Is it wrong for daddy to express his love for his little princess by being very physically affectionate with her? I'm talking about often kissing her (not on the lips), hugging her, cuddling with her on the sofa, sleeping in the same bed at night, talking softly to her while having her sit on your lap and playing with her hair and hands, caressing her arms/legs, giving her shoulder or foot massages? Of course none of this is supposed to be sexual but is there such a thing as too much affection? Are there any negative consequences to any of this or as long as it's not forced she'll just love daddy even more especially if he never hits her ever and that her only memories of close contact are remembered fondly? Also, could it be possible for such asexual father-daughter affection to carry on to adulthood? Any girls here experienced any of this?
Father-Daughter Love
If it was completely asexual you wouldn't make a thread on adv asking if it's wrong. Your perversion is what's gnawing at the back of your head.
This is clearly some kind of fetish bait thread but I'm bored and lonely so I'll give you a sincere response anyway.
Before the age of 10, it was normal for me to sit in my father's lap, exchange hand/foot massages, and hold his hand. Kisses were never a thing though. I just remember some time around the age of 10-11, other people got really freaked out about the foot thing. They probably thought he was getting off on it, but no, feet just fucking hurt. There was one point when I was young and consciously thought to myself, "I'm too old, I can't hold his hand anymore" so I let go and never grabbed it again
My dad was affectionate with me yes, not sleeping in the same bed though thats a bit weird. I remember it fondly because he always wants the best for me and while he is not perfect he is a good man and I will always cherish him and what he does for my family. Even now that I'm 21 whenever I come back home I give him kisses on the cheek.
Why are you asking, do you have a daughter/about to have one?
Some famillies are more affectionate than others. For me, what you described (despite the creepy vibe) sounds almost normal, besides the whole lap thingy there. That is... questionable at best, and so is sleeping together past a certain age.
No, I just remember reading about how it can still mess up her mind because affection subconsciously provides arousal and it can end up being “overstimulating”, also that her future relationships could be ruined because she’ll expect too much from other men or something along those lines.
Do you miss his affection?
>not sleeping in the same bed though thats a bit weird
You’d probably view it differently now if he did it since you were very little.
>Why are you asking
Because I don’t want anything bad to happen.
>Is it wrong for daddy to express his love for his little princess by being very physically affectionate with her?
It's wrong to talk like that man that's weird not even one sentence in and I've got like 4 red flags already. why are you calling yourself daddy and little princess and all that
do you actually even have a daughter or did you just watch too many anime
>I'm talking about often kissing her (not on the lips), hugging her, cuddling with her on the sofa, sleeping in the same bed at night, talking softly to her while having her sit on your lap and playing with her hair and hands, caressing her arms/legs, giving her shoulder or foot massages?
nah, man, like half those things are for you wife
what are you playing at
No, because I basically peeled myself off of him and set those boundaries when I was ready. Just let it happen naturally, OP.
>It's wrong
Why is it wrong? Define “wrong”.
>half those things are for your wife
Why shouldn’t my little princess deserve some of the love I provide my wife with considering the fact that I couldn’t love the latter as much as the former?
What if I don’t want such a tragic separation to occur? Again, I would never force anything but I’d do everything I can to prevent us from not being close anymore.
>Why is it wrong? Define “wrong”.
cause it's weird man why are YOU calling YOURSELF "daddy" when talking to us and speakin in the third person that's weird man you're weird
>Why shouldn’t my little princess deserve some of the love I provide my wife with
right, so this is a bait thread after all
>why are YOU calling YOURSELF "daddy" when talking to us and speakin in the third person
It doesn’t sound weird in my language.
>right, so this is a bait thread after all
No it’s not. What makes you think that? Daughters don’t deserve daddy’s love too? Why? Explain your reasoning and remember that I’m speaking of love without any sexual connotation.
Why I this being reposted. Are you a bot? This exact thread was posted here three ish months ago and OP was outed as a crazy pedophile who needs prayed for and saged and possibly stoned ti death.
Do you call your wife your ‘little queen’? Do you call yourself ‘hubby’?
Unfortunately the terms ‘little princess’ and ‘daddy’ are mostly infamously used by guys who are too overprotective, have issues with their daughter growing up and dating a guy, control/anger issues, and have unhealthy sexual interest in their daughter.I’m sure you aren’t like that, but if the word ‘little princess’ comes out of your mouth, lots of people will think you are freaky. Just dont use that term. Call her your daughter/best girl or something.
