ITT: Ask the Opposite Gender Anything

If you're a salesman, and you need to sell your product, what's it say about you and your product if you need anonymous, random input just to put the thing off the shelf?

What I'd suggest, Anonymous, is that you work more toward the kind of thing you'd be happy to market and sell (so-to-speak! do not prostitute!). It's no good if you're so full of doubt out the gates.
What do you think would make a more reliable platform for you to sell from? Surely you have some idea of something you WOULD say, if you only COULD.

Important question: how do I indirectly ask a girl if they like me? I'm good friends with a girl who is super nice and loves to hang out with me, and I've tried flirting with her a few times before but I honestly can't tell if she's just being super nice or actually interested in me.

Is there any way to ask a girl if they like you indirectly, without giving it away that you like them as more than a friend? I don't think I know her enough though to ask her flat out. I fear asking her directly could drive her away and ruin our friendship.

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>what's it say about you and your product if you need anonymous, random input just to put the thing off the shelf?
This isn't a normal product. It is a very broad product that I don't know how to approach as a sell.
The internet was also a hard sell and you don't know what you're talking about or what I'm asking for and seriously frustrating me with this self-help book mentality.
I am sure I'm marketable, I'm just confused about how to do that in this way.

And what's with the personal insult you absolute piece of shit?

There's no safe way to ask. Do it or not.

How attractive is it for a guy to have drive, even though the guy is younger and...just a different education field. My friend said that's good as well, so what do you gals say here?

Not that user, but I'm wondering about this sort of thing too.

The problem then though is are you risking the friendship by asking that?

Like yeah I'm asking Jow Forums because I figure, first off, that a lot of people have done this before.
Second off, because I want to get shit done and Jow Forums is right here. Given the first reason, I don't see what I'm doing wrong.

Drive? As in ambitious?
That’s very good, asking as you got time for downtime and hobbies too.
I don’t care if a man have a great career and money if we don’t get to enjoy it together.

Yes! That kind of drive.

We all have doubts but in my personal opinion, you should only ask a woman out if you really do like them. It's worth losing the friendship and suffering potential rejection if you love them.

In today’s neet hellhole, having drive is very attractive.

But I don't fucking want to lose a friendship.
Its at least not inevitable?...

Girls: Would you date a guy who is essentially a bisexual virgin?

I like both genders, but I like women a bit more. But as far as relationships & sexual encounters go, I've had terrible luck with women. Would you date a guy, knowing he has only fucked/dated other guys, and you would be his first real woman?

FUCK IT I'M LOOKING UP A DATING COUCH WITH A COUNSELING CERTIFICATE

I'M DONE WITH THE ABSOLUTE PURGATORY OF RELATIONSHIP OR DATING ADVICE THAT IS Jow Forums AND REDDIT.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR DAYS. DAYS IF NOT WEEKS AND ALL IT FUCKING IS IS DISTRACTION.
I'M DONE. I'M FUCKING DONE.

Reposting because apparently last thread died as I posted this

>like girl at work
>not same departments
>i see her every few days at least
>we talk a lot
>like her more
>get jealous when she hangs out with other guys
>dont want to ask her out because afraid to get rejected at work
Whats a good solution here?

posted in the last thread about a female coworker who seemed to be throwing signals at me. I've never introduced myself, but she knows me and during my last shift she greeted me for the first time (saying 'Hi!' in a happy tone).

How should I go about introducing myself next time I see her? I think she's beautiful, but I can only look at the ground when we pass. I know it's silly, because she always sees me working hard and I'm confident she doesn't find me ugly

>straight/bi
>some LGBT thing
>Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender
>Bisexual
>Straight/Bi

big hmmm

It's an either or question. Is she a lover or a friend? Anyway you are right. Best thing is to form your own experience even well intentioned advice will be subverted by the reader

I'm not going to type out the whole thing.
For the purpose of that poll, bisexual cisgender people of one gender and sex who are born that way etc etc and straights that are are the same because they have interest in the opposite gender. This thread is about asking the opposite gender that is attracted to your gender anything.

