Why do progressives insist that the rich have to be taxed more?

why do progressives insist that the rich have to be taxed more?
we already have a progressive tax plan and it was pitiful compared to trumps tax cut economy.
are they really this dumb?

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Muh epic Robin Hood!
Muh epic equality!
If we deny our biological nature we will magically turn into superhumans dude!

The non-NPC answer:
You are taking fake money from a group of psychos and giving it to another.

they're obviously smarter than you are (not like that's saying much)
rich = jews

jews are voting trump though??

Taxation is a weapon. The left pushes for a tax plan that will benefit the poverty class (their constituency), but still allow for the rich to evade their fair share (their financiers and propagandists), while damaging the pool of votes that conservatives should be shooting for (middle class and working class). It's political strategy, its not about being "dumb" like so many normie republicans think. All that time that you thought that Democrats were being incompetent, they were actually being malevolent.

They aren't.

ENVY

no other reason

>personal political goals above constituency goals
>not dumb

????????

>tax less
>double growth rate of national debt
>pay more tax later
boomers just want to fuck up the world as much as they can while they still can

jew votes for dems have been decresing for years.
as much as 10% from clinton.

Democrats are aware of demographic voting patterns, why do what the voter wants when you can vote social welfare leaches that vote for you 3/4 consistently. The Green New Deal has shown the Democrat Party's card, the working class is taxed up the ass for the poverty class to never work and the rich to benefit off the labor. Democrats are not incompetent, they have successfully destroyed white America and the working class in 50 years, now they will make you a willing slave for their exponentially increasing voters.

some of the left's views on taxes are literally all I agree with them on

When you make more you're drawing a larger economic benefit from this society and should pay a bigger share.

Who has more of an interest in maintaining roads; a guy who can't afford a car, or the Walton family which owns a nation wide chain of box stores that relies on trucking to stay in business?

Then you have to realize that there is no point in taxing the poor heavily because you will never collect and strong enforcement just means tax dollars paying for debtor prisons

Jews dont vote conservative. They vote like atheists, around 10-20%. If Trump becomes a neoliberal shill (which he's been doing in 2019) I'm sure that number will increase. But at that point the American conservative movement will have died and Trump might as well have been Obama 2.0.

I got into it with some lefty cunt who said poor whites needed to be taxed twice as much as poor minorities.

i thought mitt killed the conservative movement with his weak wristed campaign.

The bottom of the progressive demographic (the useful idiots) don't understand what money is or where it comes from.
So, they focus on taxation. Which is entirely irrelevant.

The top of the demographic understand exactly what money is and where it comes from, and so purposefully direct their followers towards taxation (which they can trivially avoid), meanwhile benefiting directly from the money creation process.

Because there are two ways of making money:
- through work
- through investment

If you don't tax the rich enough they will make more and more money through investments.
But it's a zero end game, meaning the people making money through work get less and less.

ie: if you don't tax the rich enough the rich investors who sit on their ass all day get richer and richer white the working people get poorer and poorer.
Currently this is the case in every Western country.

Eventually working will no longer be worth it, the entire economy will collapse, and we'll have a revolution on our hands.

I should also point out that most countries have a progressive INCOME (=labor) tax.
Generally money made through investments gets taxed LESS, and in many cases they aren't taxed at all.
That's why the super rich like Steve Jobs want to have a taxable wage of $1 per year while making all their money through tax-free stock options.

>Democrats are not incompetent

can you stop

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Mitt embarrassed the neoconservative movement and showed that the Republicans would never win another election with coalition that was formed in the late 1960s (social conservatives, anti communists, and zionists). Trump created a new coalition during the last election of the working class (a lost constituency of the Democrats), anti interventionists, and social conservatives. Unfortunately he completely sold everyone out and now he's basically becoming a big faggot that fawns over jews, niggers, and sodomites to get the virtue signaling boomers and centrists.

trump just gave a tax cut to the rich and my investment gains have skyrocketed??

They want mo money fo dem programz. To them, anyone who wants low taxes, low spending, and low federal programz is a bootlicker cuck.