>OP was outed as a crazy pedophile who needs prayed for and saged and possibly stoned ti death
I don’t recall that and my intentions are pure, user.
>Daughters don’t deserve daddy’s love too?
man, stop calling yourself that
>No it’s not. What makes you think that? Daughters don’t deserve daddy’s love too? Why? Explain your reasoning and remember that I’m speaking of love without any sexual connotation.
cause the love you got for your wife isn't the same you have for your daughter or the love you have for your dog or the love you have for ice cream and video games
like WHY do you want to cuddle with your kid and all that weirdly detailed shit you wrote how old is she you want her to be sleeping in your bed until she's 25 or something why cant your wife sleep in your bed what are you playing at man
do you even have a kid and a wife
>overprotective, have issues with their daughter growing up and dating a guy, control issues
I may be like this too but my heart is full of love.
>deserve love
You can show love by setting healthy boundaries and showing her it's okay to say "no" to being touched ever/not touching your daughter as if she's a possible romantic partner
>love meant for wife
because romantic/overtly affectionate attention is for your wife and a little girl who doesn't understand your using her as an emotional replacement for your wife/ego boost, is not your wife
Oh ok this makes sense.
You don't have to recall it because I and others do. Sage this Godless pedo everyone
not him and it's fine to call your girl little princess or honey pumpkin or whatever and ofc it's fine for her to call you daddy
but it's the fact that he's talking to us and calling himself daddy and calling his presumably fictional daughter little princess
he comes off as either an extremely effeminate gay man, a pedophile, or someone with an IQ of about 74
It's completely normal to have sex with your daughter.
it sounds like OP is ESL, it probably is not weird to phrase it like that in his language
man it's always weird to call yourself daddy or papi or papa when talking to a room full of other adults I don't care what language you're from
Dude if you really love your daughter ,you would let her be herself and be healthy and happy. If she brings a boy she likes home for dinner? instead of threatening to ground her and shoot him, which will drive her away and make her hate you, you should meet him and discuss with your daughter about dating and such.
If you have control issues, you need to get help. Or you will end up beating your daughter the second she does something you dont like or decides to rebel. Imagine her face when she realizes that daddy only sees her as property to be hit, and not a human being who has her own wants and needs. When she realizes that you hurt her.
>cause the love you got for your wife isn't the same you have for your daughter
I know that, hence my question: Why shouldn’t my little princess deserve some of the love I provide my wife with considering the fact that I couldn’t love the latter as much as the former?
>like WHY do you want to cuddle with your kid and all that weirdly detailed shit
Because I wish to adore my little girl.
>you want her to be sleeping in your bed until she's 25 or something
Because I would love her to remain close to daddy instead of getting out of my life once she reaches adulthood and all those great moments being lost like tears in rain. I don’t want to spend my days looking at all the cute photos I’ll have taken of her and have tears coming down my cheeks thinking “this is all over now”. I also hope adolescence won’t separate us sooner.
that's because in English it's weird to talk about yourself in the third person. my buddy is from South America and even when he talks to his own family he'll say things like "my father" or "my brother". language is weird
>Why shouldn’t my little princess deserve some of the love I provide my wife
man you stupid I already told you it's not the same kind of love
at least hell it's not supposed to be, but you're stuck in it.
At this point it's like yeah sure hey WHY NOT have sweet physical sexual love with your daughter?
>Because I would love her to remain close to daddy
man stop calling yourself that when talking to other adults
>it's okay to say "no" to being touched ever
I’m sure this causes mental issues. Every daughter needs paternal affection. I remember hearing about orphans dying because they didn’t get any.
>who doesn't understand your using her as an emotional replacement
My love is genuine.
>Godless pedo
I am a very faithful God-fearing man and not a pedophile. I wonder how anyone gifted with a daughter can even be godless.
>my buddy is from South America and even when he talks to his own family he'll say things like "my father" or "my brother"
no they don't. Maybe if they see each other once a year he might be like HEY MY BROTHER but we do that in English in that same situation. if he's seeing them everyday he's not going "buenas noches mi hermano" to them
and you know what, for someone who says he's ESL he's suspiciously verbose. who the fuck says "hence" outside of like England
>I remember hearing about orphans dying because they didn’t get any.
