How do I find a girl that’s never been raped, never done a hook up, or will cheat...

Well that sucks, if you’ll pardon my unintentional pun. But I’m serious. The girls I know would never do that. I know some who fake being Christian and who fake being based, and they’d suck dick for sure. But there are good girls out there, they’re just extremely rare. As for how to find them, I don’t know you so I don’t know what kind of places you’d go to look

She fucked someone she didn't marry, that's hooking up.

my ex had 30+ before we met
what a relief it's over.....

>every time I make this thread
Why do you keep making it? Because you think doing it enough times will magically get you a virgin gf?

Define high number

5+

Lol yeah youre hopeless. The average is 10

You should have thought about this when you were younger and not a slut yourself.

If you think you can count a "high number" on one hand, you're hopeless.

I’ve talked to girls from non degenerate countries and I’m ruined now

There are virgin 30YO women who play roblox in their free time.

I just assume they'd be fat ad have impossibly high standards though.

>non degenerate countries
What did he mean by this?

In my experience, there are 3 types of such girls
>the mousy introvert
>the 'I-just-like-going-out-with-my-girl friends'
>the reverse "Jeckyll and Hyde" : looks like a thot, acts like the alpha thot, is actually a darling sweet heart.
You probably don't have the skills to identify them and pull them towards you. All above are pretty warry of strangers approaching them to start conversations.

Lol it's impossible to even tell who is and isn't a thot nowadays...! Besides the kind of girl you are looking for won't go for someone like you as they are always have their guard up just so they can shut down and find someone truly deserving of their affection. Give up.

Short answer; yes.
Long answer; stop being a little bitch.

>been raped
lol, what the fuck? being raped is not exactly a one-way-ticket to wanting a bunch of sex

so perfect for op then

You're assuming that the girl who has not ever been in a sexual situation is interested in dating. Chances are you're selecting against your own interests. Nuns exist, but are they interested in dating you? No, because they're nuns.

You could try explicitly stating "I only want virgins" but that shows how much you care about sex when this girl probably cares less about that since, she's a virgin.

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Statistically it is, though.

this is a numbers x time equation. the younger you wife up, the better your chances are. I met my wife when she was 18, almost 19. if you try to wife up a 30+ yr old woman, even if she's low key and not a ho, your chances of a single digit body count are virtually zero.

My son found one easily. He's an intellectual and found a nerdy intellectual girl who's waiting for marriage.

The younger you get married, the higher your probability of divorce.

>intellectual
>waiting for marriage
Pick one.

How do women find men who don't rape, never had a hook up or will cheat on them? Or has a high number of sexual partners? This isn't possible in western society, right? Do they need to move to another country?

If you can answer this, then you can flip it over and use it as an answer to your own question OP.

You could move out. But here's something.
I know it's crazy, but hear me out.
You could, now follow me here, stop going to Jow Forums and/or Jow Forums and have a normal gf like everybody else in the world and stop being a whinny cunt.

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But if I get a normal gf I wont be able to avoid normal gf problems, like infidelity and jealousy and toxic exes and overbearing families and having flippant dismissive views on intimacy like "love is love and sex is sex".

Uh no, she might have been in a relationship. You are describing what generally is premarital sex.

What do you plan to do once you do "find" one?

Welcome to the real world friend.
You date people until you find one that isn't a cunt and would actually be a good roommate.

That's how it works, in case nobody told you before.

So you want to find someone absolutely perfect and flawless with no baggage, problems, or ability to cause conflict for the rest of your life whatsoever? I'd recommend just getting a pet, but I don't even think a pet fits that bill.

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I don't think it's worth it. I won't say love isnt real but I dont think it's around anymore.

Which is why you have to meet them through an activity. Work, an event, friends, etc.

Go for very cute petite or average height feminine women with feminine digit ratios and facial features.

Statistically speaking if you wanna avoid sluts avoid women with higher testosterone levels and less attractive faces. Mentally ill girls are sluttier too so avoid like the plague.

If she comes from a good family also then you should be straight.

Women use their value to AVOID having sex, men use their value to MAXIMIZE the sex we have.

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Nice source. That's for sure a legit observation.

Pretty damn sure it's still around.
Either that or me and my gf are the Columbus of emotions.

This. I feel bad for this user and all the other deluded incels.

>he will never be able to wake up to his girl
>he will never be able to snuggle up close and kiss her as she makes a noise of soft contentment
>he will never experience the joys of cuddling with your gf on the couch watching "your show"
>he will never order pizza with his gf on the weekend and bang before the delivery driver gets there

So my girlfriend's fucked a couple guys before me, big deal. I've fucked a couple girls before her. Feels good to not be inherently broken and to be deserving of love.

Funny story, me and my gf were the firsts of each other. Not by choice, but whatever.
People keep saying shit about the woman being virgin or the guy restrainig himself but sex was absolute shit for a good year before we both got the hang of things. Some experience would have made shit so much less awkward and actually enjoyable.

