Gf throws tantrum any time I ask her to do anything

It does not matter what angle I take. She says that I turn every attempt to get her to do a chore as "shit on her time" which to me just sounds like she knows I'm fed up with her being lazy and shes panicking/grasping at anything she can to avoid doing it.

Yes I think shes lazy. Yes I've called her lazy to her face. Yes I've expressed how fucking pathetic she is compared to women of the past when the ONLY thing I require of her is to clean up after herself and to take care of the laundry. I do everything else, and work my ass off. She just sits on her ass and pretends to be a victim then cries about how I wont put a ring on it.

Why would I marry this woman? Why? What in her mind makes her think I'd want to marry a lazy crybaby that has a massive chip on her shoulder? She has a good job, sure. Better than mine I'd say. That doesnt mean she gets to just sit on her ass though and I make sure she knows how I feel.

What the hell do I do? I'm in the right but she pretends like I'm a terrible human being for this.

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Child marriage is illegal in western countries, Mohamed.

>she pretends like I'm a terrible human being for this.
That's called being manipulative, I think it's called gaslighting as well, but I'd rather not use words I don't know. If she's not willing to benefit the both of you and even goes out of her way to blame you, she's bad news get away as quick as possible

I think you're in the right, OP. You should tell her what you said in your third paragraph. Next time she throws a hissy fit, say "Why would I marry a lazy crybaby with a massive chip on her shoulder? Grow up, or get out."

OP, imagine when you land a even better job and she becomes a stay at home wife/mother.

When you come home after your 9 to 5 job and 1 hour minimun of commuting, shes sitting on the couch, in her undearwear, "forgot" to take a shower, didn't cleaned the house, food hasn't even been bought, kids (if you have) are smelling like shit.

All she did that afternoon was enjoying her time, as soon as you say inquire her about the state of the house or when is the food she will throw a tantrum with high pitched screams, this will be your life every day until you die if you decide to marry this kind of person.

Yes "Me time" is important, im a lazy person and i love my me time after work, but i live with mom. I'm not in a couple living by myself in a house we both are supposed to maintain. I, however, am a very anxious person and i don't tolerate "i will do it later", because i know she will be waiting to the last minute to do the chore to see if i do it, as a way to condition me.

Go fuck yourself. Shes 26

I'm already fucking myself, thank you very much. If she's 26 then tell her to stop acting like a child or break up.

Is it really that easy to cut someone out of your life?

For me it's not so simple. It's not like there isnt good. She just sucks ass when it comes to tending the home. It's like she thinks because shes a woman she doesnt have to do anything and if I leave her it might wake her the fuck up but thinking about the pain I'll cause pisses me off. This problem could be solved so EASILY if shed just GET OFF HER ASS AND HELP.

The two of you just sound really awful and I hope you never break up cause then that means there's two of you running out there to make other people's lives a mess

>She has a good job, sure. Better than mine I'd say.

so why do you want her to be suzy home-maker if she's the one making money

I think I'll do just that. Thanks user.

I'm really fucking trying here and I dont think she understands the gravity of this.

>The two of you just sound really awful and I hope you never break up cause then that means there's two of you running out there to make other people's lives a mess
You're going to have to actually support what you're saying here. How am I awful?

>so why do you want her to be suzy home-maker if she's the one making money
Did you even read my OP? I don't want her to be a fucking housewife. I want her to clean up after herself and do the fucking laundry. I take care of literally everything else, including fixing her car and yardwork. Who do you think is out there shoveling snow?

Her job is indeed better than mine but not by a significant margin. The way you framed this pseudo-clever question it is as if you think she is some Company Executive. She's not. She makes 4 dollars more than me an hour and I appreciate every bit of help that is to managing our finances.

but she has it in her head that she can just come home and sit on her phone watching Jenna Marbles all day while I clean up after her.

The ability to not force relationships with people you dislike just to be emotionally and sexually validated

>How am I awful?

>Yes I think shes lazy. Yes I've called her lazy to her face. Yes I've expressed how fucking pathetic she is compared to women of the past

That is how you express your feelings. That's pretty shit dude

>Did you even read my OP?

Feels like I already read it like 4 months ago
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but it's cool that she makes more money now I guess

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>ash tray
My girl doesn't smoke. Not me. You're not helping and basically have no reason to post, so fuck off.

>That is how you express your feelings. That's pretty shit dude
You did NOT read my post. I said I tried every angle. That includes being patient and sweet. What, are you illiterate or are you just picking and choosing what you reply to so you can antagonize and not actually GIVE ADVICE?

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I dislike this aspect of her, not her overall. It really isn't so hard to grasp.

Why do people that never get into relationships come to Jow Forums and attempt to give advice?

