Dating at 25

I recently broke up with my girlfriend. I am back into the dating market. I installed tinder and bumble. Does anyone else feel like a dehumanized piece of shit after using Bumble or Tinder? I am a pretty decent looking guy and keep in shape, and the interactions which have ensued while on these apps make want to neck myself.
> one word responses from anyone 4/10 and above
> only girls who try are morbidly obese
> have to try and carry conversation by either being a clown or simply asking them out. It's humiliating to me

I thought I had value as a human bean, but if this is what online dating is, if this is my true value in the market, it's very disappointing.

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Honestly tinder is literally for whores

Your best bet is in real life, and as a 27 to a 25, i know that can be hard once you have your career going

Damn man, I relate a lot. That feeling is indeed super dehumanizing, to be forced to do your best to entertain some primadonna who is just mildly amused, like a jester in a court, it's fucked. Best advice I can give is don't take their lack of attention personally, they get an ABSURD number of messages and only choose to respond to the ones that stand out, it's sad but true. Or get out in the real world and do a hobby and meet people blah blah fuck that

Whores for men whom are not me. I work with men only and go to the gym where there's some girls. I was thinking about going to a bar with my friend too. I often wonder where a man meets his future wife nowadays.

I can't do it anymore bro. It was making me feel so awful. It crushed my self esteem more and more with each interaction. I guess I shouldn't take it too personally but it means I also don't stick out. I am not the best looking or the most interesting then. Which is kind of
> Or get out in the real world and do a hobby and meet people blah blah fuck that
Haha, I can relate now too. Hey man improve yourself! Go the gym! Get a career!

Wages have been stagnant for 40 years. Dating between men and women feels more like the utopian rat study.

I quit smoking and go to the gym now. I went on no fap and am still on it. It feels so pointless to extend a life in such awful circumstances sometimes. I save up all of my money and have a decent job but it would take 20 years to buy a home outright.

No fucking good end in sight it feels like

Welcome to the abyss
You are not going to find what you want, give up now, there is no point in struggling

>I thought I had value as a human bean
dumb frogposter

If you proactively look for people, you tend to meet people who are also proactively looking for people, and these aren't generally people you want to settle down with.

I don't want a fucking frogposter wife.

Had a buddy enter the dating pool after he graduated college; essentially zero friends, since they all moved away.

He's a genuinely good-looking, hard-working, smart, interesting dude. But his standards were high, considering the times we live in.

Every single online dating match on PoF, Match.com, and Tinder were "Southern Girl Looking For a Christian Man", and they were all unemployed morbidly obese chain smokers.

We, his friends, convinced him to bite the bullet and just pay for eharmony. He was was married within 2 years to a genuinely great woman (for him).

Same with those after recent breakup
I'm in not give a shit mode and walk up to chicks everywhere and introduce myself, works better for me as of recently

those apps are trash my man, go hit the bar with some of your friends on the weekend, it'll be way better for you love life.

You deserve every piece of pussy you get you magnificent fucker
That's the plan for my upcoming weekend. My Chad friend makes a great wingman

I tear myself apart every time I use them. Why am I not good enough? Are my pics bad? Am I ugly? Is my personality awful? She's not interested in me. Am I a piece of shit? etc. etc.

No that's exactly what tinder and bumble is like. If you're not good looking they won't give you the time of day. It's definitely biased towards women due to men having low standards.

I would suggest doing it the old fashioned way, going to a nice bar, or brunch and talking to women there.

Avoid any type of social media if you wanna talk to a girl. This will save you time and sanity.

What do you quantify as good looking?

Someone who is conventionally attractive.

yeah dude it sucks.
Try doing small classes or clubs/meetups for different hobbies. Try new stuff, talk to people there.
Friend of mine met a cute girl at archery lessons, seems legit.

Women are buyers, men are sellers
Girls on Tinder are getting bombarded with matches. They don't need to "try"

YOU need to be interesting enough to get more than one word responses. Because there's a shit load of "decent looking guys" who "keep in shape" trying to win their affection. And I assure you, there are more than enough out there that are being more interesting than you.

If a girl doesn't seem interesting. It's because she isn't interested. Make yourself interesting!

Women on Tinder barely count as people.
You're just an option, competing among slavering hordes of dick pics, "hey wassups" and six-figure salaries looking for a pump n dump, for the bored affections of girls who're really just there for the attention/validation and occasional free drinks to begin with. Any other interaction is a minority.

If you want to be treated like a person, you have to meet people like people. Same way others said - hobbies, work colleagues, whatever. As long as you're not some desperate dog, you'll meet some nice girls and see where it goes.
Social media is an algorithm driven fuck-machine, a bastardization of existence. There's no dignity to getting involved in that or the "club" scene.

i can't handle that shit. fuck it. it's so weird. esp when you eventually add them on social media and see hella mutual guy friends I'm like


did they fuck this internet woman already?

Approaching girls irl is different from online dating. The bahvior is different. You will solely be judged by how good you look in your photos and that‘s already a shallow environment to play in. You shouldn‘t take what happens on tinder seriously.

These tinder comments make me realize I was right to avoid it in college, it would have made my self esteem even worse desu

Lost it at human bean

10/10 OP

This 100% is what I was going to say. And I have decent luck in person with girls but on dating apps goodluck

Dude I get you, been on those apps for 3 weeks now, its disappointing af, especially since a buddy of mine gets like 10+ matches a day, I have 3 a week if I am lucky.
Still I learned something, dont carry the convo on the phone, there are one hundred and fiftiyfive trillion dudes out there who try the same thing to her everyday, ask her out very quick.
Give her an opener about her bio, write a few lines to get to know her and then pick a date for whatever.