I think orphans were dying because it was the 1910s and modern medicine and child labor laws didn't properly exist yet
Dial it back on the physical contact, Maes Hughes.
Your wife is probably in more need of a foot/shoulder rub. This isn't something that's immediately a "RED FLAG, PEDO ALERT!" thing to me, but it does kinda strike me as odd and something you shouldn't be doing.
It's not that she doesn't deserve it. It's that she deserves getting it from someone who can be intimate with her.
Your girl is going to have boys lining up for the chance to touch her fucking feet. She's only going to have one father to be a stern, coaching figure to her though. Drop the princess bit after a certain age. You're raising a human being, one that the world is going to want to take advantage of and break.
>threatening to ground her and shoot him
That would be uncharitable.
>If you have control issues, you need to get help.
I can’t get rid of my OCD, sorry.
>you will end up beating your daughter
Oh God, no I would never. I could never sleep at night knowing an image of myself abusing my daughter is immortalised in her mind. My father hit me as a child and I still resent him for it. I would never ever hit my children.
>it's not the same kind of love
Daddy’s love for his little princess is indeed greater and she deserves more than that which the wife can be provided with. What is it that you fail to understand?
>At this point it's like yeah sure hey WHY NOT have sweet physical sexual love with your daughter?
Your mind is rotten.
You have ocd? How many doctors have you gone to, are you in therapy, and what medications are you on? You have no excuse not to be the best father possible to your daughter.
If you dad hit you, you are in the most common demographic of people who beat their loved ones. Because you didn’t grow up learning proper coping mechanisms that aren’t hitting people. What do you personally do when you get really really angry? Do you have the urge to hit? Or do you step outside to calm down? What if you are drunk, do you have total control over yourself still?
Get help, go to therapy for your daughter. You have to think of her first now, and not your pride.
>something you shouldn't be doing
Why and says who?
>stern, coaching figure to her though
But I want her to perceive me as warm, not cold. She will know I will always be emotionally available for her. Daddy will make her feel secure in this dark world.
>Drop the princess bit after a certain age
As long as she remains a good girl she will always be a princess. She will learn that being good in all things, especially academically, will have her being generously rewarded. She will not be entitled, she will be humble and good.
>You have no excuse not to be the best father possible to your daughter.
He doesn't actually have a daughter so we're good
>You have no excuse not to be the best father possible to your daughter.
Correct and being so is precisely my life goal.
>you didn’t grow up learning proper coping mechanisms that aren’t hitting people
You clearly don’t know me since I’ve never actually hit someone out of anger.
>What do you personally do when you get really really angry?
I talk loudly and quite fast.
>Your mind is rotten.
Don't avoid the question. Physical love is the best kind of love after all and daddy wants to love his princess right?
Yes but I don’t want to corrupt her sexually and I’m not interested in sex in general either anyways.
>and I’m not interested in sex in general either anyways.
Your fictional wife must be very disappointed
I wouldn’t refuse to engage in sexual activity to please her but I’d rather cuddle with her, massage her and passionately kiss her.
>Why and says who?
Says most of the people in this thread and people in general. You will not find most fathers doing this stuff.
>But I want her to perceive me as warm, not cold. She will know I will always be emotionally available for her. Daddy will make her feel secure in this dark world.
It's not about how she sees you, you fucking idiot. It's about the kind of person she becomes. You can't protect her forever, you can't make her genuinely secure. The snakes will come into the garden eventually. Is your little girl going to get strangled by them while she's playing, or is she going to flee/step on their heads and crush them?
>As long as she remains a good girl she will always be a princess. She will learn that being good in all things, especially academically, will have her being generously rewarded. She will not be entitled, she will be humble and good.
She'll be unnaturally attached to her oedipal father. If you actually have a daughter, I implore you to reconsider and talk to some developmental counselors. Separating yourself from your children is imperative to their growth. That doesn't mean abandoning them or neglecting them emotionally, but it does mean saying "I'm not your friend, you need to go find your friends and pick them wisely."
>I’d rather cuddle with her, massage her and passionately kiss her.
so all the stuff you want to do to you fictional daughter, you pedo
>You will not find most fathers doing this stuff.