The poll is supposed to test the ratio of advice, basically.

Also bisexuals aren't always a minority, depending on how you define a bisexual.
...Though given the number of people in the otherwise LGBTQ+ minority bracket, I'm thinking I might want to make a new poll with more categories. I wasn't sure if I needed to do that so I was going to test with just a blanket category, but now I'm seeing these percentages, yeah maybe I'll redo the poll at some point.
Maybe I should of a 'number polled' goal.

>Best thing is to form your own experience
I guess that's the long and short of it...
So, I guess I have to try out [that thing I was gonna do].

Not specifically for being a musician. You do get points for having an interesting hobby. If you are an artistic wash-up with no real job, however...

don't date coworkers

How 2 get gf more interested in going camping? It's a hobby I'd love to share with her but she's deadset against it.

that's not a good snapshot of the whole board though, even accounting for trolling

How do I show a woman I am interested in them without bothering them?
The only place I usually meet people around small town here is when people are busy shopping and rather be left to their own devices.
Since this place is small though I have a good chance to meet people again so I want to be able to make and impression so maybe I can talk an get to know a lady later down the line when its a better time and/or place.

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>Girls: Would you date a guy who is essentially a bisexual virgin?
Obviously. This is like... 90% of all guys, most are just afraid to admit it, and delude themselves into thinking otherwise.
>I like both genders, but I like women a bit more. But as far as relationships & sexual encounters go, I've had terrible luck with women. Would you date a guy, knowing he has only fucked/dated other guys, and you would be his first real woman?
Eh, personally I'm not fond of people with random sexual encounters, and it is beginning to sound like to vastly different situations. Either you are a virgin, or you have fucked someone.

Either gender can answer this:

How do I get rid of feeling disappointed when things don't work out with someone I just met?

The cute girl in my class turned out to have a boyfriend and this is after I got her number. It turns out the day I met her, sometime after class, she got in a relationship. I know this because my teacher was asking questions on the first day of class as a way of being like, do you work, go to school, have a relationship. As a way of giving an example of how much we have on our plate. She didn't raise her hand at the relationship part. So we were talking and I felt like we vibed really well. Even through text. I know I don't know her super well, it just sucks that I was kinda excited for this because it was going well. So I'm just disappointed and not trying to let it get to me. But how do I not get this way. Whenever I do I feel like some stupid "nice guy" redditor who flips out when a girl rejects him. I didn't flip out and I still talk with her, but I don't like that underlying feeling of disappointment.

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I would not be surprised if there indeed is a large category of non-straights here, simple due to the nature of this place.

I put myself in the straight/bi bracket, despite being more gay than straight. I would date either gender if I liked the person enough, so it's kind of a toss up.

How to not think less of yourself for being rejected?

>We wanted different things in life, it wouldn't have worked out anyway
Sometimes it is true, after all. If the other person doesn't want to settle down yet, regardless of the reason, then it wouldn't work out anyway.

It will often be a blatant lie, but as long as you can convince yourself otherwise, it's all good.

Am I overreacting if i got a bit annoyed that my gf joined a new DnD group (run by her mate's boyfriend) and she or the random bf guy didn't even think to invite me?

Inb4 'you are a cuck'. My gf and i have a strong relationship and no my gf and this other guy are not banging.

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>Chat online with someone
>Become pretty good friends, although we with really share too much personal stuff.
>Accident happened nearby that was all over the local newspapers and reporting
>He talks briefly about it, and I let slip that it was right around the corner of where I live
>Turns out he lives literally 15 minutes walk away from me
>I have never told him my gender, because he is that type of person who instantly grow sweet and nauseating whenever he learns another player in video games is a girl, regardless of how he acted previously, and I specifically wanted to avoid that.
How do I handle this without him getting weird? Or is that a lost cause?

I have... issues that means I really don't want to be dependant on another human being right now, and I just fear this will inevitably end in something bad, either because I'll lose a valuable friend, or worse.