>That includes being patient and sweet.

yeah man you sound real patient and sweet with your "modern women are pathetic gb2 kitchen I'm in the right" attitude.

Well of course not. Why would I still be patient and sweet when I never saw any improvement by doing so? You seem to be unaware that I hit a breaking point. Do I have to explicitly state that when its fucking obvious to anyone that isn't retarded when someone says "I have tried every angle and I'm fed up".

I was pushed to that. It is becoming clear that you're a lazy woman that got offended from the things I said. Do yourself a favor and get off your ass and do some chores you've been putting off instead of wasting your time in my thread.

OP, ignore the flamer who is obviously autistic.

You really have to give her an ultimatum. She needs to clean up her own messes and do a single chore (laundry). Tell her you're not a butler, and you can get another girl who isn't a slob.

Dude, you sound desperate. The reason why she can pull this shit is because she can tell you're bluffing. You can find another girl, and if you can't. Just import one from the third world, at least they'll clean for you.

Imagine being so autistic that you think it's okay for a grown adult to make a mess and not clean it up. If the only chore you had to do was that and laundry, and you couldn't do it. It just proves you're an incompetent womanchild. There's a reason why you're on Jow Forums.

>Yes I've expressed how fucking pathetic she is compared to women of the past
Tearing the woman you're with down isn't a good thing. If she's really too ineffectual around the household to do simple chores, then she has some kind of emotional problem going on. I also think it's a sign of an emotional problem that she deals with your temper and sense of entitlement.

If I just said, "Don't be a prick," would that help? I'm not a psychologist. The fact you endorse shit like shows you're at least being a jackass Mohamed right now, if not all the time. Following that "why should I marry you then" advice would actually damage your relationship, and it doesn't take a genius to see that.

Now that you're an adult, do you understand that "two wrongs don't make a right" was actually a good lesson? If you behave and feel entitled like this all the time, that's a serious problem, regardless of what kind of person your girlfriend is. Even how you're telling user to "give advice or fuck off" is really silly because you're not entitled to anything. This is a free service.

I guess my practical advice is to either see a relationship counselor or get out of it. There has to be a way to communicate with this woman to get her to do things around the house, and there is a way to get the "why should I marry you if you don't do household chores" message across without being abusive.

Break up with her if you don't want to be with her or can't imagine a future together or at least talk about those problems in a way that solves them

>Dude, you sound desperate.
I am. Because I don't want to have to explain to people that the reason why I left an otherwise amazing relationship was because she was lazy. Its like I have this "mama didn't raise a quitter" mentality and I can't shake it.

>Just import a girlfriend
I wouldn't have to but if I do end up leaving her I will seriously look back on this as losing a great relationship over the absolute dumbest shit.

How hard is it to do chores? It's not. It is looking like I have to man up and give her a true ultimatum even though I don't want to. It fucking hurts. I don't want to hurt her over something so fucking easily fixed.

>It just proves you're an incompetent womanchild
I love the immediate assumption that you think I'm a woman just because you don't agree with me. but hey kudos for showing some restraint and not calling me a roastie or whatever and posting pepe the frog

>. It is becoming clear that you're a lazy woman

and hey whoops same thing here again. I didn't suck your dick to tell you how right you are so I MUST be a woman, right?

oh shit, maybe you'll call me a s yboy and a male feminist that would be original

man I don't care, I'm constantly cleaning up after myself and everyone else. if your dumb girlfriend is such a lazy cunt then break up with her

but oh no wait you love her even though she's a retarded lazy woman, right? Can't break pup with her even though she's making you blood red mad whoops

>How hard is it to do chores? It's not.
okay so you do the chores then

I'm starting to think you're the crybaby here

>Tearing the woman you're with down isn't a good thing. If she's really too ineffectual around the household to do simple chores, then she has some kind of emotional problem going on. I also think it's a sign of an emotional problem that she deals with your temper and sense of entitlement.
It isn't as if I jumped right to this. I've tried everything man. she's been like this since we moved in together.

>the fact you endorse shit like this means...
It means I'm desperate to solve a problem in our relationship because I'm up against a wall and have tried everything i can think of. I don't actually want to hurt her. None of this would be happening if she would just get off her ass, user. We would not be here talking about this.

Okay. So you're probably right. I shouldn't say that shit to her. But I honestly have no idea what to say anymore when she talks about us getting married. I don't want to marry a woman that won't clean up after herself or do any god damn chores, even though we have a lot of fun and the sex is great and she is practically my best friend. Its such an EASY problem to fix. JUST DO CHORES.

If you really can't explain the situation well, just keep referring people to the first few bars of the Offspring song "Why Don't You Get a Job."