We’ll, I’ve never been like most people anyways.
>you fucking idiot
Now that wasn’t necessary and charitable, is it? I am here because I value your opinion.
>You can't protect her forever
But I can make it a priority for me to protect her as long as I reasonably can, can’t I?
>She'll be unnaturally attached to her oedipal father.
Tell me more about this please.
>Separating yourself from your children is imperative to their growth
What do you mean by “separating”?
>I'm not your friend, you need to go find your friends
But I don’t want to be her friend, I just want to be her daddy and always present for her. Is it so wrong?
I wouldn’t passionately kiss my daughter on the lips. I’d do more with her than with my wife though. I’d play with her, teach her things, etc. I hope my wife won’t be jealous and I’ll have made it very clear to her that daddy NEEDS to be close to his little princess. She will be understandable as I’ll explain in details my feelings and how I see things.
>It's wrong to talk like that man that's weird not even one sentence in and I've got like 4 red flags already. why are you calling yourself daddy and little princess and all that
kek’d
Seen this bait before.
when?
NIGGA ENOUGH OF COPY/PASTE
But it’s not pasta.
I have a three year old and I do all of them things. It's ok, girls at that age love their daddies. I would advise against sleeping in the same bed. Not because it's weird but rather because it's a fucking mission to get her to sleep on her own.
The sleeping in the same bed comfyness wouldn’t be done when she’s 3, that’s too little and I’d be afraid to unintentionally smother her in her sleep.
At what age then? Older than three? For what purpose? That would be a huge step backwards.
It's comfy as fuck but seriously, keep your kids in their own bed from birth and do not let them into yours. You'll never get them out of it. I have a strong independent one year old who can sleep along without a peep and don't need no man and a three year old who's still sleeping with her parents.
What in the hell is wrong with men. Just because there is a vagina doesn't mean you should fuck it. Some females SHOULD be off limits.
>At what age then?
Maybe from time to time between 6 and 8 so that at 9 it’s regular (not every night though).
>For what purpose?
So that she associates comfyness with me knowing that being as close as possible to me while being as vulnerable as she can be (i.e, asleep) she feels security and comfort. Also, not just at night but also for naps and I wouldn’t mind it if it’s mostly just for naps as if my wife is not away (in which case I’d certainly also do that at night) I wouldn’t want her to be jealous by holding my daughter instead of her.
>Just because there is a vagina doesn't mean you should fuck it.
When did I ever mention fucking my daughter?
Anyone knows about the effects for a boy seeing his sister getting all this affection?
Women associate everything with sex because that's the only thing they're valued for.
Nah, don't do it. You can still be close in other ways.
One more thing: be strict. I'm close and affectionate but I make sure no means no. The wife doesn't understand how the kids love me more even though I'm fairly hard with them and she gives them what they want if they cry long enough. Being a parent is great fun, but there's so much more to it than that.
Good luck OP.
How are you with them (is there a girl)?
>sex because that's the only thing they're valued for
because you all think like this guy
>Nah, don't do it.
I’ve been going to sleep every night pretending to hold her since 2016 now so it’s inevitable at this point. What’s your reasoning behind your objection to what you replied to?
But I don’t.
but you do and why you are here trying to get someone to say its ok
What are you even talking about?
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Why are daughterfags always such incredible creeps? You never see sonfags doing such weird shit
Define "creep".
Would you do the same things with a son? If no, it's weird.
There’s a difference between males and females so I couldn’t provide a son with this sort of physical affection. He’d only get hugs and a few headpats.
Yeah the difference is gentials. You are treating your child a certain way because of their sex organs. It's weird, dude.
the only difference is in the genitals, for the most part you can do the same activities.
>the difference between males and females is merely genitals
no
Sure, just don't do things that will put you on a list
We’re all on a list already.
Agreed
I disagree.
OP, your daughter may end up hating you if you keep this up.
One of my parents was overprotective and because I relied on the parent too much for support and love I am now socially and financially stunted.
Having to consistently push the parent back.
>overprotective
But that’s another issue. I’m talking about being “overloving”.
overloving is what i meant to say.
Just warning you OP.
What did your “overloving” parent do?
>besides the whole lap thingy there. That is... questionable at best
y tho
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>Any girls here experienced any of this?
Yes.
Well, any details?