what's the point of working at a job if you only make $200 a month?
What's the point of working at a job if you only make $200 a month?
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That's $200 more than you would have if you didn't work. I assume that you're not working a whole lot of hours to make this amount. You can always look for different work.
>whats the point of making money
As opposed to not making money? That's 200 bucks you didn't have before. If you need more, try getting more hours. Maybe a new job, or even a second job
50 hours a week, isn't that more than most people in the west with 40 hour work weeks? anyways, your hours don't matter, you get paid by the month
other jobs pay less, usually around $150, the best opportunity i've found paid $300 a month
they don't pay you by the hours here, you get paid by the month
>second job
would you work 100 hours a week for $400 every month?
What the fuck kind of shitty job is that? Are you in the US?
where the fuck do you live and how do you have internet?
why do you only make $200 a month?
actually it's not a shitty job at all here, it's a college degree required-tier job at a multinational corporation as a call center representative since fluent english speakers are very rare here that's why they offered to pay me so much (up to $350), i remember applying for a job as the head of the marketing department at a company and they wanted to pay $300
the highest salary i've ever seen someone make was $550-600 a month and it was the chief editor for a newspaper and magazine
no i'm not in the usa
egypt, everyone here has internet, government recently installed fiber optic cables everywhere, but i don't have the infrastructure in my area so i have to use 3G mobile broadband on a USB dongle with limited data allowance
well most normal jobs like cashier waiter etc pay $150-160 a month, i suppose because of my english i'm paid a little higher
i'm not an economist but i can try and speculate why, basically it's because the local currency is 18 times less valuable than the us dollar and top officials in the government and military pocket most of the country's GDP and income from the suez canal to fund their extravagant lifestyles abroad (most don't even live in their own country for obvious reasons) and then of course world financial control like the IMF etc conducting elaborate economic proxy wars / racketeering / assassination by forcing the country into vast amounts of debt and making them accept multi-billion dollar "infrastructure" projects which they can't actually afford and usually never finish or pay off because the foreign companies that start them take them over for free at metaphorical gun point, and all that basically determines the price of living and commodities and such which in turn determines how much you get paid, eXcept for rent, because ironically rent for a 1 bedroom apartment is usually more than people's entire salaries, and it's a nation-wide mystery as to how people even afford rent let alone good food
where are you from?
>head of marketing for 300$ a month
yeah right, i would make around 5k a month as the head of a marketing company in germany
oh, that's nice, i don't live in germany though
lawyers and doctors usually make $1,000-$2,000 a month, sometimes a little more but you have to have your own office / clinic to make that money and have a rpeutation
the highest paid doctor i saw made $3,000 a month, he was a top-performing anesthesiologist at a private hospital
public hospital doctors make next to nothing: "In general, a doctor in a public Egyptian hospital earns around 1,500 Egyptian pounds ($78) per month from the Ministry of Health, while another in a private hospital might earn 3,000 ($157). While salaries vary according to specialization and experience, the highest paid doctors in Egypt work in private clinics"
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wait you work 50 hours a week and only get 200 a month? are you an illegal immigrant or some shit?
Start shopping your resume to other countries. You can find other work in another locale that pays far more than what you receive now. I would say start a business, but Egypt is not a good place for stability or entrepreneurship.
>egypt
Are you saying you make 200 us dollars or 200 Egyptian pounds? 200 us dollars is like 3500 eqyptian pounds.
no, it's a normal salary for the country i'm in
and no i stopped working a long time ago but i used to work 85 hours a week and made $300 a month, i don't see the point in working at all for pennies every month
nobody can afford to pay you anything if you start a business, they are too busy working 12-14 hours a day for less than a dollar an hour and going to their concrete commie block things and eating pita bread made for 10 cents and canned fava beans
200 us dollars, i stopped working a long time ago though and yeah it's like 3500 egyptian pounds
Move. You can make far more in another country.
which country?
Because the cost of life is much lower.
I live in Europe, I make around 1300€/month after taxes, but
>rent + all bills for my flat is 500€/month
>phone bill is 8€ with 50 GB of data and as much phone calls as I want
>I move by public transport and bike a lot, spend maybe 70€/month on gas and car insurance
>no health insurance or anything else
>40€/week for food
Couldn't probably live as with that amount of money in the US or a more expensive place in Europe.
yeah 200 a month is rough, you could get a CHEAP shitty hooker hotel for a week around here for like 159 during off season, then use the 41$
spend 10$ a week to eat like dollar menu.
You probably could live an okay enough life with that money - if salaries are that low, food probably doesn't cost much, and so does rent and such, etc.
Sure, it isn't peachy, but hey.
UAE. You will probably make a lot more money there.
Yeah, and then spend it all on crazy high rent, utilities, etc.
UAE has a crazy high cost of living, higher than the US.
