>girl starts texting me out of nowhere >not really into her, don't really bother to text her too >she continues to text me >realize she's actually pretty sweet >get talking on a regular basis >start getting attached >randomly meet when going out a few times >asks to hug me >she's being more flirty over text >ask her out >she says yes >cancels and doesn't talk to me anymore
Do girls play these sadistic games for fun or something?
>Do girls play these sadistic games for fun or something? You'll never get an accurate answer to your question if your knee jerk reaction is to hold all women accountable for the behavior of this one woman. Also, this behavior is most certainly not exclusive to women. Some people, particularly young people, like the chase. They like flirting, they like the excitement of chasing someone and wanting them and being wanted but when it actually comes time to settle into something they take off. It can either be because they're young and immature or because they have some more deeply seated issues with intimacy. Either way its exceedingly common, especially among younger people. My suggestion to you is, instead of using this experience as validation for developing shitty incel ideals and settling into the role of perpetual victim you learn from this experience, pay attention to the behavioral patterns of the people around you and use that information to spot these people and avoid them. It really isn't that difficult. It sucks that you got shafted. Getting hurt sucks and lashing out sometimes makes us feel better but you have to use your head on this one. You can either complain about how mean girls are and focus your energy on circumstances you can't control or you can grow, adapt and learn to avoid these kinds of people in the future. The choice is yours.
Bruh this image is horrible. Women truly are monsters
Lucas Gray
Massively underrated post. This could easily answer 90% of questions on this board.
Joshua Robinson
Lol I know as a fact I’m my exes backup. I am not going back but it’s funny to see the stats and realize I’m not alone.
Life is hard, relationships are hard and feelings are hard. Men make as many shitty mistakes as women. You think guys don’t have backups? Stick to your guns and don’t participate in this behavior or encourage it.
This bad behavior doesn’t exist because women are evil. Women (and men) are often stupid and confused. Mistakes and stupidity leads to this behavior, not malice.
Zachary Davis
I appreciate your response. Not OP, but I've experienced something similar to what OP has and this is a "Grade A" response on a board like this.
Jackson Cruz
Dont act like they dont know it s bad. They know it damn well but still do it. They are lying and then acting like victims to feel good about themself.
The question is why should I act good ? Acting faithfully never got me any benefit. I dont even feel good about myself and I m starting to resent everybody who act shitty and feign ignorance ? Yet if I do act like that I ll feel the malice weighing down on me. I m fucked either way and I resent the world. How can I be in peace ? Help me
Connor Brooks
Only way is to find a genuine good person desu they exist btw
Tyler Green
>Dont act like they dont know it s bad. They know it damn well but still do it. I know you're going through a thing right now but lets not sit here and pretend like life is this black and white; like only "bad" people do things that hurt other people. You know that's not true. Lots of confused, lost and dysfunctional people hurt those around them without conscious effort. Its called being human.
>The question is why should I act good ? Because only behaving good as a reaction to being rewarded and being treated nicely isn't being good; its being an opportunist and a deceiver. If you want to be an asshole that is up to you but don't delude yourself into thinking that you're justified in doing so just because you've been hurt before. We've all been hurt, dude, either you have the will and the urge to overcome this pain and learn how to process disappointment in a good way or you just give up and be a dick. The consequences and responsibility of that are on you.
>I m fucked either way and I resent the world. How can I be in peace Get some therapy. You sound super fucked up in ways that can't be solved over the internet. You need some serious guidance and help because right now the only thing you're interested in focusing on are all the ways you're justified in being miserable.
Levi Martinez
She didn't see any intrest on your part so she sort of given up.
Owen Allen
Top tier post, I have lived through this shit
Lincoln Campbell
Uh, just ask her out again?
Blake Powell
Not always on purpose. But I agree with the first post for sure.
A lot of people are what I call Emotionally Unavailable. This means that being vulnerable and opening up at the risk of being hurt is just not something they do. Instead they put any or all barriers to actual emotional intimacy and connection. Basically, flirting is easy, dating is easy, hell even having sex is no big deal for them. But a lot of people don't want to be in a relationship because it means they have to care about someone else and be an active member in their life in a way they wouldn't for anyone who isn't a very close friend or relative. They also do it because they were raised by distant parents and thus seek the same thing well into adulthood. Take a good look at how most modern dating advice tells you to be aloof and sort of unavailable to be attractive. Men especially get this advice in order to attract a lot more women. Someone who is available and desires you turns you off because you don't think it's normal and it doesnt make you feel strong emotionally in the way an unavailable person does. Even people in relationships now, so many choose people who aren't fully there for them.