Why do you think it was around before but not anymore?

Niggas that want girls with a low amount of partners are the same niggas that comment first

Yeah, sex may be natural, but it isn't necessarily smooth sailing. With every new chick, you still gotta learn how to fuck her specifically, so there's a bit of an adjustment period. It's why people sleep around a bit as kids and experiment, helps them out later.

pick your poison, m8
half the anons here will counterpoint that # of sexual partners and divorce rates correlate

You’re one stupid fuck, y’know that?

hera.ugr.es/doi/15009579.pdf
scribd.com/document/143751978/Handsome-Wants-as-Handsome-Does-Physical-Attractiveness-and-Gender-Differences-in-Revealed-Sexual-Preferences (sauce without a paywall)

You could go looking in primary schools, or get your head out your ass. There's nothing wrong with a girl who has the bare minimum of a sexual history

>in b4 pictures of graphs about divorces rates from Christian-Families-Science.com

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>attacking sources instead of data and methodology

Not the guy you were replying to, but I dated a virgin girl and we did end up having sex only the relationship was a unsalvageable car wreck a year later and I had to break it up and I felt like the world's biggest piece of shit and still do. I wish I had never had sex with her man

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Did you reply to the wrong post? Nothing in there mentions the index digit thing.

the data and methdology also suck man, also you gotta be an idiot to look at just one graph from one study and take that as the absolute truth and the word of god and base your life around that. Like global warming deniers that like to smugly point out that it's sometimes cold and snowy in Winter.

One and the same, nitpicker.

Multiple relationships matures a person and gives experience. Me and gf had to do that from scratch for each other because we had the luck/curse of being each other's first but hitting the love jackpot. We fucking love each other.

>Multiple relationships matures a person and gives experience.
It also gives you the same vibe as a week and a half old loaf of bread that you're not sure is molding yet or not. I don't want someone who is exhausted and jaded from multiple failed relationships and expecting the same from me. I want someone eager to learn and grow.

>no actual advice, just stories and people shitting on OP
I'm sure you guys changed his mind

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>exhausted and jaded from multiple failed relationships
How many people do you talk per day to say that about everyone with such confidence?

Ok, serious face now, hit me with every single reason not to date someone experienced and I'll say why it's not the case and/or bullshit.
I double dare you.

>I cannot read

what sort of advice do you give to someone who is stuck in the "virgin girlfriend" fantasy

date HS school girls?

>western society
faggot

I don't know user but I doubt insulting him will suddenly make him change his mind

It's either illegal or extremely taboo, and really high school isn't much of a guarantee. my man would need to unironicallly start to date primary schools

My sister's husband is a fireman, who was taught a bunch of craftsmanship by his father growing up. They're both pretty smart/respectable and both waited until they found each other and dated a few years.

I could write an objectively true 500 word thesis that would explain why he needs to change his mind and how, and he still wouldn't change his mind.

People stuck on the virgin gf thing are really stuck in it good

I fit all your criteria, live in a western country.
Most of my friends fit.

Not that hard.

I think most of them grow out of it eventually. It's a childlike mentality, living in a Disney movie world.

worse than all these females who insist their potential BF have a job

Do you honestly believe that they're going to be nearly as invested in it after going through the motions so many times? 'You're not hitting me, cheating on me or passed out drunk, so you'll do.'

I dont want to be an ersatz husband.

My boyfriend and I both had relationships before, but we aren't jaded. We are lovey and crazy about each other.
I'm probably more invested in this relationship than I ever was, and same for him.

>Not being invested
Wow, I guess you're right. I guess no one that had relationships before will ever have another oportunity for love and people are destined to die single at heart.
... no wait, no they won't because that's what literally every single person on the planet does. Just go out and ask.

Case in point

Why do people always get so angry and defensive when someone expressed a simple preference for a virgin gf/wife? Case in point:
Some might say you agree with this sentiment deep down inside and react to this discomfort by lashing out in anger at anyone who points it out and reminds you of the feelings you've tried to bury.

There's nothing wrong with wanting your partner to be a virgin and getting so mad and worked-up over somebody saying that is just bizarre.

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-Christianity
-Poland
-Japan

literally no one's mad at incels or mgtow we all think they're weird and we're laughing at them.

It's also not "a simple preference" it's a way of life that's obvious if you spend more than 8 minutes on this website.

OP's thread wasn''t "hey I'm open to dating any sort of girl as long as she's funny and sweet and understands me for who I am warts and all, I don't mind if she's been with a few guys before me but I don't know I feel I'd be more comfortable dating a girl who was a virgin like me that would be best I feel" it was WHERE DO I GET VIRGIN GIRLFRIEND WHO WASN'T RAPED

You see it all the time, that and like "no hymen no no diamond" memes on r9k and shit. People calling other roastie just cause they dsagree with them, etc. It's a self-defeating entitlement, not a preference

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There is a difference between a preference and requirement, though. I mean, sure, we all would prefer to date and marry a hot as fuck virgin girl who's loaded with cash, has huge tits and ass, can cook like a chef and clean like a Mexican one bad job from deportation, and wants anal and loves giving head on command. You're not going to get perfection, however. No one is perfect.

