Is this true?

Is this true?

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Nah, You could look like fried pig shit, but If you have the confidence that you look like Fabio then women are going to think that too, idk why. If you believe it, others will too.

Unironically yes. Some people are meant to be alone. It

I've been told I'm decent looking but I'm an autist and a subconsciously suicidal heavy drinker who enjoys chaos and violence. I didn't have any luck with girls until I changed. Not my destructive habits, I still have those. I just became completely unapologetic and open about what a wretch I am and now I'm doing much better with girls than before. It really is about confidence. Even if you still hate yourself, fake it and be surprised by the results.

You were born into the attractive category. It doesn't refer to just physical appearance. It's everything that goes into being yourself. Personality, confidence, hobbies/interest, wealth, etc. Your self is attractive. Some people's aren't

My last ex snuck me alcohol while we were at a party with her family, acted excited when I drove like a fucking maniac to get us to a movie on time, sided with me when I told her I hate my family and accepted the fact that I use psychedelics. She was a good Catholic girl too, always used to call me "insane" and a "godless heathen" but it didn't seem to turn her off. Had I not been born with a good face she wouldn't have even been interested.

Doesn't disprove what I've stated. You were born attractive in one way or another.

Nah cause you see ugly couples all the time your parents are probably ugly. Also being attractive is always relative.

Yeah, I don't think he's trying to disprove you, just attention whoring now.

No. See

Incel

If only attractive people are able to find a mate and procreate then why haven't unattractive people been bred out?

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You dont socialize much, do you?

Yes, it's true.
Source: Ugly dude LDARing

lrn2read, OP says that MEN have to be attractive
so women get to be ugly and pass on their ugly genes but, since men want sex so much more than women, women reject countless men until they get the best they can

You can be born with unattractive genes. Plenty of recessive shit that could manifest. Or simply a hiccup during pregnancy could turn an otherwise would-be attractive person into a non attractive. That's like saying why are there retards when retards don't usually breed

>It's not my fault girls don't like me, it's my genes ;__;
Sounds like the talk of a quitter to me.

Normies will say a bunch of different things in order to refute it, but it's 100% true.
But it's ok, everything is not for everyone. The same way some people are born into extreme poverty and die of hunger by age 10, some other people are born into wealthy societies but can never get a relationship, etc etc.

>Jow Forums: asking for reasons to give up on life
This is what's lame about this board, anything that isn't whining about how life is so unfair and how happiness is unobtainable for reasons outside your control is immediately put down to advice givers being "normies" and they "just don't understand what it's like to be born fat, unhygienic and supporting toxic attitudes towards society".

Just bugger off to /s4s/ or Jow Forums already.

Women evolved to be pretty. Ugly woman cant do shit to attract man. If man loses his boner when he sees her face, its over.

Men evolved to be the best. Doesnt matter if its in job, sport, game, anything. As long as you are man and you have self confidence stemming in from success in whatever activity you consider worth your time, women will always be willing to give you chance to ask them on date just like this user.

Tldr conventional attractivity for men is pointless, women arent attracted to men at all, they rather watch lesbian porn but they still date / sex / marry men for different reasons.

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Nope, I can assure that "fake it 'till you make it" works wonders if you are motivated enough, but in my experience tends to drain me too much to act like someone else. After a while I'll always return into being me, and I actually feel better

>Jow Forums: asking for reasons to keep trying when it's pointless
This is what's lame about this board, anything that isn't normie-pandering about how life is so good and how hapiness is obtainable when it's not is immediately put fown to advice givers being ''incels'' and they ''need to go back to Jow Forums''.

Just bugger off to reddit.

Attractive is highly subjective and changes person to person.
You're being a Moran.

It is true though. I can say I want to lift the world and physically carry it around, but that doesn't mean it's within the realm of possibilities

It's probably pointless to you because it's easier for you to blame anyone but yourself for all of your problems. Not even an incel you're just a fucking manchild if you think you're such a special snowflake that you deserve companionship without trying because being a cunt is just "who I am".

Plus the exposure effect can warp peoples view of you after a while

>making assumptions about someone's life based on a few posts
Top normies desu.
I'm actually a recovering shut-in. I didn't start thinking it was pointless untill I rejoined society and realised how fucked people like me truly are.
Sure it's my fault, never said otherwise, but let's not pretend anything can be done about it.

