Why do good girls like bad guys?

So why do good girls like bad guys? I had this question for a real long time. I've been a bad boy and it's plain to see so why do good girls fall in love with me?

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They don't. Stop being a retard.

>retard
Whoa man calm down, I'm just asking a question. No need to get salty about it. Oh, I see. You have a giant stick stuck way up your asshole. Please remove that before you continue posting.

Because you seem like you can take care of yourself and do what you want. Some girls like that and follow.
Good guys liking bad girls, i find bad girls hot i guess, i kinda want them to turn me bad sometimes.

I guess that explains why they are attracted but not why they fall in love. Like, your explanation shows why these girls would like to fuck and hang out, but why do they want to date bad boys too? I don't get it. I never show them any signs of wanting anything even remotely close to that and yet they still fall for that trap.

They do, because it's exotic, interesting, mysterious, challenging, exciting, dangerous, etc

>I guess that explains why they are attracted but not why they fall in love
Can be multiple reasons, falling in love isn't exactly something that you can prove with a formula. You could try to describe such cases from an anthropological perspective and conclude if bad boy implies being strong and proving ones self, it's an attitude that secures territory and community which a lot of female is other species would look for as partner to secure their offsprings and their own survival - eg primate behavior

Maybe not all girls but for me nothing is more infuriating than a guy that I have 0 control over and constantly anxious over what he may do next or what other girl he may be with or what risky behavior he's engaged in and he won't come back to me. I don't even know if its love I feel for them but it definitely an addiction to the turmoil, the fear and excitement. I had a few good guy dates and one good guy bf but was bored quickly and kept longing for the "whats he gonna do next" of the bad guy. I think I'll mature more and be able to say no to them one day. I'll also say this. Never have any girls ever asked me why I was with a bad boy, they know but have always gotten a puzzled "why him" if seen with a good guy.

Women dont like bad guys. Women crave excitement. Society is slowly realizing that relationships used to work because marriage wasnt tied to love and excitment but rather practicality. We now realize that we have a choice. Stable nice guys are predictable. Knowing the outcome is boring. Bad guys make every day a new challenge.

For the record, you could be a good guy and exciting, but it requires effort.

Also don't underestimate the value of confidence. I know girls who cream for super ambitious guys who have nothing in their lives over insecure dudes making bank.

Because they fall in love with the idea that they can change the bad boys to good, they say things like "you dont know him like i do" they get caught in a fantasy of beauty and the beast thing.
But mainly they think they can change them this saving them.

>Stable nice guys are predictable.
No. What makes you think that?

>serious answers to a joke post

>beauty and the beast thing
Yeah like he's beautiful to look at and a beast in bed.

>falling this hard for a meme post

JUST LET ME KISS YOUR LIPS...THE ONES BETWEEN YOUR HIPS

because that nice guy isn't going anywhere, even if I tire of him and want him to go away he'll hold on

Get a load of this guy.

Oh, you’re with her now?

Pretty much. I mean he is considered a bad boy for a reason. He could be good looking but people think he is a piece of shit.

Ok, guess I'll have to show you what you're missing

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You know where you stand with them.
What do we mean when we say nice?
Nice guys don't ditch you for arbitrary reasons. They're loyal and dependable (or at least their intent, you can be nice and a klutz).

That's not a nice guy, that's a clingy beta.

Cue female retort

And why do guys like girls like bad girls? Why do they ignore all the average girls?

Guys are guys and girls are girls. Deal with it. Git gud.

Source:My life as guy
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nice guys become that when you want to move on

>why do guys like girls like bad girls?
But guys don't like bad girls.
Guys just wanted to fuck bad girls because they are easy.

You define a clingy beta as a "nice guy" which he is not.