It would be easier to make contacts there to move to another country afterwards than languishing in Egypt. UAE is a financial center, I don't know what Egypt has going for it other than it being Egypt.
the only reason i can see why you would work is to buy drugs, but i don't like drugs, i do like alcohol though, so the only reason to work is to buy alcohol i guess
hmm, 40GB of data is €30, i don't have any friends so i don't have to call anyone but 150 minutes is €7, rent + bills for a flat is around €300, there is no public transport but microbuses and taxis which is what most people use since gas and a car is too expensive would cost around €20-30 a month, food is around €30 a week but if you just want to eat pita bread bean paste and eggs then you can spend like €15
it's nigh impossible to get into the UAE let alone get a job, they hate foreigners
most of the people they bring over are from asian countries like the philippines bangladesh india etc, they don't take in people from egypt
also what said, the cost of living is insane
They have a visa centre in cairo. They obviously have a demand for labor that Egyptians can fill.
yeah, a few months ago someone recommended me to try and get a job there, i spent like 5 weeks applying to all the jobs i could find on the internet with my c.v and followed up with them, they either never replied or said that they weren't looking for anyone which is ironic because they posted job ads, thousands of people seem to apply for just 1 of the positions they post though trying to get a visa, so that's probably why they say they're not looking, i feel like they only accept female filipinos because i read somewhere that they use them for sexual favors
The answer to your question, in your situation, is basically no. But if you manage to get some sort of income from outside or some business going that makes as little as 500 a month, I guess you'd be high class.
If you had like 10k US, could you buy some land, build a house, and then sell it for like 15k or so in about 6 months? I mean, do this numbers check out where you are?
I guess you live with your parents, how big is the house you live in?
meant for OP
I would class alcohol as a drug to some individuals
>what's the point of working at a job if you only make $200 a month?
Work experience and money coming in. I'm presuming you're in education/are young and have no previous work experience. Having work experience can help you get a job even if your next job/career isn't relevant to what you do, having any proof that you don't spend your time sat on your arse doing fuck all waiting for a job looks much better.
Depends on the cost of living where you are
Fucking nothing in the US but a hell of a boon in other places
yeah that was me i just converted all the prices to euros for the user that listed his price in euros, it would take around 5 years saving every penny i made to save up $10k usd
anyways nobody would buy land i bought, people can't afford these things here the economy is frozen, there is no moving economy like in the usa, if you buy something, it becomes worth less, nothing appreciates here it always depreciates because of the currency, for example i knew a rich family that bought a $1m custom designed villa with land and had to sell it for $100,000 in 2 parts of $50,000 and they lost $5,000 on legal fees because the person didn't want to pay half of the other amount, in the end they only ended up getting $75,000
investing in anything in this country will not pay off
>how big is the house you live in?
around 800sqft
it technically is a drug i guess, but i mean it's not socially considered to be a drug, and by socially i mean in the west and overall, here it's extremely taboo and haram but i mean globally alcohol isn't seen or recognized as a drug, usually drugs are seen as potent illegal drugs like cocaine heroin weed etc
i already have work experience, around 2 and a half years of work experience, not in education, dropped out of high school because parents couldn't afford it
hmm, i don't see what that's supposed to get you here, a 1 liter bottle of vodka, some coke, some snacks etc will cost you around $20, a pack of some good imported smuggled cigarettes are $4, not sure what else you could get apart from drugs which i don't like
a session with a prostitute costs around $150, so the only real reason i can see working would be to smoke, and have sex with a prostitute and get a liter of vodka once a month, but sex doesn't give me any pleasure for some reason...so...it would just be to be able to afford a hedonistic consumption of cigarettes and alcohol
What is paying for your living expenses, if you aren't working?
my parents
If you are CS apply for a job in Canada.
How much are your living expenses, and how are you going to pay for them when your parents die or if they get tired of supporting a leech?
i tried learning programming but it's not my talent, canada usually takes indians they dominate the tech scene anyway
currently 0, the only thing that i consume or use any money for at all that isn't the food or water at home is 40 gigabytes of internet every month for $35
>how are you going to pay for them when your parents die or if they get tired of supporting a leech?
they won't stop letting me live with them because they know that it is literally impossible to live on your own if you weren't secured in their generation, it is perfectly normal for people to live with their parents or entire families until they're 35-40+ here
if they die i'm basically fucked because we don't own anything and they will leave me behind with absolutely nothing maybe a few hundred or thousand or so dollars, i guess i could move in with one of their friends but i'd probably just use the little money i have to get a gun on the black market and kill myself since it's impossible to live on your own now
I pray for you, Ramesses. You can do it. You just gotta keep trying. Don't give up Ramesses I believe in you!
>I pray for you
which god of which interpretation of which version of which religion did you pray to?
