Can someone redpill me on college/university, is it a necessary thing to live a decent life?
Can someone redpill me on college/university, is it a necessary thing to live a decent life?
Brandon Lewis
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Nathaniel Lee
It's not necessary unless your goal is something that requires a lot of college education, like being a doctor or dentist or PhD in something. Or if you know the way is paved for you, such as having a scholarship or other financial support.
These days it's much more about who you know and the work experience you have. College is no longer a guarantee of a good job, so don't put yourself into debt if you don't have to.
Austin King
Actually, let me add a caveat. College is not necessary but putting in work is. You may need certifications, and if you decide to go the non-college route then you need to make sure you get work experience (any will do at first) and work your way towards your goal.
No college doesn't mean you can slack off. Unemployment is at an all-time high and it sucks, which means you need to put in the effort even more to make it.
Grayson Sanders
no idea but that image is pretty
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Jackson Bailey
College is not necessary to have a decent life. In fact, some people’s dispositions or financial situations are such that going to college would worsen their circumstances. There are thousands of potential careers which don’t involve a degree. Most do, however, involve training.
College is still a very good thing to do, though, especially if it’s a decent private college. Statstically, people who go to college have much better lives on average than those who don’t, and how you want to interpret that fact is up to you.
Lots of NEETs and people who are currently in college (kids) will call some degrees “meme degrees,” but these people are basically fools.
Carson Anderson
No. And in today's day and age picking the wrong program could actually destroy your life what with going nowhere with it and incurring the debt.
Skill trades pay extremely well, you can work your way up anywhere if you got the right personality but thats out of your control.... You can learn a skill at home and freelance on upwork these days (heck you can self.learn programming and be a developer without even an have diploma if you know how to market yourself
..) for very good money if you're self motivated.
You have a thousand million options outside of post secondary. It is definitely a viable option but don't go blind. Know what you want, and what the prospects are.
Nolan Wood
>trades
>programming
You don’t need to work *that* hard to make a decent living, though. I wouldn’t recommend most people go that route.
Christopher Jones
college is a scam. there are legitimate career paths that require a more specialized and intense education, but most people genuinely don't need college. they also bloat your tuition bill by requiring unnecessary courses that have nothing to do with your chosen field of study to make you "more well rounded" which is bullshit speak for "we make you take a bunch of the shit you're bad at so you might fail and have to pay us more money to take it again or we don't give you the fancy paper recognizing the rest of your education"
if you're fascinated by an occupation that requires a college education, go for it. if you're fascinated by a certain subject and just want to learn more about it, go take some classes about it. If you really don't give a fuck about college but you think you have to go because your parents and teachers spent the last 18 years of your life telling you that you just HAVE to go because it's basically high school 2.0 and you'll never get anywhere without a degree, don't just blindly stumble into that depressing money pit. figure out what you really want, then pursue that goal, whatever path it may take you down.
Parker Sullivan
Word. I was more getting at there's options. You're right though. I dabble in freelance work. Most I ever made is I made a website using wix and ran Facebook marketing campaigns for a home renovator dude who's totally computer illiterate and asked for a 5% commission. I must have put in 5 hours of work which brought in 3k over a period of 3 months.
Anyway he went bankrupt. Turns out he sucked at quoting jobs.
Landon Edwards
Meme degrees: creative writing, communications, gender studies, etc
Majority of people in sciences are not cut out for it, can’t speak for business and finance
With you until
>work your way up
Robert Jones
The problem with self-learning is you don't get any networking in. It's a lot harder to get into any industry if you have no contacts in it.
William Walker
>Work your way up
I mean as I said, that's highly personality dependant and out of his control.
I know I cringe when people say "just work your way up" like it's the onvious solution to poverty.
Aaron Long
It's just jewish propaganda. Learn something useful like a trade, at least then you'll be fit and know how to do something if shit hits the fan.
Jason Edwards
STEM? Yes
Business/Law/economics? Depends on what particular business program. Finance and systems engineering pay, marketing is meh. Law is a grind.
Anything else? Unirionic meme's that will not give you an edge whatsoever.
Connor Richardson
Took history, it was a waste of time, money and energy.
Benjamin Reed
Wyatt Fisher
My dad sells real estate with no degree and he grossed over 300k last year.
Carter Cook
>Me.Jpg
>35 YO
>Never set foot on college campus
>Took internship early in career at large company
>15 years climbing corporate ladder
>Today, Director-level at $50million company
>Still zero college
College, for my career path, was a waste of time and money. Further, everyone I work with went to college and literally 9/10 are completely professionally incompetent.
Landon Foster
>is it a necessary thing to live a decent life?
DEFINE DECENT
omg I fucking hate it when people do this.
Like I'll ask my friend, how much money do you want to make?
And he'll say
>enough to not have to worry about it
Like WTF does that even mean?
Where is the line in the sand? Do you worry about paying for groceries at your budget grocery store? Or do you worry about affording all of your luxury designer clothes every week?
Earning money should be about living MORE THAN DECENT. You should always target more than you need. Even if you don't get it, you should at least WANT it.
I will very well admit that I want a billion dollars. But the moment I think about it, it feels like a limit (funny huh), then I want 2 billions. Then more, until I envision an interplanetary human race with a central currency in which I own all of it and it's STILL A LIMIT.
So define "decent" first.
Then the answer to your question is "no" either way. I never went to university and I'm rich af. You only need university if your job requisites it. Actually university nowadays is probably more of an inhibitor than anything. If you do go, really make the most of it, you have to nuzzle hard to excel in mainstream.
Zachary Sanders
>creative writing, communications
You can still get good jobs with these degrees though
>gender studies
This one’s more “academic,” but you can still get writing/communication skills out of it
Liam King
I feel like you're not successful.
Charles Bailey
fuck off
Levi Jenkins
Having a decent college degree (no useless one) is basically a safety net, it's not the key to success.
Being well-educated says very little about how competent you actually are. There are so many factors that weigh into how potentially successful you can be as a human being. Many of these factors are hardly tested when you're in college. That's why there are quite alot of people out there who drop out of college and end up becoming extremely successful.
That being said though, like i mentioned earlier, college degrees are a safety net. No matter how good or bad you are at something, if you have a degree in it, atleast you have that degree. You can have a degree in software engineering and still suck at it. But because you have the degree you'll probably still be able to land a decent software engineering job that pays you decent money despite your lack of real competence.
Josiah Wilson
Now I'm certain you're not successful.
Juan Robinson
It's the safest option. As long as you have a diploma, you can get a job. Now, it's especially important what major you take. Anything other than medical school, IT, business, generally STEM is a big waste of money. You can have a good life without it but you need to at least have some skill, electrician, wielder, nurse, etc. If you don't even want that, your only option is to slave away on manual labour job and hope you have good strategy for investing. But mostly, the more difficult university is, it'll most likely pay off in the long run.
Ian Johnson
Not even in the long run, I know my dad and mum were saved by having university degrees as immigrants. They literally started from nothing, with 2 kids to owning a house and 2 cars. Had they not finished universities, we'd be piss poor in some shack.
John Sanders
>Meme degrees: creative writing, communications
As a double major in both of these, they're actually in pretty high demand, especially when put together. Starting salary is about 40-60k for PR/Communication work.