THE FOLLOWING IS BEING POSTED BY A GENUINE "GOOD GUY"

A woman can easily fall for "bad guys" thinking he has assertiveness and dominance but in reality he is cocky and arrogant. Women want "good guys" to have a sense of trust and comfort in that he can protect her from "bad guys".

bad girls are so much fun and just about anything goes but you don't want them as your gf because that is a living hell.

>sense of trust and comfort in that he can protect her from "bad guys"
that never happens, even if you are squarely in the friendzone and her bestie she won't listen and she damn sure won't listen to a good guy bf when her vagina is involved

IN OTHER WORDS WOMEN CRAVE ALPHA MALES
ASSHOLES ARE BETA MALES WITH A PERSONALITY COMPLEX THAT CAN BE MISINTERPRETED AS ALPHA
WOMEN MAY SETTLE FOR A BETA BUT WILL NOT RESPECT HIM AS A TRUE MAN

That is defeatist mentality. Improve your self image.

not a guy, user. just some insight

no quarrel if you were to say trust and comfort to stand with me against whatever evil the world throws at us but I don't need a white hat to scare off the guy in a black hat

get new friends. they are holding you back because they also don't understand the problems with dating "bad guys"

understood. everyone is different.

Good girls DON'T like bad guys. They were never "good" in the first place if that was the case.

>People are good or bad depending on who they date
Ok incel lol

Show me the company you keep and I will tell you who you are.

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>the moment I have sex with someone their entire life story, experiences and personality get transferred to me through his jizz
Damn, I did not know that. Please share the scientific article that proves that. Big if true.

This

OP knew what he was doing. 40% of this board are lonely men that whiteknight for attention so you know they are going to get triggered as fuck. Another 40% are fat feminists that do not tolerate any kind of negative statement against women so you also know that implying that women are bad at judging partners will trigger them to the moon.

5% of this board are retarded leaks from Jow Forums

True but they are more sane and tolerable than the two groups I mentioned.

Those two groups are smaller than the Jow Forums rejects.

define bad boys?
protip: being rebellious, a loudmouth and confrontational doesn't mean you're a bad boy.

Honestly I can’t tell which group I hate the most

I’ve never seen good girls who like bad guys, just bad on bad. I think you might be putting the puss on a pedestal.

It's a shame nobody prunes obvious bait. We could really use the pace being set.

that’s the definition

that's some retarded definition man because none of these traits make you bad.

It was a mistake to mention Jow Forums in the Jow Forums sticky.

Jow Forums is just Jow Forums for women.

Then what would make someone 'bad'? Also, to put that definition on perspective, imagine you had a co-worker or business partner that was rebellious, a loudmouth and confrontational.

this guy gets it

>Then what would make someone 'bad'
people who steal wallets, bully the weak, hurt and disturb others willingly or break the law or opposed rules just to stand out like retarded spergy children etc.
that's bad

A bad boy in your context is rather subjective. Being rebellious is not a negative trait, in some contexts it is but otherwise nah. Only for the authority they are pissing off, also the reason behind it is important.
A loudmouth is literally just a part of character, some are, some aren't. doesn't make you bad or good. Same with being confrontational.
Though all of these traits are probably found in most legit bad men, they aren't the core that makes it and don't make you bad by default and can be found in good hearted men too.

>imagine you had a co-worker or business partner that was rebellious, a loudmouth and confrontational

half of that is me and I'm not bad. Also you didn't get it. These don't make you bad.
they could easily make you an annoying monkey or a sperg too.

>rebellious people
literally a meme.
There are those who follow or go their own way themselves, if they break rules in their way is secondary important.
The only ones who are "rebellious" people by definition are counterculture tards or stubborn cringelords who go against everything to get a sense of superiority.