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If a person in a hospice wants solace, you don't tell them they're going to live a long, happy life. You comfort them until they die. I am an "incel" virgin. I don't want to be told
>it can get better
>just be (a version of yourself that isn't) yourself!
>confidence, bro
>just get laid!
You need to accept that yes, there are some people (men specifically, but both genders probably) that are inherently unattractive and will die virgins regardless of what they do.

Damn quads of truth

Be the best version of yourself though

The effort required to "fake it till you make it" would constitute attractiveness. Some people don't have it

When I was 22 I gave up.
If you are ugly you will never have a cute gf and always be alone.
Nobody will give you a minute of your time.

Sounds acurate.

biggest cope of all time

Same. I realized it at 15 or so. had a few waves of effort come over me, but look where that got me.
>22 and alone

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dude I know women in real life, most of them if not all of them have crushes on handsome guys in their social circles. They would fuck them without a second thought. Stop fucking coping

Confidence and effort are apart of being attractive, and both things have a marked capacity in an individual determined at birth.

No the fuck they dont.

>State that trying is pointless
>Gets called out for claiming that trying is pointless
>"You don't know me normie"

I know that you think trying is pointless and the only way that is possible is to think others have power over your happiness. Relying on a gf or something to make you happy isn't what life is about, that's just being needy.

I grew up my entire life thinking I was ugly and unattractive.

Recently I've started to realise I'm handsome to a lot of people but I don't have the social skills to back it up. I think we should teach everyone to assume they're handsome because social skills can be perfected, genetics can't, and they matter much more to shit like work and love.

If you believe in Science they do

Do you think Science works?

No, you were born with the capacity for socializing and motivation. This is a measure of your potential attractiveness. Some people lack these entirely

>crushes on handsome guys
Doesnt change the reality that even the ugliest men still manage to marry and have babies. Just walk in street and look at older married couples.

Majority of people are scared of being alone. They arent in relationships because they "love" their partner, its because they didnt manage to find anyones better.

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Just get some hobbies like a cooking class or matial arts to learn social skills

How do you know? Because my proof is myself. I lack the capacity for both of, and all of, these things. My potential attractiveness approaches zero

You need to understand that some people are not settle-able (meaning NO ONE will settle for them; they'd rather be alone than settle for them).

Confidence is a learned behavior jackass. I was insecure as fuck in high school, now im one of the most confident people you'll ever meet. I even teach this shit to others.

Married couples are not the same as just young couples. Young couples are much more genuine in reasons why they are together, ie general attraction. Where married couples are just women who have ticking clock nearing 30, where she is just losing value and ready to hop on a marriage with a man she wouldn't even give a second look 10 years before. Reality is often dissapointing my friend.

Let me guess, you compare yourself to others and base your self worth off their opinion, dont you?

Yeah, but then i see even literall cripples with women (who probably have savior complex) and even some hobos on street have hobo wife and i wonder how bad person you need to be to be undatable...

Thanks for proving my point. I never said they are with each other because love. But even the biggest uggos or autist easily manage to marry if they lower their standards a bit. Nobody is truly undatable.

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No. I compare myself to ideals I have created and match none of them

There is probably something in a cripple that makes up for unattractive situation. Either charisma, humor, something. Hobos are just regular people without money and probably have drug problems. Doesn't mean they can't be *inherently* attractive, or have potential attractiveness.

Which is still comparing yourself to others, and you didnt answer the second one

I base my self-worth on my own opinion of myself, which is that I am what I am, even though I fail to achieve any of my ideal forms. If you asking if I feel bad about myself when a roastie and her friends laugh at me as they pass on the street, then no. No I dont

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More or less. But There is a ton of stuff you can do to improve looks.

It's not just about looks

Youre still comparing yourself to others. Also if you dont care about the"roastie" then why are you here? This thread shouldnt have even gotten a second thought

no, it is
fuck off

Best regards,

ugly dude

ThisIts some real shit

First of all because I want to bring solace to people like me. Secondly because I made the comment op screencapped.
How is acknowledging that people laugh at me, or cross the street when I approach, or avoid eye contact, or whatever, comparing myself to others? Or is it that I'm giving myself a self-worth at that is the problem? Do I have a self worth?