He still doesn't know. I could probably try to dress up super manly, and hope he thinks I'm a guy or a weird transgender person, but I don't want to cut my hair, and I don't exactly look like a guy in the first place, so it will probably be hard to pull off.

Just ask instead of being dramatic about it. Could be they assumed you weren't interested.

I would also sincerely doubt she would sleep with a friends boyfriend. So it's probably nothing to fuss over.

I'm confused, why would he have to know you're a girl? Did you arrange a meet up?

He *really* wants to meet, and has already talked about having a gaming weekend where we game all night at his place.

He is a bit of a lonely type. So far I have been able to at least hold off for now, due to being overworked and with family events during the next two weekends, but I know I am just holding it off at this point. I'll either have to tell a friend that I don't want to meet him at all, or meet up with him. I don't really have any other options, do I?

>I don't really have any other options, do I?
Not really. Do it or don't. Dodging it for too long will tank the friendship anyway. At least giving him a flat out rejection might save it.

Be upfront, my man. Tell him that you're a girl but you don't want that the change the friendship and that you're not ready to meet up.

HORSE GIRLS

Why y'all so weird and obsessed with your horses?

yeah, I said to her 'this is not about me having a problem with you going off to do your own activities - it was more just the 'not even asking if i might want to come' thing that got to me.

I said this and she was just like 'oh i guess [mate's bf] didn't mean to make you feel excluded' . I was just like 'well, he's succeeded'

yes you're overreacting

>Dodging it for too long will tank the friendship anyway.
Yeah probably... It does seem sketchy to keep prolonging it when we live to close together, now that I think about it.
>At least giving him a flat out rejection might save it.
I thought most guys hate having female friends they don't have a chance with?

>and that you're not ready to meet up
Hmm.. might not be a bad idea to try this approach, but hopefully he won't take it the wrong way.

It's a hobby. I could say the same for why so many guys are so obsessed with looking ripped or their computer, or sport, or whatever.

I can't tell if a girl is giving or signaling hints of any kind, should I tell this to my date or will this just make dating impossible?

That's... causing drama.

Just ask if you can join if you want to. If you don't, leave it alone and let her have fun. No reason to make a big problem out of this. They made a wrong assumption, mistakes happen.

>might not be a bad idea to try this approach
Just make sure you word it right. Make sure you let him know you still wanna be friends, but you're not ready to meet up yet.

>I thought most guys hate having female friends they don't have a chance with?
Some do I guess. The type of guy who turns into a lickspittle when he finds out you're a girl is probably one of those types actually.

>I thought most guys hate having female friends they don't have a chance with?
Depends on the guy. I have female friends I'm super close with but have no chance with. But I care about them a lot and I value that over fucking them or whatever.

"There are no girls on the internet", is a meme that basically means "I can't fuck you, so it doesn't matter what gender you are".

This guy acts like he has even a snowball's chance in hell of getting with a random player in a random game, just because the player claims to be a girl, with no further proof needed. You are fucked no matter what you do at this point, because he'll likely go full Whiteknight Nice Guy on you, until you actually sleep with him.

You really have no good option other than hope that his act towards online women is just that - an act. Lately I've met some guys who do it, simply because the community in a lot of games are super hostile towards women, so they do it just to even it out a bit. It's probably a sad chance, but it's better than nothing.

Just be very careful about how you meet up with him. Doing an all-nighter at his place is basically asking him to rape you, so make sure you are 100% sure you can trust him before you do anything too private with him.

I'll try. I bought myself some time, so I have some time to formulate myself properly. Maybe even do a video call to make it obvious I'm not just joking around.

Yeah, that's my greatest worry here. It's strange, because he is in his mid 20s and lives on his own, I thought it was just basement dwellers who acting this way towards online people.

Hmm... Could hope that's the case here, but we haven't talked enough about personal stuff to make me feel like he would value our friendship over that. Mostly because of how he normally acts towards "girlz" online.