While Texas, Florida, and North Carolina turn blue next election, ask yourself if Democrats are incompetent. While Democrats force the Republicans to have to support gay marriage, mass immigration, and degenerate media with the threat of name calling ask yourself if they're incompetent. White people are overdosing by the tens of thousands, white men dont work or go to college anymore, and the religious movement has completely collapsed. But I'm sure that those democrats are totally incompetent.

Progressives win points by generating more income for the gub'met via taxing the working class.

>TAXATION IS THEFT!
That being said, any tax should be a flat tax. I wish my fellow burgers could into percentages.

honestly i dont think mitt couldve handled his china issue without tarrifing them as well so i think the movement has been dead for quite some time.

We could get rid of income tax if all the loop holes are closed. Corporate taxes should be sealed tight and be exponentially raised according to the revenue. It's outrageous that a small factory pays the same amount as Amazon.

I bet 30k on Trump 2020 because it's already current year and blue team don't have their shit together.

If Biden wins the primary, you're out of luck. He'll get a big black turnout, the immigrant vote (wants to give amnesty and expand H1B), and the white suburban vote (they dont like nationalist politics). Sanders could also beat Trump, but only because he can convince the Rust Belt to vote for him to make up for the black votes he'll lose in the South.

>obviously, you can't into percentages.

No luck involved.

the camel is in the hat

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i love watching democrat nominees steal the democratic solcialist banner from their precious independent bernie.

We didn't have income tax before.

In the time of boomers, the tax was so low cause of Reagan so now today we have to support this heavy debt.

It's going to happen. Sanders is going to get manhandled by any black candidate.

The real rich don't actually pay much in taxes. Also nationalism socialism is the way to go.

is kamala a minority.
my mutt eyes cant tell anymore.

Indian and african, but she carries herself like a black person. She's going to BTFO Bernie in the primary.

Mrs. Harris is white.

The law sets a tax rate, but the wealthy don't actually pay that rate - they have a team of lawyers that dodge, write-off and hide offshore anything they can which deprives the nation of revenue and support of infrastructure and it's people. That's why are country has been on the down slope for the last 50 years.

Those are not progressives, those are greedy scammers and thiefs. Who are rather willing to live with the money stolen than earned.

RIP AMERICA
1776-1913

>Who are rather willing to live with the money stolen than earned
Are you talking about transnational corporations and banks?

luckily for us, bernie doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of being nominated. Just an outside chance of biden running, but they'll run a diversity candidate, because the dems are that retarded.

Or the pharmaceutical companies and internet companies

How much of the economy can you actually remember? Seeing that most of your window of analysis is

>we already have a progressive tax plan and it was pitiful compared to trumps tax cut economy.

I'm assuming you're comparing the recession and recovery to Trump's tax cuts economy. Btw, Trumps tax cut economy has also been accelerated by Obama's Stimulus Package. When you look at the data, it's 100% obvious that a more equal distribution of wealth and higher taxes on the rich are better for the country. I'm not a Socialist, but I do think that the taxes need to be raised on the "super"-rich. I also voted for Trump.

>but they pay 70 percent of ht the taxes!

well...

>As of 2007, the richest 1% held about 38% of all privately held wealth in the United States. while the bottom 90% held 73.2% of all debt. According to The New York Times, the richest 1 percent in the United States now own more wealth than the bottom 90 percent.

This Crony Capitalism bullshit is making Capitalism look bad.

Obama's Stimulus Package did jack squat. It wasn't until he stopped trying to mess with the economy did it actually recover.

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>while the bottom 90% held 73.2% of all debt.

Very much doubt that's true considering how much the rich like borrowing money to make more money.

What I'm saying is that, "Trump's Tax Cut Economy," is benefiting from some of the Stimulus Package's business incentives.

>Obama's Stimulus Package did jack squat
According to your graph, he took the unemployment rate down by 3% during a severe recession. I wouldn't call that not doing jack squat.

The rich borrow the money or the business borrows the money?

Easily the dumbest post in the thread when welfare is the single biggest hole in the budget and economy

Not even the gay analogy works when you can just tax the roads instead, which they do under the same exact logic, and yet it doesnt fund them

Wake up you stupid fuck

Because they're retarded, the real problem is the loopholes, doesn't matter if you make it a 100% tax, those kikes have ways around it and that's what you should be focusing on.