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This is a two part answer; the key to understanding is being able to differentiate exciting from abusive. The first is to cover the "bad boy" angle as an adolescent. The unfortunate truth is that children don't make good decisions they make exciting decisions. Children don't have the intelligence, wisdom or frame of reference to understand the long term implication of their decisions, particularly if they have poor or inattentive parents who don't bother to inform them. A lot of guys here lament on this but the fact of the matter is that adolescent girls don't find smart, reserved and well balanced men that exciting or attractive. The same goes for adolescent boys. Typically when we get older is when we begin to practice impulse control and grow tired of the instability and drama we were drawn to as children. Exciting relationships aren't sustainable as an adult but stable ones are. Our priorities change. Some of us learn this, some of us don't.

If you want to talk about abusive men then that's a different can of worms. Women are attracted to abusive men most typically because they were normalized to abuse as a child. They either had an abusive or abandoning father who taught them to process relationships through the lens of neglect and abuse. In essence, good girls don't like bad guys. Broken girls do. You may perceive them as good but being good or bad isn't mutually exclusive with how you were raised. Women whose dads treated them like shit grow up thinking that men who love you are supposed to treat you like shit.

>Women whose dads treated them like shit grow up thinking that men who love you are supposed to treat you like shit.
Nice theory. If any of you cucks ever reproduce be sure to treat your daughter like shit so I can too.

First off what's your definition of "bad boy"? Also of you think you're being left out because you're not a "bad boy" you're probably boring and mediocre. Try to become a better person before feeling entitled to a gf.

We don't, unless we are ourselves bad.

I'm the worst asshole I know and my girlfriend is the nicest shy little girl I've ever met and she can't stop bouncing on this dick. Explain that one.

You're a retard for believing your experience represents the average

You're probably not that bad?
Also, i'm very shy too and I find myself attracted to outgoing and extrovert men, which is probably your type.

But you were giving a general rule. You didn't say "In average, we don't unless we are ourselves bad".

I guess you are bad at basic communication too.

People who see themselves as assholes are often softies to start with.
So she is shy but at the same time she is a slut that will fuck you because of your attitude? Can't call that shy.
Also why girls are usually the most kinky ones, and kinky girls like strong men, and strong men are often seen as assholes.

Speaking from my experience, people see me as shy and cute and soft but I'm the biggest cunt around, a lot worse than my fiancé that visited prison already. People just for some reason see women in different light.

i'm not that user you dummy

>You're probably not that bad?
I guess but you can be the judge of that. When I get tired of girls I just block and never text again. I tell my girls that if they get any fatter I will break up with them. I've broken up with girls for getting fatter (and gotten back with them after they got skinny again). I almost never reply to their texts unless it is something I need. Etc.

You know, I think maybe you are right. I'm a nice guy after all.

Then stop speaking for other people cuckboi.

You are just bloody edgy. Some sonic shit. Like, you are so edgy you can't be put in any label like nice or asshole, you are just katana dweller edgy tier

you're not an asshole, at least not in the conventional way.
You are the kind of tryhard guy that thinks being an asshole is a good thing, while not seeing that genuine assholes don't get laid.

make me, bitch

I don't know how any of that counts as edgy. I just would never put my dick into anything with fat. And the societal expectation is that you are supposed to be 'nice' about it and say "Oh baby, you are not fat. It's okay" but I call bullshit on that. A sexy thin woman gives you status but anyone who sees you with a fatty will think that you are a lowlife that settles for scraps.

They don’t like bad guys. They like confident guys. Most self described good guys let themselves be walked all over and more often then not aren’t actually good guys. A confident legitimately good guy would be in high demand.

My mistake you are genuinely terrible

you are the "crave respect" kind of beta that acts like an asshole but isn't, or at least a different kind of asshole

Do you like, fuck only anorexic girls? Or do you have this border of fatness that you accept? Do you tolerate fat in arse and tits?

You are edgy as fuck and it has nothing to do with not wanting to shag a fattie

actually redpilled

I don’t think it is a good thing. I didn’t before but I realized I’m just shitty a while ago now. You just have to live with it, you know? You can’t change how you are as a human.