>Ramesses
the ancient egyptians and coptic people were killed, they are all dead, their whole culture, tradition, religion language race bloodline genes and people have been completely wiped off the face of existence and replaced with arabs and islam after the mass muslim rape / invasion from arabia in i think around the year 600, but by then it was the romans / greek and europeans who had control of it, anyways they're all gone and dead now and the place has been turned into an islamic shithole, so it would be innacurate to call me ramesses probably just call me mohamed or ahmed something
>You can do it
do what?
>You just gotta keep trying
trying for what what is the end goal
>Don't give up
why not
>I believe in you!
thanks
None. Find a different job
the highest i've found was $335
$35 for internet aren't your living expenses, but I'm curious where that money is coming from since you don't have a job.
I guess be a do-nothing leech for the rest of your life until you can't and then kill yourself. Are you looking for other people to give you justification for that? I think it's bullshit, but you're gonna do what you're gonna do.
Call center jobs require only a hs diploma and pay 8 bucks an hour here. Your fucked.
it's coming from my savings from when i used to work 16-18 hours a day for $300 a month
>leech
why do you say i'm a leech? i didn't ask for my parents to have children in this overpopulated terrible world, i didn't ask to be born into an existence where it's impossible to live alone, i never chose to be alive, i was forced into being alive against my will
my parents knew it would be impossible for me to live on my own but yet they had me anyways, what is there to do?
in this country many people usually live with their whole families until they die, because that's how impossible it is to live alone
>to give you justification
not looking for other people to do anything for me, i don't put expectations on other people, anyways you say justification like i'm doing something wrong, what am i doing wrong? not working 16 hours a day for pennies every month? is that what i should be doing? if i do that, then will i automatically not become a "do nothing leech"? if i start working again all day will you become satisfied and happy? what will it take for me to let you feel as though i'm worthy of something, what is it you think i should do?
where is that? people make $8 in a whole day here if they're lucky, not an hour
>Your fucked
yeah i know
>which god of which interpretation of which version of which religion did you pray to?
Whichever god is your favorite my man.
> anyways they're all gone and dead now and the place has been turned into an islamic shithole, so it would be innacurate to call me ramesses probably just call me mohamed or ahmed something
Ok, Ahmed
>do what?
Any thing! Or at least get out of Egypt and make a living for yourself and not be forced to work sweatshop hours for a whole month than I earn in one day.
>trying for what what is the end goal
The end goal is to be happy. I can't tell you exactly how to reach that since everyone is different, but every person on this planet at one point has attempted to reach for their happiness
>why not
Because I almost gave up myself, and I don't want to see people in that same situation. There's no turning back from giving up. As long as even a tiny piece of you holds on, you can accomplish what you need to survive
>thanks
No problem Ahmed. People need someone to believe in them and I believe in you. The first opportunity you see, you get outta there!
>Whichever god is your favorite my man.
lol, i don't believe in any god
>Ok, Ahmed
heh
>Any thing!
like what, work for 16 hours for 300 bucks again?
>get out of Egypt and make a living for yourself and not be forced to work sweatshop hours for a whole month than I earn in one day.
ok, where should i go? how would i get out, where would i get the necessary money to get out, how would i get residency in said country? who would i stay with the moment i move there?
>The end goal is to be happy. I can't tell you exactly how to reach that since everyone is different, but every person on this planet at one point has attempted to reach for their happiness
oh...i don't know what makes me happy, nothing makes me really happy anymore, the only thing i like doing is browsing Jow Forums and youtube
>Because I almost gave up myself, and I don't want to see people in that same situation. There's no turning back from giving up. As long as even a tiny piece of you holds on, you can accomplish what you need to survive
well survival isn't even something you need to worry about ever since the west invented industrial agriculture and chemical preservation and packaging, and so as long as you have absolutely any source of any amount of income you can survive by eating already manufactured and readily available bread and drinking water for pennies, you don't even have to think about where you're going to get it from, you just go to one of the many wooden stalls on the street or supermarket
and if you get sick you just go to the pharmacy and get whatever medication you need for pennies as well, so anyone that's not in a rural village in western / central africa can survive, but you'd be sleeping on the streets and in a very uncomfortable state with no air conditioning and would have to use other establishments to go to the bathroom and take showers at a gym
>The first opportunity you see, you get outta there!
i haven't seen any opportunities, i don't think any will come
You're portraying your options as "don't make much but contribute" and "be a fucking leech", and you've decided that "be a leech" is best. Yes, your parents chose to have a child, and they choose to let that child live like a leech. There will at some point likely be a problem for you with that arrangement.
It may be impossible to live alone. So what's the solution to that? Multiple people group up and all contribute to living as a group. Except you're not willing to contribute, even though it clearly would be beneficial to the group.
And that actually answers the original question you asked, of what's the point of working for the small amount of money you can earn: to contribute to supporting yourself. Clearly the cost of living where you live is low enough where wages significantly less than what you were earning are enough to live.
So what's your problem? You don't have enough to be able to buy a bunch of shit that you don't actually need? So what? Humans have existed for thousands of years and got by just fine without whatever luxury items you apparently think you need to be able to buy to be happy.