The issue is that if you cut out girls and do not consider them bc someone else has smashed their pussy, you're letting your insecurity ruin potentially great relationships.

Is it worth not experiencing any relationships at all, even ones that probably won't work out in the next five years, because there's no guarantee it's perfect? You have to take risks to date. You have to accept the limitations of yourself, of others. Even a one-year relationship with a total thot is better than rotting in your empty bedroom feeling lonely and sad about yourself.

In other words, it's fine to have a preference, but if you make it too important, you'll never get off the ground and live your life. You're going to die. Are you going to die a virgin bc you couldn't find a virgin, or are you going to find a girl that's fucked some guys who'll cook you dinner every night? Your mom isn't going to be around forever to do it for you, you know.

Gud shit.

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It's just a theory, because there's no other reasonable explanation for someone to get so incredibly angry and vile and nasty at someone else for simply having a preference. Why do you lash out like that?

I make my words theirs. They already said better than I could.

Man I loved her you know. But then 3 years into the best relationship of ny life, I found out she did a threesome one time 7 years ago and never wanted to do it again.
Then a few years after that, she got sick of her boyfriend being a jerk and broke up with him.

I'm so sick of women who have experienced life. Where's my pure innocent virgin girl that doesn't do blowies, fantasies, or non-missionary and has left a sheltered life that has scarred her forever due to intense isolation in a litle rom raised by robots that never die or experience their own pain and life issues?

Fucking sluts man, I swear

>left
*lived

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Where do I find a gf who's been raped, who will understand and help me get over the terrible things women have put me through when I was younger?

Honestly it's good to have a girl with a few partners. Three is like the sweet spot.

If a girl is a virgin, she statistically speaking, won't have sex with you and you're just gonna hold your dick for like 8 months until she breaks up with you cause you're always trying to do sexual things with her.

If she managed to remain a virgin in the face of charming attractive men who have everything she could want or need, she's not going to give it to someone from Jow Forums who fetishizes her

You're partially correct but need to know where you are.
Jow Forums is nowhere close to reality.
Try going on /v/, /tv/,or /a/ for a while and try all the media they complain about or hype up.
Even from such subjective opinions, I think you'll start to see it's all just fucking bullshit.

So your values are okay but his aren't? Obviously he didn't say, "Hey, I'm down for anyone as long as they're nice and like me etc." because you just inverted his stance and then painted it as the moral, reasonable one to make his look nuts. Abstinence is a choice that literally anyone can make until they choose to irreversibly break it. This isn't a case of OP holding out for a woman who's seven feet tall and refusing to settle below that, this a case of OP placing importance on a reasonable lifestyle choice and a set of values that he and many other people uphold. I don't understand the anger at this and I don't understand this perception that the act of saving yourself until marriage is some kind of superhuman feat that is unrealistic and wrong to desire in a partner.

>sucking dick and doing anal with a bunch of different men is "experiencing life"

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of course, if you go out into the real world there aren't incels running around screaming at women. They stay indoors at their computer and post frogs.

First off, for the second time, it's not anger. It's ridicule because those people live ridiculous lives and have ridiculous demands.

>This isn't a case of OP holding out for a woman who's seven feet tall and refusing to settle below that, this a case of OP placing importance on

Nah man, it's not placing importance it's "holding out" like you said. It's a virgin or nothing.

There are lovely girls out there who do believe in abstinence and marriage and everything. They're not looking to marry a Jow Forums degenerate NEET though.

That's what's ridiculous. What makes all these incels worthy of receiving a unicorn virgin girlfriend waifu? What's so great about them? Why should they just be handed what they demand?

>posting pepe the frog on Jow Forums is going to get me a pure white virgin girlfriend

I approve this post.

>Jow Forums degenerate NEET
Why make this assumption?

Not the user, but I can't see any other possibility, honestly.

For the second time, why do you have this smug, mocking derision towards people expressing a desire for something? Why do you strawman their desire as entitlement to justify insulting them and making them out to be bad people? Nobody in this thread has insulted people who have sex before marriage, yet you happily mock people who want to lose their virginity together with someone they want to spend the rest of their life with as degenerate, ugly, unwanted NEETS who deserve to be alone. You have a really nasty attitude.

Jesus, the girls ITT are like a broken record, repeating the same insults over and over again like children.
It's not our fault if you're a slut who got used by guys, but don't come here to tell us that we're wrong for having preferring virgin women when even statistics prove our point.

There's something called "a choosing beggar".
You're it and that's what user is saying.