Eli Powell
>girl puts herself out there, takes initiative and shows interest >act like an uninterested faggot >don't reciprocate >she loses interest
>They also do it because they were raised by distant parents and thus seek the same thing well into adulthood. You seem like a well spoken person, but I can't 100% agree with this. What I have found is the opposite, that people go out into adult life and look for things they couldn't get in their childhood.
Hudson Diaz
Great post, what's your take on public speaking? Any tips?
James Mitchell
You're just, factually wrong. You learn what love is from your parents. If they are wonderful and supportive, that defines what you feel as being "love" If they are shitty and neglectful, that defines what you feel as being "love" That first user is right, you seek out what is comfortable and familiar to you, doesn't matter if it's objectively bad.
David Ramirez
>What I have found is the opposite, that people go out into adult life and look for things they couldn't get in their childhood. That isn't reality. If that were the case then the people who were beat and abused in childhood would go out and look for healthy, happy relationships with non-violent partners. We know that not to be true.
Leo Miller
>what's your take on public speaking? Its good
>Any tips? Speak loudly
Asher Murphy
>You're just, factually wrong. >You learn what love is from your parents. In your reasoning, children whos parents die young and consequently weren't raised and didn't experience 'loving parents' will never go out and experience 'true, healthy love' whatever that is supposed to mean. Which is just factually untrue. >If they are wonderful and supportive, that defines what you feel as being "love" Or they take it for granted, think that is normal and needs no effort. Which causes them to never have it themselves. >If they are shitty and neglectful, that defines what you feel as being "love" This is factually untrue, and I can speak from experience here. >That first user is right, you seek out what is comfortable and familiar to you, doesn't matter if it's objectively bad. This is just not a very nuanced answer or explanation at all.
Hudson Thomas
It's not MY reasoning it's what anyone with any kind of qualification in developmental psychology/mental health will tell you. Take it or leave it I don't really care about your anecdotes or "experience" that claims otherwise because it's irrelevant. Continue to be willfully ignorant, it's of no concern to me.
Benjamin Anderson
>In your reasoning Its not reasoning. Its evidence. Its centuries of observed, quantified and peer-reviewed studies of human behavioral patterns. Emotional conditioning is a legitimate and well documented psychiatric mechanic. The basis is that conditioning someone to a certain kind of stimulus will cause them to, in most cases, internalize it. If you beat a child everyday, when they become an adult they will be conditioned to violence. If you teach a child through that violence that the people in your life who love you (your mom and dad) are supposed to be violent towards you they will not find it strange or abnormal when a partner or friend is violent towards them. Their minds were conditioned to a very specific value system and once that developmental stage is done getting them to change that value system is incredibly difficult. This is borne out in every study we've ever performed on the matter. Through these studies we've isolated and identified the specific developmental influences that contribute to specific behaviors. I appreciate that you feel strongly about your personal experience but you are indeed, factually incorrect. Unless you have some compelling evidence why the hundreds and thousands of psychiatric, psychologists, anthropologists and behavioral scientists that have dedicated their lives to studying and confirming these trends are wrong then its not really up for debate.
Tyler Martinez
>In your reasoning, children whos parents die young and consequently weren't raised and didn't experience 'loving parents' will never go out and experience 'true, healthy love' whatever that is supposed to mean. This is also factually incorrect. Firstly, I think you're forgetting about family members and adoption. Children whose parents die aren't just left to raise themselves in the wild, user. Secondly, these children will most likely suffer some kind of attachment disorder. When a child suffers the loss of a very important figure in their life they typically grow up associating close relationships with a crippling fear of loss. However, if a child is supported well enough, has access to therapy and a loving enough support system to replace their parents, growing up to be well adjusted is a very realistic goal.
Kevin Ross
Damn I'm a backup. I'm fine with it though, I get a shit ton out of the friendship.
William Price
Once redpillers find a survey or study that serves their agenda they absolutely cannot let it go. This one poll has been circulating incel forums for literal years.
Benjamin Carter
Wellp, /thread
Austin Thomas
Hmm
Jack Jenkins
The actual % may indeed be skewed for one reason or another, but that alome doesnt deny the very existence of such practice done both by men and women in dating games.