And if you really want that shit, you should be working to find a way to move somewhere that you can get whatever the fuck it is that you think you need to have a fulfilling life.
Why are you paying $35 for internet anyway, if that's such a big expense? What are you doing with your internet connection that's so useful to your existence?
>You're portraying your options as "don't make much but contribute" and "be a fucking leech", and you've decided that "be a leech" is best. Yes, your parents chose to have a child, and they choose to let that child live like a leech. There will at some point likely be a problem for you with that arrangement.
here living with your parents is not seen as being a leech, it is perfectly normal, like i said people usually live with their parents until they're in their late 30s / early 40s and many just live with their families til they die, so according to you everyone is a leech? it's just seen as normal living here
>what's the solution to that?
there is no solution to that, that's why it's impossible
>you're not willing to contribute, even though it clearly would be beneficial to the group.
why have you assumed this? i still contribute with my savings but they deny my contributions out of pride because children giving money to their parents makes them seem weak and useless
>So what's your problem?
eh, my problem is with existence i guess, it seems pretty stupid and useless / boring, i have a problem with my parents for having children in this country and time against their better judgement when they perfectly knew what was going to happen but did it anyways
what is yours?
>You don't have enough to be able to buy a bunch of shit that you don't actually need?
nah i don't buy anything or want to buy anything
>whatever luxury items you apparently think you need to be able to buy to be happy.
when have i talked about luxury items or wanting to buy things though? i don't have or want any luxury items, i don't consume anything, i don't want to consume anything
>find a way to move somewhere that you can get whatever the fuck it is that you think you need to have a fulfilling life.
i don't really know what i think i need to have a fulfilling life
would you like me to illegally invade your country on a boat or something?
>Why are you paying $35 for internet anyway, if that's such a big expense?
where did i say it was a big expense
anyways i wouldn't have to pay for it if we lived somewhere with infrastructure and it would be much less than $35, so i pay for it because we don't have infrastructure here
>What are you doing with your internet connection that's so useful to your existence?
what do you mean? why are you using your internet connection? what are you doing with your internet connection that's useful to your existence?
i guess it's useful to my existence because it gives me something to do and helps me find people to talk to and it's entertaining, there's nothing really to do now other than use the internet
i'm doing the same thing you probably do with your internet connection i suppose
So, egyptanon,
what are your parents doing as a job job, and how much are they making ?
How do the other young people deal with similar conditions of living ?
Why don't you have any friends ?
Besides working, won't your problem with existence be solved with more social interactions, as they can be a source of happiness ?
How is the state of gf finding/marriage in your country ?
What are you interested in ? Which work would you like to do, if salary was not a problem ?
>here living with your parents is not seen as being a leech, it is perfectly normal, like i said people usually live with their parents until they're in their late 30s / early 40s and many just live with their families til they die, so according to you everyone is a leech?
Oh, and are all those children refusing to work and to take part in supporting themselves? That's normal? Living with other people isn't what makes you a leech. Refusing to take part in taking care of yourself makes you a leech.
Parents who don't accept money from their children usually do so because they're trying to give their children an opportunity to save and put themselves in a better financial situation. That's certainly not true for you.
I'm curious, what do your parents say about what you're doing?
>would you like me to illegally invade your country on a boat or something?
Not if you're going to refuse to support yourself and expect someone else to do it.
>where did i say [$35 a month] was a big expense
It's a relatively large proportion of the average monthly salary where you live. Almost half of what a doctor would make per month, yes? And about 20% of what you had as a monthly income.
My internet bill is less than 1% of my monthly income.
$200 more than you have now, faggot.
>what are your parents doing as a job job, and how much are they making ?
they don't have a job, you can't actually support a family with a job here, they secured a semi-functional business in the good old days with a private network of repeat clients that they've been using for decades
>How do the other young people deal with similar conditions of living ?
they don't, literally everyone in the entire country knows we are fucked, so they just live with it or find some way to cope usually with drugs in the form of painkillers, tramadol-laced high potency hashish and pure black opium powder called afyun, and of course smoking cigarettes
some drink as well but it's very rare because of the religious taboo so they stick to hashish painkillers cigarettes and opium powder
>Why don't you have any friends ?
because 99% of the population are dumb hurka durka muslims who are extremely out of touch with reality and i'm heavily westernized and they're not so we conflict on almost everything, the only thing the youth are interested in here is doing drugs smoking cigarettes watching porn together catcalling / harassing women on the street and looking at the same shitty facebook videos and arabic 9gag memes from 2009
>Besides working, won't your problem with existence be solved with more social interactions, as they can be a source of happiness ?
no, i'm an introvert, people drain the energy out of me, being alone makes me more happy than being with other people
>How is the state of gf finding/marriage in your country ?
