How do I ask a girl if she's interested without nuking our friendship...

How do I ask a girl if she's interested without nuking our friendship? I sit beside this girl literally everyday and probably will for the next few years as we have the same majors, so it's not like I can be too forward. We've known each other for a year and have gotten coffee and traded phone numbers and all but I still feel like she acts like she doesn't want me around.

Everytime, like today, I decide to say fuck it and give up going after her she does some shit like come up and start a conversation and I'm too socially retarded to pick up what any of it means.

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>friendzoned

She thinks you're alright to sit next too, and starts conversations because you're a familiar face and her other friends aren't around. If her gender were male, this person would just be your study friend and nothing else. You like her so you try to see anything more out of her actions

If she don't try to hang out with you outside of school, such as invite you to parties or anything, there's nothing there, and don't even try

Idk man, it's not like I've been coy -- if she doesn't know I like her she might be as retarded as I am

usually in order to move from friends to dating, you have to risk killing the friendship

>If she don't try to hang out with you outside of school, such as invite you to parties or anything, there's nothing there
>tfw my all my ex-g/f's never did that because they were self-identified introverts

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>If she don't try to hang out with you outside of school, such as invite you to parties or anything, there's nothing there, and don't even try
Maybe she feels like she'd be bothering him with those, and doesn't make the first move out of fear of coming on too strong. I've done that.

It's not that shes retarded

You made friends with her and gave her the power

You are essentially her underling here

OP here -- my ex was exactly the same way. The period before we dated was 100% by my initiative and we were together for quite a while

i mean, generally you can tell if someone would welcome being asked to hang out outside of school. Such as lingering after class to talk to you more, looking at you a lot, things like that. i forgot I'm on Jow Forums though and literally everyone here is fucking introverted and awkward

And I am letting you know you are in the big world now that is only going to get bigger

She can say no Muhammad

>i mean, generally you can tell if someone would welcome being asked to hang out outside of school.
No you can't. Almost all of it are shots in the dark and taking risks. You're not going to be able to implicitly read people like that. And that's not even getting into factors like culture.

>Such as lingering after class to talk to you more, looking at you a lot, things like that.
Yeah, never happened with my exes. You usually had to be persistent and take the initiative until they finally come around.

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>And I am letting you know you are in the big world now that is only going to get bigger
what a condescending slap in the face

I've asked her out a few times, first time canceled bc of a literal fire, second time we got coffee, I told her I had a good time and we should do it again and she agreed (not, like, emphatically but I might be reading too much there)

you needed one

> You're not going to be able to implicitly read people like that.

What the fuck are you on, it's not that hard. Sure, you won't know for sure if they'll say yes, but you should be able to tell if someone's open to hanging out or if you even get along in any real sort of fashion. That's how i ended up going to parties with my study mates all the time

>You usually had to be persistent and take the initiative until they finally come around.

>you had to be persistent until they come around

'come around' what is this, don't you want a girl who's interested in you and you don't have to change her mind to like you? I know there's playing hard to get, but whatever you did sounds different

>What the fuck are you on, it's not that hard.
Say that to people of different cultures or those who don't have the skills to read implicites like that. Calculus isn't that hard, but it would be just as wrong to assume it's easy for everyone.

>but you should be able to tell if someone's open to hanging out or if you even get along in any real sort of fashion.
Doesn't. Happen. You just have to go with guess work or without knowing at all.

>That's how i ended up going to parties with my study mates all the time
Sounds like someone's stuck in an echo chambre.

>'come around' what is this, don't you want a girl who's interested in you and you don't have to change her mind to like you?
You want someone you like to like you back.

>I know there's playing hard to get, but whatever you did sounds different
It's called being patience and keep trying until they start stepping out of their comfort zone.

>it's not that hard
i was raised in a different culture. so it's always hard for me because social cues from where my family's from is almost the entire opposite to america's. :/

>Jamal throws a tantrum he that he actually can't get any girl he wants

I agree man, but NEWSFLASH

She was not interested

it's not easy for everyone but it's nowhere near impossible like you make it sound

>Doesn't. Happen. You just have to go with guess work or without knowing at all.

Do you have any social life at all? Do you seriously think that you have no idea if it's better to try and befriend the person who says hi to you, or do you try to befriend the person who only talks to you to ask for answers and frowns at you?

>Sounds like someone's stuck in an echo chambre.

read this aloud to yourself mate


>You want someone you like to like you back.

No, I want someone who likes me already. I don't waste time trying to make people like me.

>I don't waste time trying to make people like me.

99% of the people on this website are readers

You are talking right now and do you think they like you?

No

You make yourself look dumb and if you don't want anyone to like you then you know what? Fine.

We won't like you

>don't waste time trying to make people like me.
We can tell.

>it's not easy for everyone but it's nowhere near impossible like you make it sound
If it's not easy for everyone, then it's not easy. The level of difficulty has to be all-encompassing and near-absolute for that to happen.

>Do you have any social life at all?
That was inferred, genius.

>Do you seriously think that you have no idea if it's better to try and befriend the person who says hi to you, or do you try to befriend the person who only talks to you to ask for answers and frowns at you?
You befriend whoever puts up with you without causing a scene.

>read this aloud to yourself mate
I did, and you're still very clearly spouting shit that only works in your echo chambre, and not anyone else's.

>No, I want someone who likes me already. I don't waste time trying to make people like me.
If they liked you at all, you didn't make them.

> if you don't want anyone to like you then you know what? Fine.

Why are you only responding to the last part of my post and not the rest? Is it because you know I'm probably right? So you resort to childish retorts.

Why do i care if someone on Jow Forums likes me or not? This is just anonymous words. Who is this 'we' you talk about? You need some help mate. Like i know most of Jow Forums is a little unhinged but you're really wired

>someone going back and forth about semantics on Jow Forums thinks someone else is unhinged
What a shocker

I'm letting off steam by arguing with internet people, not gonna deny that i'm a little unhinged but i'd like a little more effort from people i argue with