Then how do fat lipped niggers still get pussy?

Muh BBC.

If you dont care what others think of you then why are you so much paying attention to all that meaningless bullshit?

How can not notice this shit when walking? I don't mindlessly listen to music while walking home, usually. I dont have any distractions. Maybe I'll start having verbal conversations with myself so as to distract my mind from the clearly visible phenomenon around me.

Imagine being so narcissistic that you believe every action around you is in response to your presence.

Simply noticing it is one thing. Ficating on it is another. Thats the shit you see then shrug it off, not base your existence on.

This. Hes a faggot

Oh. I see. I mean, when I'm literally the only other person on a sidewalk for several hundred feet in all directions, and a group of people laugh the moment I pass them, I have to register that somehow. I understand I should just rip my eyes and ears out so as to not ever notice shit going around me, but still

But I literally don't. I accept it as a character feature. I am myself, and myself scares others or something. I appreciate myself because it's all I have. I have a value of 1 (one) "myself" and that's it

So your identity is 'the guy who scares people' then

No, it's "me," and "me" (I) just happens to scare people. I don't go out of my way to scare or not scare people, it's just a byproduct of me being myself and I guess it's a crime to notice this at all. I'm not placing any value in their reactions to me. If this was a one time occurrence then sure, I'd be a little confused and worried. I'd probably care. But if after 10+ years of the same shit while being the same person, no, I no longer care, if I ever did.

>I'm black, any time a white person does something negative near or to me, it's because they're racist

Same level of self centered delusion and rampant confirmation bias.

So your identity is 'the guy who happens to scare people' then

No, but by virtue of being myself I scare people. My identity is myself and it scares people. I don't value myself any more or less because I scare people.
The difference is I don't go around complaining that people should put up with my presence and theft.

You just let yourself ruin your own life instead. How admirable.

Ruin is relative and implies my life would turn out any differently than it will

You said no, then contradicted yourself right after.

Ok, my bad. I misunderstood what you were saying. Yes, I guess a part of my identity is that I happen to scare people.

Also, theft? Tf you goin on about?

Well, I don't steal. But blacks usually say criticizing their rampant thievery Is racist

Okay but are you actually scary?

Oh youre black?

No.
I don't know or care. People's reactions towards me generally indicate that, but I'm not those people so I can't say.

Yet it bothers you.

But it doesn't. I notice it. It doesn't bother me. What part of this are you missing?

Tell me in full detail what you think confidence means

That's a good question. Probably something along the lines of being comfortable with/in a topic to the point of being able to expect realistic outcomes, solely by virtue of your competence in that topic

Its loving yourself and placing yourself first. You base your view of yourself solely off of what you think, not from any input at all whatsoever from outside sources such as 'i scare people'.

I gotta wonder if it's the Russians sitting around in English online communities and demoralizing and dumbing down our men.

Ok, but I'm not basing my view of myself on people. I'm just noticing something. As I said before, you seem to be implying I can only have inner worth if I have no sensual input. If I'm not allowed to notice people act in certain ways, then yes, I am worthless. I do love myself, and do put myself first. We're just going in circles, either because one misunderstands the other, or because you refuse to believe that some people are inherently unattractive.

>muh
Is this ironic or not? I honestly can't tell if people honestly think Russians are some sort of all encompassing and omnipotent force or if it's a meme.

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Only low IQ incels would believe that. Nearly everyone can be attractive to someone. A large part of attractiveness is something you work on, not something you ate born with. If you choose to be a basement-dwelling shut in eating only tendies it's your own fault you made yourself unattractive.

You acknowledged that
>nearly everyone can be
>nearly everyone
>nearly
So, the original comment was noting the distinction between the "nearly everyone" and the rest. Yes, some people are inherently unattractive no matter what they do and will die alone never having loved or been loved by anyone else but themselves

No because each woman has her own taste.

Unless you have a physical deformity you are probably not part of that category.

Sigh.

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It goes so much deeper than physical appearance, my dude. Did you read the thread at all?

Perhaps, but keep in mind that for every ugly guy, there is an ugly girl.