if you want, i could go into depth because that's the only way you could understand, but basically impossible unless you were born somewhere where you were well off and your extended family had an extra cousin for you to marry (yes, seriously)
anyways, more than 90% of all women in the entire country have been genitally mutilated
>What are you interested in ?
browsing Jow Forums, shitposting, watching commentary and analysis and other youtube videos, philosophy, sociology, politics, business, economics
>Which work would you like to do, if salary was not a problem ?
i don't know, maybe an entrepreneur with multiple passive income based businesses and a youtube podcast host / analyst / commentator and an IRL twitch / youtube streamer
>Oh, and are all those children refusing to work and to take part in supporting themselves? That's normal?
i don't think you understand, you cannot support yourself here my man, the children don't refuse to work because they don't work because everyone knows it's useless for them to work, so yes it's very normal literally everyone lives with their parents / family, there are entire families living off of the contributions of people who got lucky and secured a business in the past or people that have found a way to flee the country / travelled and relocated in the past when times were good because everyone knows that it is impossible to support a family with just a job, you can't even pay rent with a job's salary
>Living with other people isn't what makes you a leech. Refusing to take part in taking care of yourself makes you a leech.
ok...i take care of myself i guess? i buy my own internet...my parents don't like it when i buy food because they see it as an attack on their pride, because it reminds them that they may actually need some help
>I'm curious, what do your parents say about what you're doing?
nothing, they don't care, because they already know that i'm only doing what everyone else is doing and what i can do, which is nothing or just work so i can buy some internet or something and have pocket money
literally nothing is expected of you until you're at least in your early 30s
>Not if you're going to refuse to support yourself and expect someone else to do it.
dude, how come you don't understand? nobody supports themselves here
>expect someone else to do it.
it is expected of every parent of every family to support their children until their 30s / 40s and it is expected of them to find them a wife to marry via arranged marriage and it is also expected of the whole extended family of both parties to raise money to help them move out because everyone knows how impossible it is to do this, you need like the combined forces of 30 people just to start a semi-independent life
but my parents cannot find me a wife and they're broke and so is everyone else so, that's probably not going to happen
again, like i said, many families live together forever, this is a collectivist society not an individualistic one, the concept of individualism and living by yourself or supporting yourself and being independent is not present and so therefore unattainable
if you were to come here and look at things through your lens, the entire country is parasitic and leech off eachother with various favors and such
>It's a relatively large proportion of the average monthly salary where you live. Almost half of what a doctor would make per month, yes? And about 20% of what you had as a monthly income.
yeah, but i used to work a lot like 2 jobs 16-18 hours a day for a few months and have like a thousand saved up so it's not much
heh...yeah
isn't that amazing
Sounds pretty shitty man. Anyway,
>they secured a semi-functional business
Could you work in the family business ? (or inherit it ?)
>you can't actually support a family with a job here
How do people deal with it ?
>literally everyone in the entire country knows we are fucked
could you elaborate ?
>99% of the population are dumb hurka durka muslims
Couldn't you hang out with the educated middle-class / rich persons kind of people ? The kind that goes to university and that kind of thing ? Or other who were westernised by similar means as yours ?
>people drain the energy out of me
Oh ok, so what make you happy ? Have you tried the crafty precise kind of activity, like drawing, bakery, or any trade like woodworking or plumbing ?
>i could go into depth because that's the only way you could understand
I'm always interested to learn, but does that mean that a lot of single girls/ polygamy in your country. Or are in one of those "let's abort girls" country with a fucked up m/f ratio ?
You didn't answer to
>What are you interested in ? Which work would you like to do, if salary was not a problem ?
You didn't answer to
>What are you interested in ? Which work would you like to do, if salary was not a problem ?
I guess you did. My bad.
>philosophy, sociology, politics, business, economics
Are there any library, or ways to learn about this in your neighborhood ?
>entrepreneur with multiple passive income based businesses and a youtube podcast host / analyst / commentator and an IRL twitch / youtube streamer
If you have so much free time on your hands, you can at least try right now the youtube / twitch part. I don't know if you have any chance to make a livable wage with it, but you have savings, and its probably better than doing nothing. I don't know much about passive incomes, but maybe you can do some of these to.
>more than 90% of all women in the entire country have been genitally mutilated
This seriously sucks, but if you talking about clit ablation, i think there is luckily other ways to please a woman like G-point stimulation and various erogenous zones. Look it up. You could also start a blog or something to advocate against this practice, but I think taht political activists in your country get eaily arrested, so it basically sucks, I guess.
