as well
But being nice doesn't work with people all the time. Some will bother you or completely screw you over for no reason at all. I don't know why I should bother
Josiah Cook
>Your problem is that you are not honest. Nope.
>Either you are a bad person like everyone else and CHOOSE to be, or you think of yourself as better than everyone else. I've stated before that I'm not above anyone else.
Isaiah Powell
>I've stated before that I'm not above anyone else.
Then please, explain to me why you act like an asshole just like them. Also, why would a woman want to date an asshole like you?
Noah Rogers
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Henry Jones
You are the one that said people are crap and that you are no better than them. I didn't make anything up.
Juan Rodriguez
I´m not OP
Jordan Hughes
Very helpful sucker
Damn 4 chan retard drones.
This is just what the OP thought of people bing passiv aggressiv. You are sitting there and are waiting to annoy on accident.
You have self-image issues. And you compensate by putting everybody else down. Until you face that, you can't start engaging with people in a more healthy manner.
Kayden James
Yet you say I'm an asshole (with no actual proof besides your own opinion) and no woman should date me despite being just as bad themselves. I'm asking what is the point of trying to pursue relationships/friendship if I cant get through these negative traits in people? Again, I'm not saying I don't have those traits as well. I'm saying with that knowledge, what is the point of me trying when I'm always left out and alone
Dylan Wood
>what is the point of me trying when I'm always left out and alone
Sorry, what's the problem? Being alone or having to deal with other people?
Because people date. They have friends. They hang out. Even if they are crap, people enjoy each other. Yet they don't enjoy you, right? Because you are alone even when you try not to be.
Juan Ward
He's alone because he's a self-made victim and he blames his shit on others I might not be Chad Thundercock but I've certainly managed to get a place in life by not shitting on everyone around me, and by accepting that a lot about my world is my doing
Joshua Lopez
You're clearly deciding not to get what I mean. I'm an aspie that cant function with people. Even I actually TRY , I don't get better outcomes.
Samuel Harris
>Even I actually TRY , I don't get better outcomes.
But why? And if it has nothing to de with how shitty you and other people are, why even bring that up?
You said a lot of stuff but you are not asking the real questions.
>How am I supposed to fit in, Jow Forums?
Do you even think you can fit in, then? If you are so messed up, how can we make you fit in?
Jose Robinson
>urrrr durrrr i took one psychology class and learned about projection, everyone's problems must be projection! Fuck off retard with your armchair diagnosis, you are literally proving the OP right by being a condescending dickhead, if anyone's projecting, it's you for acting high and mighty on a mongolian knitting forum. OP's problem is boiled down to normies being shit and most women being normies because they get validation from it. We live in a perpetual cycle of whorish behaviour being rewarded and thus the types of men who are willing to put up with whorish, narcissistic behaviour are players who care nothing for real relationships or beta faggots that are so desperate they don't mind lapping up Chad's cum if it means they can get a little pussy. The only way shit will change is if whorish behaviour is no longer rewarded through superficial validation. There are a small minority of women who care nothing for social media but they're either taken already or are so fucked up themselves from how little of a shit they give about anything that you're probably worse off going after them than you would a used up Stacy.
This shit isn't an issue that can be so neatly summed up with "ur just projecting!!"
I never said projecting, you went on a whole rant about something I didn't say.
Calling other people crap to feel better is not projection. It's just trying to lift yourself up by putting others down. It's pretty common, but it's not useful.
Ethan Lopez
Therapists exist for you folk for a reason. It's unfortunate but everyone does what they have to do. I need to get to a therapist when I've got the jingling coins to do it, because I still have a ton of things to work through.
I know that shit sucks for you but taking an attitude won't help and you really aren't taking what people call an initiative when you post on Jow Forums. Jow Forums is, at its very, absolute sterling best, a toxic hugbox echo chamber based on hating women, branding people and denying accountability to one's own problems. At its worst, it's the cause of all the internet's problems because somehow, people though that unregulated toxicity was somehow totes bueno, and wouldn't have a chain reaction leading up, eventually, to social justice warriors. Granted, none of us could have foreseen the exact results; I think it would take a special kind of idiot to think it was beneficial, helpful or a good thing, though.
Anyway, you need to get off Jow Forums, get to therapy. Even if you're just out and about sort of people watching or walking around, that's better than being on Jow Forums. It's an aggressive, bad place full of jilted advice and shitty opinions.
Therapy might not be a whole head better if you're in the US of A, but there's a chance it will be and you kind of have to pursue that because as you've just written to us, there's really not a lot you can be tasked to do on your own-- we're asking you to do hands-on work, but you've got four feet sorta thing. I think you need to relinquish your attachment to the advice of random people; it's not going to help you. You have fucking Asperger's Syndrome, not a goddamn stubbed toe or wounded piercing or your girlfriend sucking off another guy. You have a mental condition that's very serious and very complex and there is just simply no way any of us can be prepared for the required nuance.
Sorry, man.
Eli Myers
>But why? >Do you even think you can fit in, then? But thats exactly what I'm asking but you're so easily offended and turning this into a "no u" argument. Dealing with people is my problem and I always end up alone.
In my own personal experience, I've been the one that's been put down by people. My thoughts are based on my experiences
Luke Young
youre a faggot
this but also this
OP try reading how to win friends and influence people/the 48 laws of power. dr. nerdlove has some decent articles on dating too if you can get past his left-leaning politics
Carson Perry
>try reading a self-help book lol!
You were doing so good, too He's got a fucking mental disorder, not a small behavioral quirk. Take your fucking Carnegie shilling and suck a dick, not everyone is won over by Cosmopolitan. OP needs help, not to buy shitty books that give housewives a reason to live again
Colton Butler
what's so bad about how to win friends? i found it helpful
>you were doing so good lol i wrote like three words
Jonathan Thomas
You didn't have to say it, your whole point has been nothing but >u say everyone else is mean and shitty but did u ever think UR mean and shitty????? That's literally you're only point, disliking or calling attention to something you yourself do is projection and it's a very basic facebook psychology "answer" to everyone's problems.