I'm going to assume there at least is a chance that he isn't this bad in real life. I don't want to write if off before at least giving it a chance.
>Just be very careful about how you meet up with him. Doing an all-nighter at his place is basically asking him to rape you, so make sure you are 100% sure you can trust him before you do anything too private with him.
That's a very cynical view... but I guess it wouldn't hurt to at least veer on the safe side here.

>That's a very cynical view
I think it's cynical to claim he'd rape you but going over to a guy's house and staying all night has all kinds of subtext that you may not be meaning to convey. Don't go to a guy's house for the night unless you want to sleep with him.

> I thought it was just basement dwellers who acting this way towards online people.
I know several dudes who are reasonably successful in terms of money and career and socialising who will bust out the fedora if a girl so much as smiles at them. It's not even conscious.

>Mostly because of how he normally acts towards "girlz" online.
That's the most worrying. Figure out what you want to do. If you feel like it's not the best and he may not react well, I'd consider maybe reevaluating the friendship or something. If he can't respect you because you're a girl, then he's a pretty shitty friend.

>That's a very cynical view...
Take it from someone who Has personally burned on that pyre: it happens. You may not end in that situation, but I would strongly advice against doing anything until you are absolutely 100% sure it's alright.

I had a friend I trusted 100%. No problems at first, I wasn't interested in dating at all, and he had a girlfriend at first. We became very close, and helped each other a lot. Things happened, his girlfriend cheated, and I invited him over to stay at my apartment on a mattress in my livingroom, so he had a place to sleep while he found a new place to live. I got raped on the second night, woken up from my sleep. Never saw it coming, and I wasn't given a choice.

These kinds of guys are unstable, but not to the point where you necessarily knows it before it's too late. So seriously: be extremely careful.

>dating ex-gf again for about 2 months, or something like that
>at first she was like "don't get your hopes up"
>now we've made out at a mutual friends house party
>kissing good bye whenever she drives me home
>sex ofc too

just got home from her place
i asked her if she had to leave early in the morning, she told me
> i have an appointment
i ask her what she's doing
>i'm going to see a buddy
and after some prying she tells me she's seeing a close male friend of hers, for breakfast...
instead of telling me outright "oh i'm meeting up with xyz", she had to put it under a layer of covering up
of course she went a little mad, she didn't tell me because she didn't want me to get bad thoughts
at the same time though she wouldn't rub it under my nose if she's meeting up with someone

like, what the fuck?
she took her gym back as we were going "yeah i might do some sport later"
oh and they haven't decided where they'll eat so they are actually meeting up, not "just for breakfast"

you're about to get cucked

am i or is this just a shit test

>dating ex-gf again for about 2 months, or something like that
>>at first she was like "don't get your hopes up"
So... You are literally just having a bit of FwB fun, was outright told this, and you are only now realizing this isn't an exclusive thing...?

well, she did tell me that at first but her actions have gone from "just fwb" to way more than that
she didn't kiss me goodbye at first, or even when we're at a party
she talked with her mother about seeing me again and some of her friends
she planned a 3 day trip on my birthday, in march
we're going on a trip next weekend, to a spa and brunching
that's nothing you do with a fwb... imo

>suddenly adding a ton of information vital to giving advice on the situation
You literally went from saying it was a FwB to You having tons of plans and things going together. Fuck off.

i never said that we're fwb...?

Protip: make these things clear in your first post.

Actual advice: either she isn't going exclusive with you just yet, or she got a friend and knows you would likely throw a fit if you found out.

As someone who has a male, purely platonic friend, I know that feeling of dread, having to tell someone I am dating that I have a long time guy friend I spend time with occasionally. There is just no good way to break it, and so many guys are way too insecure to handle it.

Confront her if you have to, make sure to properly sit her down and figure out if this is a friend or a sex buddy, and figure out with yourself if this is okay or not. If you can't be okay with it, break it off. Don't be a child and go the "him or me" route, it will forever tarnish the relationship.