>Easily the dumbest post in the thread when welfare is the single biggest hole in the budget and economy

You do know that mostly because of "veteran" benefits.

He's proposing the same argument people without kids say about paying for public schools, just with a more obvious product.

THIS

and declare war on tax havens.

Can you believe that Apple is a fucking Irish company?

>veterans benefits
How ignorant are you?
>its just more obvious
No its stupid, as is the schooling argument

Yup, Amazon's HQ is in Ireland too.

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Veteran's benefits are the largest make up of social aid in the U.S. It's lumped in with nigger-gibz. The G.I. Bill, the health benefits after someone is no longer in the service, the life long pay check after they get out, etc., is all lumped into the nigger-gibz social aid not military expenditure.

How ignorant are you?

>No its stupid, as is the schooling argument
If you say so, I'd try to argue his point than just calling it stupid. He's saying that someone that has more stake in a the country as a whole (because they benefit more) shouldn't have a problem paying more in taxes.

Don't get Kiked by graphs amigo.

Such fucking bullshit man, we need to nuke tax havens ASAP. That shit needs to be illegal.

About weak law environment, socialist government and taxes.

Chosen by individuals who are to lazy/stupid or weak to get any money with their work and demand free stuff from the rest of us.

Without those fuckers corporations would be able to suck a dick at most.

Its not lumped with medicare or medicaid retard
>how ignorant are you?
Lets see a source for your stupid fucking claim

The drug part of medicare is set tk eclipse the entire budget eventually, and you want me to believe that veterans disney dollars are more than that

>because they benefit more
You two retards just repeating that doesnt make it so. And i didn't just call it stupid, i explained why it was stupid you stupid fuckwit

>people who use a government service more should pay for it more
And yet income tax bypasses any consideration for use whatsoever, while usage taxes do fuck all to pay for what they claim to

Taxes today dont go toward this fantastical idea you and the person whose dick youre sucking say they go toward regardless

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>It's not lumped in with medicare or medicaid
I didn't say that it was specifically lumped into those categories. I'm saying that ALL SOCIAL PROGRAMS include military housing stipends, V.A., the G.I. Bill etc. on a break down of the budget and not military budget where they should be. They make up a larger portion of civilian entitlements, deal with it. Medicaid and Social Security is something that everyone pays for in advance... YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO BUY IT, where as it's not benefiting me any bit paying for some grunt to fuck off in college.

>And yet income tax bypasses any consideration for use whatsoever, while usage taxes do fuck all to pay for what they claim to
Well then it's obviously going to something more substantial??? Then they again have a larger stake. Can you even logic?

>all social programs include veterans bennies
Sure
>they make up a larger portion of civilian entitlements
Wrong and stupid, citation needed
>social security is something everyone pays for in advance
Thats isnt how it works, thats is how its STATED to work and how they sold it. People take out more than they paid in on average and it will only get worse

>then its obviously going to something more substantial

>if the government is misappropriateing money purely by redistribution it must be "something more substantial"
>can you even logic
Most comically ironic post of the day, bourne from pure ignorance

>we already have a progressive tax plan and it was pitiful compared to trumps tax cut economy.
Proof? It's also corporations that are sought to be taxed, not mom and pop stores.

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I'm going to leave it there, you can do the digging.

Digging for you asspulls would be gay so ill pass

>why do progressives insist that the rich have to be taxed more?
they get this info from cultural amrxism that say that because of this:

". The ability to save would be greatly curtailed. People would just not be able to save any considerable degree of wealth. There was some statement of recognition that wealth represents power and wealth in the hands of a lot of people is not good for the people in charge so if you save too much you might be taxed. The more you save the higher rate of tax on your savings so your savings really could never get very far. And also if you began to show a pattern of saving too much you might have your pay cut. We would say, "Well, your saving instead of spending. You really don't need all that money." That basically the idea being to prevent people from accumulating any wealth which might have long range disruptive influence on the system.
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