How do I stop bullshitting myself that I can fuck pussies and accept that I'm a fucking loser Jow Forums?

I'm with you, my dude. I want nothing more than to ravage a hot chick and then have her disappear until I'm ready to go again. Alas, I'm 22 and alone, never having touched a woman. I'm trying nofap. It hasn't cured my desires, but I hope it (or something else) does.

Thanks.

You can try to associate sex with unpleasant. Think of how smelly and slimey those pussies are. Jack off with a hand full of legos.

The cruel irony is, if incels could stop thinking about pussy they might actually be able to get their shit together enough to get pussy.

Haha, just be yourself my man. That's it haha

I accepted my loserism a few years ago. I'm 32 years old now and have only had sex with one girl when I was 25. The sooner you accept it the better. I have a good career, my own apartment, a nice car and good hygiene, but I'm a social loser. Just accept it. Some guys are made to win, other guys are made to go on Jow Forums every day and stay in their house.

Yup, that's one of the reasons why I want to stop.

>had sex
I'm of the opinion failed normies like yourself are sadder examples of humanity than actual virgins

I see nothing sad in his post.

Why can't you fuck pussies?

Cause I'm a beta loser? I think I mentioned it.

>that's what I want, only my mind doesn't listen to me.

explain.

Cut the bullshit with a knife.

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By Jow Forums standards I'm a beta too I guess, I'm a 5'6 half Japanese American with no confidence yet I can still get 6/10 thots to sleep with me, you just gotta "put yourself out there" as they say. If you show yourself to a hundred girls it's inevitable one will be attracted to you even if you look like shit. I used to think getting laid was hard but it's really just a matter of trying. I'm willing to bet most of the "incels" on Jow Forums could easily get laid if they stopped taking themselves so seriously and just started seriously trying to meet girls.

>literally a "be yourself" post
I can't tell if it's satire anymore

If you look across the entire animal kingdom, including humans, all males in nature basically have four basic functions: Eat, sleep, shit and reproducing. That's it. Males spend their entire adult lives worrying about those four things.

I thought Jow Forums stood for Advice, not Comforting and Validation.

I think the most uncomfortable part about this situation is that you can change, you just maybe don't want to. And as much as it sucks, you might think it's easier even if less rewarding, to just give up. So you tell yourself you should just give up, that you were "destined" to be a loser. Because you know it will not come easy, it will not come quickly, and you don't want to do what needs to be done to get what you want: "pussy", a relationship, whatever it is.

Before you think I'm judging you, I'm not. I'm in the same situation. And I still don't quite understand what my own problem is. Height? No, plenty of guys around my height have attracted tons of women. Race? No, I've actually been called attractive by women and even men, the logistics just didn't work out or they ultimately lost interest. Income? Plenty of guys who work with me or work for even less get laid. In fact, a couple guys I know the woman makes far more than he does in the relationship.

I think it really involves putting in the effort to improve yourself first. Then, what comes after is "putting yourself out there". You do this by meeting people in a variety of environments. You talk to them, as if you expect nothing, while remaining open to anything. If you're comfortable with yourself and your life, and think you have something to offer, you'll be easy to talk and relate to, and relationships will happen easier.

I will say this much though: if you're a good person, it's sometimes harder to attract women. A lot of women are attracted to losers because they remind them of their fathers, physically or emotionally. As it's said, attraction is not a choice. It's a subconscious response to a person who resonates with you strongly, both physically and emotionally. I'm not saying you need to be an asshole to attract women, just understand that for the most part, whether they like you has everything to do with them, and nothing to do with you.

your dad is a nigger

That wasn't the main point of what I'm saying. Being chad will help obviously, but it's secondary to the importance of exposure. If you're chad but don't expose yourself you'll never get laid. Incels act surprised that they don't get laid when they sit indoors all day reading r9k threads, moping and reinforcing their negative self image. It doesn't matter who you are, if you don't go out and try to meet women you'll never get laid. Just like if you don't apply for jobs you'll never get a job.

It's better advice than all these masochist retards sitting in their circlejerk threads talking about how they're too short or ugly or whatever.

>it's secondary to the importance of exposure. If you're chad but don't expose yourself you'll never get laid. Incels act surprised that they don't get laid when they sit indoors all day reading r9k threads, moping and reinforcing their negative self image. It doesn't matter who you are, if you don't go out and try to meet women you'll never get laid. Just like if you don't apply for jobs you'll never get a job.

This so fucking much. Yeah you'll probably get rejected a lot too, you kinda just have to put up with that if you want to get laid or have a serious relationship.

I disagree. I'm confident there are Chad's who both get jobs and girls without ever asking for it. I.e rich kids who inherit the family business and have women dying to be their wives. I get youre not talking about cases that support my point.
But, I need you to understand; no amount of exposure or rejection will ever make me attractive.

Those guys are the top 5% or so of guys, worrying about them is not doing you any good. Average or around average guys with experience are going to give far better life advice because they probably had to go through the same shit you did.

>they exist but don't pay attention to them because they disprove my point
No. I don't deserve sex, you're right, but I still want it. There will be retribution.

>I think the most uncomfortable part about this situation is that you can change, you just maybe don't want to. And as much as it sucks, you might think it's easier even if less rewarding, to just give up.
I want to give up my obsession. That sounds like a change.
>to get what you want:
Quit Internet and porn, learn languages, climb mountains, get a motorcycle, get a better job, move out, not be bothered by people. I don't see pussy on the list.
>I still don't quite understand what my own problem is.
Mine's obsession fueled by porn and validated by self-help and PUA crap. Yours probably too.
>I'm not saying you need to be an asshole to attract women,
I am and it works most of the time. [spoiler]At least on the Internet cause I'm too much of a pussy to bring it to IRL.[/spoiler]

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>any guy who has sex must be a Chad, and not simply an average guy who was able to play the numbers game and meet women confidently

Incorrect premise.