Skinny only applies for stomach, arms and face. Any woman that I even recognize as female has to have a good ass because I like smacking them. I can’t have good sex without first getting those ass cheeks red from pure abuse but I’m not going to smack bone. I also like titjobs so you can’t be flat.

for saying something like that you show off your assholishness in a more "embrassed" manor tbqh.

>You can’t change how you are as a human
You are clearly comfortable with it or too weak to change in this case

Maybe I was brought up wrong but I swear this is the norm lmao, you try too hard

Sounds like usual guy. Likes boobs, arse and flat stomach. Can't see anything wrong with it and I'm the opposite of that.

I am comfortable because that is how I am. However it is not that I am weak, it is simply that what I do never puts me in jail so there is no danger for me, and for some reason girls keep letting me destroy them. If there was something actually wrong with me, there would be consequences. The reality is that you don’t need to be a good person to live a good life. That is how this universe was designed so who am I to go against nature?

>I'm the opposite of that.
Chill Jared from Subway

It isn't a theory. Its a demonstrable, observed behavior. We have hundreds and thousands of years of observation and research about the effects of abuse and neglect on the human mind. People adjust and embrace the things they were normalized to. Teach a kid to wipe his butt with his hands and he'll grow up thinking its normal. Teach a kid to handle his problems with violence and he'll grow up thinking its normal. Its basic logic.

Everything we know about human behavior and psychology says that, again, people are attracted to the things they are normalized to. It may seem a bit reductionist but it has been accurate in practice. People who were raised in stable households, on average, aren't attracted to destabilizing influences. Well adjusted people, on average, don't have the psychological pathology necessary to rationalize maladjusted behavior. It is, again, borne out in theory and in practice. We know this because our observation of early development psychology has been extremely conclusive in the types of personality/mood/behavioral disorders are caused by which kinds of exposures. This is all based on averages, of course. The user you're referring to, although she phrased it rather simplistically, is correct. On average, people don't put up with being treated like shit if they were raised being treated well. People normalized to love and support typically aren't attracted to chaos and negativity and vice versa.

Good or bad is relative user.
But if you see yourself as bad , which you said, but can't change because "yeap that's how it is" you're a defeatist.
I changed as a person because I didn't like myself so why couldn't you?

Also maybe you just see yourself and your actions as way more negative than they actually are.

Your edginess won't put off girls because most boys are edgy. Your preferences are basic as fuck and basically every girl expects these preferences. Literally all you have to do is not be hideous and obese

>you're a defeatist
You are not getting it. Imagine that someone said, "I am a rich and I can't change that because that is just how I am". Would you call that defeatist? No! If you name a positive trait, it is not "defeatist" to not want to change that.

It is more complex than this but I've seen many men get destroyed because their relationship was more equal. I don't treat girls like shit because it gives me joy (unless it is in sex), I do it because that is how you keep authority. I don't ask, I give orders. And when they go against what I wanted I always make sure that they know how displeased I am. However, this is a mutually beneficial relation (which is why none of what I do counts as abuse). It is in my girlfriend's best interest to follow my orders always and she learned that the hard way. To make a long story short, she was having some problems in university. She thought it was a big deal but I just told her that she was stupid and then gave her a step by step guide of what she had to do to get through. She decided to go against my advice and guess what? She fucking failed the class. And some weeks later she talked to some friends and then she admitted to me that I was right and that if she had done what I told her, she would have passed.

It was pretty sad for her and sad for me to see my bitch get a hit on her career, but at the very least she learned that she is better submitting herself to me not only sexually but in every aspect of her life. She knows I am better than her and that she better follow orders.

then why did you say it's not a good thing for you?
you're tripping on your own words here or I am not getting your way of thinking.
You see it as something bad/not good but think it's positive and therefore don't change.

anyways, if you know exactly why your "assholishness" is more like well meaning authority and you know exactly why girls jump to that, why did you make this thread asking how it works?
Seems pretty dumb.