>Could you work in the family business ? (or inherit it ?)
no, my father explicitly told me to my face that he does not want me to work for or inherit the family business because he says it's too dangerous and he doesn't want me to get hurt
anyways the things they do are between them it's a private network / group of old people and they do shady stuff, even if i jumped in the business now i would be of no use
>How do people deal with it ?
they don't, they cope with it usually with drugs like painkillers opium powder cigarettes and hashish, oh and they binge eat, i think the statistic was somewhere around more than 42% of all adults being overweight or obese
the suicide rate was so high that the government actually banned and prevented any more suicide statistics from even being recorded
>could you elaborate ?
well, things were so bad that the youth (my generation) staged a revolution where we attacked government buildings and forces and occupied foreign embassies and smashed buildings and looted rich businesses that exploit the country's status and beat the fuck out of police and military and basically the stuff you'd see in a civil war, they called it the arab spring
things were so bad that people would had rather risked their lives by charging towards an entire batallion of military police officers armed to the teeth with riot gear and automatic assault rifles spraying live rounds sometimes all over the place just to punch them in the face and get arrested and tortured in a dark basement for months to prove a point about how fucking bad it is
and it's only going to get worse, and people know it, the old and the youth, and the government has been doing everything in their power to suppress us from succeeding because they know that if we do we will overpower them, they've banned almost every popular news site and every VPN service, not just the sites but all the VPN services and their locations, so you can't even connect to a VPN
>could you elaborate ?
and the youth and the older generations know this
the new president was a military dictatorship fuck just like the old military dictatorship fuck and he rigged the election by literally BANNING everyone from competing against him because he "deemed them unfit for political representation", he also forced every public employee to vote for him, he was literally the only contestor in the "election", and if it wasn't for this random guy literally nobody heard about that registered FIVE MINUTES before the ballot ended who was actually PRO-SISI, lmao the POLITICAL OPPONENT PRO-OPPONENT lmao
anyways yeah i don't think i need to go further at this point, it's just fucked, and if yo utry to do anything aobut it you will die
>Couldn't you hang out with the educated middle-class / rich persons kind of people ? The kind that goes to university and that kind of thing ? Or other who were westernised by similar means as yours ?
yeah i could but i don't live anywhere near a university or near those kind of people and i don't like spending time with people because they drain me
>Oh ok, so what make you happy ? Have you tried the crafty precise kind of activity, like drawing, bakery, or any trade like woodworking or plumbing ?
i don't really know, random things i've found funny while looking at youtube videos or browsing Jow Forums makes me happy
i'm a good chef, i cook really good asian food like chinese food, but i don't actually like cooking
i like watching political and philosophical debates and sometimes when i hear some of the conclusions they present i get a little happy because it confirms some of the conclusions i've made and i know that other people have thought the same thing i have
>but does that mean that a lot of single girls/ polygamy in your country. Or are in one of those "let's abort girls" country with a fucked up m/f ratio ?
there is absolutely no abortion, abortion is extremely taboo and highly illegal and you will most likely get lynched by a mob if anyone finds out you've had an abortion
but, there is a fucked up m/f ratio, there are at least 5-6+x more men than there are women, and the only owmen that exist are locked up in houses with their families under very close supervision and monitoring and are only ever allowed outside of the house with the companionship of at least 2 males either within the family or that the family can trust
contrary to popular belief i haven't seen any polygamy being practiced here, but there are rumors of some places where people will have 2-3 wives but i've never actually seen it
the way it works is you marry your 1st 2nd or 3rd, usually 2nd-3rd cousin via arranged marriage through your extended family, this arrangement is usually conducted between the 2 fathers of the son and the daughter/cousin, this is because women are extremely rare to come by and you cannot actually just go out and meet women because there are no women outside to meet and you don't talk to them directly, your parents talk to their parents
consanguineous marriage is widely practiced and i'd say most people are literally inbred, probably why the average national IQ is a few points away from literal borderline deficiency
>Are there any library, or ways to learn about this in your neighborhood ?
there are no libraries, but there is the internet, i study these things by watching youtube review / analysis videos heh
it's not the 18th century, you can learn about anything on the internet and you don't even have to read a book anymore, you can just watch the actual people who wrote the book sit down and talk or even other people debate eachother on their books and their ideas etc
>you can at least try right now the youtube / twitch part
yeah i can probably try the youtube part, but the twitch thing won't be possible because my internet connection isn't strong enough, and i don't think the internet infrastructure even if i were to ever get say ADSL would be strong enough either, but i could try youtube, it would be a drain on my data but eh, i guess
>This seriously sucks, but if you talking about clit ablation, i think there is luckily other ways to please a woman like G-point stimulation and various erogenous zones. Look it up. You could also start a blog or something to advocate against this practice, but I think taht political activists in your country get eaily arrested, so it basically sucks, I guess.
LOL, dude, do you know what happens to people that start blogs like that? the secret police will fucking track yo udown and literally kidnap you and torture you in a dark basement for weeks / months because you are a perceived terrorist threat and a threat to national security and public peace, this is an islamic military authoritarian dictatorship, not a democracy, you have no voice, and you have no freedom of speech
more than a 100 newspaper sites are blocked from the ISP's, and more than 300 VPN services are also blocked from all ISP's, journalists are regularly arrested and a celebrity was arrested and sentenced to prison for provocatively eating a banana on television
and it's not just clit removal it's labia removal as well, many women struggle with constant infection and pain and bleeding, and sex is unpleasurable and actually very painful to them, also the g-spot thing is just a myth and very few women actually experience like squirting or orgasm just from penetration, that's why you see women try to grind / hump you instead of just jumping up and down, they're grinding their clit / labia because that's what feels good, and when they masturbate they use vibrators and move around their clit
>there is a fucked up m/f ratio...