>man I don't care
>continues to reply

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>okay so you do the chores then
I am you absolute moron, and it isn't fair. She's lazy and needs to stop being lazy.

Why do you care about what people think? They don't have to deal with a disgusting slob. A lot of women leave men for doing the same exact shit, and you're being quite liberal with how many chores she has to do. It seems like she's wearing the pants in the relationship.

>It is looking like I have to man up and give her a true ultimatum even though I don't want to

Sometimes you have to make tough decisions. And sometimes you have to cull people out of your life. Some people will never change, and this is already a red flag for the future. If she doesn't give a shit about the cleanliness of the house, she will become an obese femcel.

Imagine being so entitled that you think it's normal for other people to clean up your own mess. There's a reason why you're an incel shitposter on Jow Forums. I bet you expect your bf to pick up your piss bottles too.

not the same person, user. Yeah, you sound more like a lazy woman with every post you make. Just stop.

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You might consider that somebody that freaks out over one chore might not be worth being with at all. You've already said you wouldn't marry her. So why do you put yourself through the torment of dealing with her shit? Simple things are usually what ends relationships. This is one of them. Stop suffering through it and drop the womanchild.

She can get away with this shit is because she can sense you're desperate. She knows you have no way out, because you don't believe in your ability to find another mate.

It's just pathetic. You're gonna get walked on your whole life because you just want to please other people and do a little song and dance about how perfect your life is to them. While in reality, it's all falling apart and you're miserable.

>It seems like shes wearing the pants
Then why does she leave every financial decision to me? It's like she treats me like I'm daddy man.

>not the same person, user.

I never said you were. but yeah roasties reeee female female

>and it isn't fair.

but if it's so not hard to do chores then why is it a big deal why are you here now having internet fights with anonymous posters because of it

>you're an incel shitposter on Jow Forums. I bet you expect your bf to pick up your piss bottles too.

oh good I went from being a woman to now a gay incel who somehow also has a boyfriend

>I never said you were
You basically did, dumbass. Anyone reading that post can smell your intent.

If she wasn't wearing the pants, she'd obey you when it came to doing chores.

I don't know how close you were with your grandparents, but it was common for the wife to handle the finances and women in Japan still do so. It doesn't mean that the woman was wearing the pants in those relationships.

>She knows you have no way out
This assumption is incorrect. I've repeatedly stated that I don't want to hurt her and I don't want to lose an otherwise good relationship over something so fucking trivial.

Just because I'm sappy in my relationships when I'm actually in one doesn't mean I let people in the rest of my life walk over me user. You need to learn how to give advice without making assumptions.

>You basically did
I literally did not.

I replied to two posts that all came from the same one including yours

It's a regular thing that people do on Jow Forums, replying to several posts at once when one of their gets several replies. The two of you also both called me a woman in different ways. That's all it is. chill out.

>yeah roasties reeee female female

There's a reason why you're a femcel. You might want to look in the mirror.

>"Men in japan often say they have two bosses: Their boss and their wife"
user i get what you're trying to say but this is blatantly contradictory

>something so fucking trivial.

but you're the one making waaaay too big of a deal over it

> I don't want to hurt her

but nah you're just gonna scream at her that she's lazy and good for nothing

Take a picture with a timestamp (you can blur your face) to prove you're not a femcel since you're so obsessed over being called a femcel. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

>I don't know how close you were with your grandparents
I didn't know my grandparents unfortunately.

Well fuck I guess I'm making an ultimatum. I can't see any other way to handle the situation anymore.

is that all you have now, you're just gonna try and call me a woman for the rest of the thread just because I said some things you didn't fully agree with? You're the one who's ironically acting like a little girl now.

>but you're the one making a big deal over it
How isn't this a big deal when this has been an ongoing problem?

>nah ur just gonna say shes good for nothing
Again, I was pushed to calling her lazy to her face. I'm not perfect. The fact that you're so willing to defend her lazy bullshit tells me that YES you are lazy too.

Imagine making a demand that I take a picture of myself with timestamp for this vietnamese basket-weaving forum - while saying that I'm the one who's obsessed over anything

good stuff my man, good shit my dude

that isn't even OP user. so, why are you in my thread? What brings you here?

If all you do is find fault in others, don't be surprised that they become hostile towards you. Your story sounds awfully as if you have left out crucial details to the origin of this conflict.
If one gets told off for doing something and told off for not doing it, why would they do it?

Okay, sweetie. It's time for your future cuck to pick up your piss bottles, shit-stained panties, and pizza boxes on the floor. :)

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>How isn't this a big deal when this has been an ongoing problem?

Cause you said so yourself, chores aren't hard to do at all

so...