>I don't deserve sex
Nobody really inherently deserves it, that's not why you fuck somebody to begin with. You do it because they're attractive, and they find you attractive, and you both want to enjoy physical intimacy and pleasure, together.

>there will be retribution
Jesus fucking christ. I hope you're not serious.

>I don't see pussy on the list
If you meet a sizable amount of women in your day to day and interact with them it'll happen eventually, if you're doing the things you said because it sounds like you have hobbies, interests and want a life outside women which is great.

>obsession fueled by porn
Nah, I don't really watch porn. I also stopped watching or reading PUA stuff, for the most part. Some of it can be sorta helpful or even just interesting as an alternative point of view, but I don't go anywhere shit that says it's going to Red Pill me and make me a True Alpha. There's nothing good about "advice" that has to constantly be negative and scathing.

>If you meet a sizable amount of women in your day to day and interact with them it'll happen eventually
It does, otherwise I wouldn't call myself a loser.
>Nah, I don't really watch porn. I also stopped watching or reading PUA stuff, for the most part.
Good for you, bro.
There's nothing good about "advice" that fuels your obsessions and then grins and kicks you in the balls saying that you need moar "abundance mentality". That's most of Red Pill and satellites.

I didn't say every guy who has sex is a chad. They are all normies, though. Chads are usually cool but still completely different than myself. Regardless, I am in a class of people far below even normies and I most certainly do not deserve sex. The right to sex is a natural mechanism designed to propagate the best of an organism. I am not anywhere close to the best of humanity. Chads are close. They want to enjoy physical intimacy with desirable males, and this *want* on the female part is what the *deserve* is.
I am serious insofar as, if there is ever a societal collapse and I don't die immediately, I will rape a woman.

Wow, these guys are real. I was starting to doubt the authenticity of the term incel as it's often a blanket insult thrown at any guy who says he's unhappy with women too much, but here we are.

I almost want to ask you to post a picture of yourself, because I still seriously doubt you're that bad looking.

You know, I don't think I'm bad looking. Yes, I have a beer belly or dad bod or whatever they call it. Yes, I have long hair and a beard. Would I ever call myself flat out ugly? No. But there is something inherently unattractive about me and what it is doesn't matter. I'm not unhappy with women per se, just that I have continually been shafted by life. Not even anything outwardly negative, just constant denial.

It's not even about looks. Some guys are just too beta and boring for women to have any interest in them.

Asceticism is the answer. If you feel like you spend a lot of time thinking about sex see a tantric yogi dude or something.

very easy to fuck hot girls just acquire a stereotypical shit that makes you wanted if you cant work out why a girl would want to fuck you over someone else gl

Whatever it is that's unattractive can probably be changed.

I'm not sure how much I believe this. The "boring beta" might be single for a while, but I've seen just about every manner of guy have at least a couple of women interested in them in the time I knew the guys. For sure, the more you put into yourself, the more attractive you'll be. And there's more obvious attractors, like being really fit, being conventionally handsome, or just being charming and funny. But you have to be absolute fucking garbage for zero women to show interest. I'm not saying anyone here is garbage either, I'm saying it's not true that no women are interested in you ever and never will be, you just either don't see it, or you dismiss it because they aren't attractive enough for you to notice them, let alone care what they think.

No, it cannot.

If it's not related to your height (which technically can be changed nowadays) or race then it can.

ITT:
>how do I quit drugs, Jow Forums?
>it's very easy to get drugs. you just need this and this and that
>you won't take that shiny LSD pill if you stay at home. you need to get outside and talk to dealers
>see that coke line? lift for it NOW!

Guys who say they want to go MGTOW but can't are lying to themselves. If they really wanted to go MGTOW, they would. They think they need to give up because women don't want them, and we're telling them that they are probably already wanted and if they're not, they can be wanted with effort.

And even MGTOW guys still desire women sexually. I don't think there is any reliable way to stave off all sexual desire for women permanently, unless you can mutilate your fucking genitals in a way without making yourself unable to pee.

Well, I'm relatively fit and not hideous, but I've never had any women show interest in me. My standards are really low and if anything I'm hypersensitive to people around me, so if there was any way to find out, I feel like I'd know.

Just because they havent outwardly shown it in obvious ways doesn't mean they aren't interested. They can be really subtle about it, to the point of going undetected.

Do most guys really only get girlfriends by taking shots in the dark until one manages to hit? Seems insane.

Kind of. It's not a shot in the dark if you try to talk to her first to even see of shes interested. But you cant get too caught up in reading her either. You must always face potential rejection.

I wish I was this naïve still. You learn after 22 years it's best to just be alone

or you could instead gain some confidence and personality, go to the gym, go to conventions, whatever you're into. Unless you're genuinely ugly. but even ugly fat guys I've seen with ultra qt weeb girls

the reason you can't get laid is because you have a shitty personality. Also, sex is extremely overrated.

>the reason you can't get laid is because you have a shitty personality
You say that like I don't know. Doesn't make it any easier to fix.

Well I wish you all the best user. No user is going to be able to help you, you gotta catch it on your own. Good luck man but don't just give up and fall into the despair trap