Sounds shit
>you don't even have to read a book anymore
I dunno, my uni does still have a library, so I guess books are still useful for in-depth analysis, but youtube analysis videos are still good enough, I guess.
Here are some pirated ebooks library, if you wanna try them:
libgen.io
b-ok.org
Also, some college de france lessons were apparently video'd if you are french speaking:
for example: college-de-france.fr
moocs are cool and free, too:
edx.org
>the secret police will fucking track yo udown and literally kidnap you and torture you in a dark basement
yeah, that's what I though
>sex is unpleasurable and actually very painful to them
sucks
>the g-spot thing is just a myth
No. I think its a part of the clit (which is a 3d organ) inside the vagina.
en.wikipedia.org
uk.askmen.com
also, erogenous zones and cuddles and kiss
en.wikipedia.org
it's not just youtube analysis, it's seeing the people who actually write the books or conduct research speak and even watch them debate other people who have done the same thing, like now you can watch sam harris and richard dawkins debate high-ranking religious figures and listen to hours of alan watts's university lectures and ideas, or listen to charles bukowski speak about how he sees the world, or see university psychology lectures from jordan peterson for free from the comfort of your bed
you can even watch robert sapolsky teach advanced biology inside a standford university lecture hall for free as well, there's really no point in reading books now with youtube / google and the internet when other people can read them for you or you can just listen to / watch the people who wrote them in the first place
those are some good book torrent sites, i don't know if you've heard of sci-hub but that's a good one for unlocking paid research articles, i used it to access like $2,500 worth of super niche research articles for free for this extended essay assignment once heh
>No. I think its a part of the clit (which is a 3d organ) inside the vagina.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
onlinelibrary.wiley.com
tonic.vice.com
there's still debate, and there are some anatomical studies which show that there is a specific area that has the ability to produce a sort of sense of pleasure in some women, but not all and it's still a matter of discussion, but anyways objectively speaking the clitoris contains the most nerve endings and therefore the most pleasure
anyways, these girls have been traumatized and had their flaps and clit sliced off either with a raw sharp razor blade with no anesthesia awake or in a private clinic with some corrupt fucked up desperate doctor and it almost always results in repeat infection bleeding and pain
Fucking Indians gtfo
why so racist? are you from Jow Forums? i'm not indian though
>you can watch...
Nice ! I'm personaly not into that youtube lectures thing, but I'm happy that it does exist, especially for people like you.
>there's still debate
Ok I don't know much about this, you might be right.
>these girls have been traumatized
Yeah, thats shit.
Anyway, I dont know how to help you. I would unironically advice you to be a migrant to Europe, especially since you seem to have the capabilities to go to uni, but I heard that the journey is full of dangers, and that immigration policies are getting harder and harder. So Its your call I guess. Other things I would advise is to get to know rich people, and go full nepotism, or to find a trade in something that people will always need, so I guess food production, alcool, drugs, construction, luxury for rich people, military, religion, ect... But I need to go to sleep now, and it has been a nice conversation, so best of luck user, I mean it.
>Anyway, I dont know how to help you
i mean you kind of already have just by talking to me and giving me something to do, i'm not looking for anything from anyone, just felt like talking
one of the best things you can do for a homeless person is to just sit down and talk to them about stuff, they're not all looking for money, they're just people after all and we get lonely
> I would unironically advice you to be a migrant to Europe
you need a lot of money to do that and will most likely die from drowning to death or get shot or something or kidnapped and harvested for your organs, anyways racism and the alt-right is booming now and if you go to europe there will be no future for you, i don't speak any of the european languages just english, there are plenty of refugees in europe, i know one in norway from iran and he hasn't gotten a residency even though he's lived there for more than 10 years and knows the language fluently like a native with no accent and literally looks white and changed his fucking name to patrick and is christian and everything, contrary to popular belief they government won't give you anything it's just propoganda, that's why so many refugees do things like steal and smuggle / sell drugs etc because there's no legal opportunities for them since you're banned from working and you don't know the language and society and every racist hates you even if you integrate successfully
>get to know rich people
the rich won't associate with the non-rich, i can't even afford to go to the places that they go to just to hang out, they might spend an entire person's monthly salary on one dinner meal / night out somewhere
>find a trade or something
there is no demand for trades, tradesmen are the lowest of the low unlike in western countries, a construction worker / welder makes less than a $100
>But I need to go to sleep now
alright, gn, you too, hope i helped you somehow or taught you something new or told you something you never knew before
Yes you did, You taught me about youtube lectures and egyptian problems and how I should talk to homeless people. Good night mate
Where did you learn english?