>so willing to defend her lazy bullshit tells me that YES you are lazy too.

not so much that, just pointing out that you're the one who's being hysterical over this shit.

You want to break up with her because of chores? Okay dude, go for it.

jeepers creepers user

>If all you do is find fault in others.
I don't. And she isn't hostile towards me. She just refuses to do shit.

>YOU LEFT OUT SHIT. WHERE IS THE ORIGIN
The origin is that when we moved in, we split up chores. Eventually she decided that she wasn't going to do anything. My girlfriend became a lazy girlfriend and nothing I've tried has fixed this. I find breaking up with her over it to be extremely trivial but if she won't make the effort to not be lazy then what can I do other than say I tried?

>You want to break up with her over chores?
I've repeatedly said that I don't you illiterate fuck.

careful man, with those opinions they're gonna call you a woman and ask to see a picture of your birth certificate and driver's license like totally normal not-autistic people would

you're clearly upset

>I've repeatedly said that I don't you illiterate fuck.
okay well sweet, thread is over. Glad we could sort this out for you then. Good job guys.

Spoiler: It's because she's a woman incel who has never had a dick inside of her due to the rancid smell of shit on her panties.

ITT: Lazy fucks buttblasted that non-lazy fucks are tired of their bullshit

How can you not call that hostility towards you?

I guess you're right. It's passive aggressive.

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>I find breaking up with her over it to be extremely trivial but

If it were trivial, you'd be like "whatever man shit's boring who cares" and you'd do the chores without coming here to make a thread about it or yelling at your girlfriend that you're not gonna marry her or whatever

>chores aren't hard so OP should just deal with his lazy ass gf
lmao user you're retarded, but a treasure. thanks for the laugh

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Alright. More detailed advice: don't make this issue about her worth as a person or her worthiness of being your wife. Factually speaking, you shouldn't marry a woman you can't peacefully live in the same household with, and she probably already agrees with that. So, there's no need to convince her of anything like that.

From a totally peaceful, rational place, you can tell her that to marry a woman you require her to at least clean up after herself. I really hope that she is a slob, and you aren't an OCD guy who chews her out for leaving dishes in the sink for a few hours.

Again, from a rational place, I really don't see how she can disagree with this. If she continues being ridiculously emo about it, first sincerely admit that how you have been acting towards her is wrong, and that you want to get off on a good foot. If she keeps being way too emo after that, you're at a crossroads.

A. Do you want to be with a woman for the rest of your life who is like a baby?

B. If the answer is yes, you have to administer some kind of *reasonably measured* consequence. This is done by using positive and negative reinforcement. This is not the same as being cruel or rude! Basically, say, "I've told you about what it means to me that you clean up around the house (so I'm not really going to be cheery with you right now)." Obviously, don't copy that word for word.

Now, when she actually does what you're requesting, cleaning up after herself, administer a reward. You need to appreciate her and have positive intentions towards her, and zero entitlement. In reality, she doesn't have to clean a damned thing in your household, because it's a free country. When she does clean something I want you to be nice to her. Alright?

Pretty simple. If you're pointing at smudges on the counter and screaming like some kind of psycho, or if she throws a dinner plate at your head, it's probably time to back out and work on yourself. Hopefully this helps. Sorry if it's patronizing.

you're autistic and misunderstanding what I meant by that shit. I mean that I feel like that reason for breaking up with someone is so fixable that it shouldn't even be a fucking issue.

>She has a good job, sure. Better than mine I'd say.
she has the proverbial pants on, there's no way you can change this without earning more than her

well he says he loves her and doesn't want to break up with her and that chores are trivial.. so.. yeah? That's the only logical series of steps to take there

>I mean that I feel like that reason for breaking up with someone is so fixable that it shouldn't even be a fucking issue.

It is an issue.

Well if she doesn't have to clean anything than neither do I I guess. Wow what a fucking amazing line of thought user I never thought that we could just create and perpetuate a cycle of laziness and make our quality of life worse as a result.

Good shit tho overall. I'll take your advice. And no. I'm not screaming at her like a psycho over smudges on the counter.

If that is honestly what you think is "logical" then I have news for you user: You're dumb.

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lol op is a beta. telling from the comic that he posted was created by a white nationalist. he probably gets pegged by his white girlfriend every night while he cleans up after her. he even washes her panties because he's a good little boy with no spine.

op how many good boy points do you get towards being pegged for cleaning up after her? lmao

The more you write, the more it's obvious how much of a short-tempered sensitive man you are. We're not even 100 posts in and you're already lashing out at genuinely helpful posts and doubling down on petty sarcasm.

Easy. Drop this fucking girl dude. She is hard work. Think whether you want this level of hard work for the rest of your life, I know I don't . You can find someone that is more easy going.