>then why did you say it's not a good thing for you?
I never said it was. I just said it was not what society would consider 'nice'.

>You see it as something bad/not good but think it's positive and therefore don't change.
I see it as 'bad' in the sense that I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end, but it is 'good' because there seems to be no punishment for my behavior and really just reward.

>why did you make this thread asking how it works?
I didn't make the thread. The OP is a literal TikTok meme. But I caught this thread on the first page and replied to someone. Don't remember who by now.

It's a song from some emo kid that by today standards looks like a dork but fuck me if that shit wasn't cool back then.

OOOH LALA WHAT LOVELY CURVES BABY I GET OFF BY GETTING YOU OFF FIRST SORRY GIRL IF THIS IS QUICK
SO PLEASE JUST TAKE IT IN THE ASS AND SUCK MY DICK

So why do good jews like bad goys? I had this question for a real long time. I've been a bad goy and it's plain to see so why do good jews fall in love with me?

>I never said it was
>I don’t think it is a good thing
which means that you think it's not a good thing for you, no matter how you read it . You didn't imply any society crap. If you meant the other thing, write the other thing. just a lil tip.

>I see it as 'bad' in the sense that I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end, but it is 'good' because there seems to be no punishment for my behavior and really just reward.

sounds like toddler logic. But whatever makes you happy.

Okay, see, now you are trying to trick me. You asked " why did you say it's not a good thing for you". Key phrase being "for you". I never said it was bad *for me*. I said it was bad, and elaborated that if I was on the receiving end I would probably be pissed. It's a different type of 'bad'. For example, genocide is bad if you are on the receiving end, but good if you are the one doing it as you are basically securing political control over a region.

No you elaborated on that later.
Before that you simply said "I dont think its good" and nothing else, which means quite literally that that you personally think it's not good.
You explained it the way you really meant it later which is a shortcoming on my side because then I should've taken the context.
The matter here is, you didn't explain shit right.
The end.

>You can’t change how you are as a human.

Yeah you fucking can. This kind of thinking is what enables the mega-bitch women of the world to believe that being a shitty person and being accepted for it is a RIGHT. Like a massive tub of lard threatening to burn down the KFC because they didn't do free substitutions or an absolute cunt of a significant other who makes you want to commit suicide every time they open their mouth.

Well, everyone told Mike 'No buttfucking in the showers or you feel electrical powers' Pence that you can't change a person.

If Mike Pence, vice-president of the country with the most powerful military in the universe can't shock the homos then what makes you think that I can change?

>Why do good girls like bad guys?
They don't, women like guys with life experience.

"Nice guys" tend to have high opinions of themselves, but they are socially inept, don't leave the house for much other than work/education, don't have any active hobbies that involve being around other people.
If you're a woman are you going to date
A) a guy who socialises with people, goes to interesting places and does interesting things, has friends and aspires to go to places
B) a guy who sits in front of a computer all day, learns social skills from memes and is jealous of people who leave the house, referring to them as "Chad"

Girls like any guy who can give them life experiences, you can attract women by simply joining a running club and talking to people, there's plenty of single women out there who aren't awful people who will pretty much date any guy who asks them out, but everyone is a socially inept dipshit and nobody talks to women, praying that facebook/instagram likes and "hey" messages will get them noticed.

Daddy issues. Some girls like to be treated badly because that's how they think men express love and that's how their dad, another man they loved, treated her. She can't handle a man being nice to her, it's alien to her and her experience with men.

As a bad boy I’ve found that good girls particularly like us because we’re the first unabashedly masculine men they ever meet. They know that they’re seen as a prize for some limpdick goody two shoes who says his prayers by night, and that dries up pussy like crazy.

With good girls they feel a mixture of primal animal lust, and a sort of nurturing urge to befriend this powerful beast too. Tend and befriend.

Bad Girls already get all the alpha dick they want, but Good Girls are absolutely STARVING for a brutal fuck.

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Unironically first correct explanation.