>no, my father explicitly told me to my face that he does not want me to work for or inherit the family business because he says it's too dangerous and he doesn't want me to get hurt
This looks hard to believe.
If you don't continue with the business you'll have no money and then you'll get hurt even more, getting ass raped in an alley and sucking aids dicks for a loaf of bread. What kind of "dangerous business" are we talking about man?
>You taught me about youtube lectures and egyptian problems and how I should talk to homeless people. Good night mate
lol, really? i thought everyone knew you could see lectures on youtube
here are some good ones off the top of my head you can watch tomorrow if you like:
youtube.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
and that's good heh, good night
>Where did you learn english?
the internet
>getting ass raped in an alley and sucking aids dicks for a loaf of bread
this doesn't happen, no man would pay for you to suck his dick here, would only happen if i was a female though
in fact it's usually the homeless and those people who are the ones who rape the women and people not the other way around
>What kind of "dangerous business" are we talking about man?
don't know, he won't tell me what he does but it looks pretty shady
Cause it's better than earning $0/month.
You should probably look to upgrade your job/earnings or get a second job till you find something better.
it looks shady?
well, how shady does it have to be to be shady over there?
Because if cutting off female genitalia, working 50 hours for 200US, smoking opium and marrying your cousin is the "normal" I really want to know what shady is.
I'm not judging user, for real, but you got me intrigued.
hmm, i suppose that's the only reason
but i mean is it? what is there to spend your money on, drugs or something? sex with a prostitute once a month? isn't a better use of someone's time to enjoy themselves in such a situation instead of working intensely for a single dollar an hour (which they don't actually get paid or until the end of the month)?
>You should probably look to upgrade your job/earnings or get a second job till you find something better.
the best it gets is $600 a month, and to do that you basically have to be the owner of the company or something
lol, i don't know how shady it is but it has to do with something about my dad knowing information that other people don't know and giving consulting advice to some people or certain things nobody knows anything about and arranging contacts with other people, not very shady here but pretty shady i suppose for someone like you
>Because if cutting off female genitalia, working 50 hours for 200US, smoking opium and marrying your cousin is the "normal" I really want to know what shady is.
>I'm not judging user, for real, but you got me intrigued.
lol likewise, it's intriguing to see someone so surprised, it makes me wonder how nice and orderly your life has looked like, that's perfectly normal yeah, most marriages are with people's cousins and nearly 100% of the female population is mutilated, it was only ever made illegal 10 years ago by the way, it was perfectly legal to pin your 5 year old daughter to the ground with 5 other people and slice her clitoris off with a razor blade while she's fully awake in 2008, but of course laws only exist if there's someone to enforce them, and police officers themselves have their daughter's mutilated so...yeah
as for the opium thing that's the second most popular drug the most popular one is hashish or tramadol / painkiller-laced hashish and of course cigarettes, i can't tell you how many people smoke cigarettes, smoking is very popular here
>lol likewise,
Outstanding.
but do you even want to get some decent money user? You sound like you don't give a fuck anymore.
>but do you even want to get some decent money user? You sound like you don't give a fuck anymore.
i mean, i don't really see the point, i have enough savings to buy all the internet i need for a very long time, my parents understand that me and everyone else my age is fucked and that there is no future for anyone, and they don't want me to give them money because they don't want to be reminded of how fucked up their situation is and how they willingly and knowingly had kids in this place
i don't see what i'm supposed to do with the money anyways since i don't like drugs or material items and luxury and stuff, like why would i waste my precious time working for pennies? i guess you could say i don't give a fuck anymore yeah
there is no real decent money to make here without doing some illegal shit desu
What is the point in this thread? You say $200 a month with a currency worth 1/18th of the $? You don't live in the US so relative spending power is required.
So numbeo puts Cairo at about $220 a month to live in though housing is half of that unless you go outside the centre or share? You mention doctors earning $1,500-$2,000 which is 7.5x your income which is an issue, here it is more like 3-4x the minimum wage so it looks like a fairly unequal society.
It looks like if you want to live in Cairo you should earn $300 otherwise you'll need to share/cohabit and live cheap, maybe on the edges of the city. If you live in some provincial shithole I bet it is much cheaper desu and $200 will go further?
Almost 70% of my income goes on cost of living here. I'm left with almost $750 after everything each month.
Have you tried upwork.com? I made some decent money there.
The thing is that your parents won't live for ever. So unless they have some property or you have a rich brother it's gonna be bad. That's the main reason why you should somehow prepare if you want. Another option is do nothing and check out early, but the problem is with the "do nothing" part. It's fine to check out early if you've lived, like LIVED. But if you've sat all day doing mostly nothing... that's more "keeping alive" than living.
>alcohol isn’t considered a drug
Yes it is. Stop trolling