Besides, you already broke up once. This almost assuredly won't work out either.

>at first she was like "don't get your hopes up"
>>now we've made out at a mutual friends house party
That was certainly implied in your first post, you just assumed these lines meant more than they actually do.

Your second post paints an entirely different picture, and basically turns it from a bit of fooling around, to a serious relationship already brewing.

>I had a friend I trusted 100%. No problems at first, I wasn't interested in dating at all, and he had a girlfriend at first. We became very close, and helped each other a lot. Things happened, his girlfriend cheated, and I invited him over to stay at my apartment on a mattress in my livingroom, so he had a place to sleep while he found a new place to live. I got raped on the second night, woken up from my sleep. Never saw it coming, and I wasn't given a choice.

Nani the absolute fuck?

It still blows my mind that there are dudes who do this kind of shit.

i know that guy, i know that she has a lot of male friends and i don't have a problem with that
the problem is, the way she was hideing it, not saying outright who she's seeing

for example, last week she told me she didn't have any time, i asked what her plans were and she told me she was meeting some other guy friend, an ex of hers from years and years ago, no problem with that

>sit her down and figure out if this is a friend or a sex buddy,
how would i go on about this without throwing a fit?
she was a bit mad yesterday, telling me she didn't want me to think bad about it

i guess i should've mentioned it yeah

>i never said that we're fwb...?
>don't get your hopes up for a relationship. We can kiss and fuck though
Textbook fwb.

Just clarify with her if you are exclusive or not. More often than not, asking from your side is better than accusing her. If she responds poorly to you asking if you two are exclusive, with the implied idea that you might want to fuck around, she likely isn't sleeping with someone else.

>Textbook fwb.
making plans months in advance?
showing people, mutual friends, that there's something going on?
kissing goodbye in public?
> If she responds poorly
wouldn't that suggest she's sleeping around?

>I know that feeling of dread
Much easier to come clean than giving the guy some serious food for thoughts though.

>the problem is, the way she was hideing it, not saying outright who she's seeing
Again, it's a sensitive topic. It quickly gets awkward, and you are afraid of making it come out wrong, which makes it come out worse, ironically.

>how would i go on about this without throwing a fit?
>she was a bit mad yesterday, telling me she didn't want me to think bad about it
I'm assuming you are adults, so sit her down, amd have a serious talk about your relationship. No assumptions, just go back on forth on where you are, where you want to go, and whether or not you are exclusive. Tell her to be honest, and be honest yourself, and go through the scenario that she might be sleeping with someone else at the moment, thinking you are still not exclusive. Even if she isn't, you need to be sure of how you would want to react, and whether it would be a dealbreaker to you or not.

Different people different strokes. We can't tell you how to feel about the situation.

>wouldn't that suggest she's sleeping around?
More often than not, it would be a relief if you asked her if you were allowed to see other people, and she was already doing that. Gives her an excuse when you later find out she is indeed sleeping around.

If she reacts poorly, she likely hates the idea, and wouldn't think to do it herself.

If course, there are the sociopaths who thinks it's fine for them to cheat, but not their partner. But those tend to be men, because or that " master key" analogy that certain men likes to being up.

And better for both to get it out of the way early. No point hiding it to have it break you apart later down the line.

But I just know how hard it is from experience. I usually find a good excuse to point it out early, for both of our sakes, but it definitely isn't getting easier.

reading your post kinda calms me down a bit, thinking this might just be exactly like you're saying
how'd i even word it without putting her in the defense
i'm fine with him being just a friend, her having male friends, no problem
but if they're fucking or have fucked in the last like 2 months we were rekindling things, i'd be gone

also, i find it weird that she hasn't asked me a single time if i'm seeing someone else or even sleeping with someone else

hmm i see, i'll sit her down and ask her, exclusivity is a pretty big deal for me
since we're having unprotected sex the last like 3,4 weeks now

He claimed he thought I wanted it, despite having told him multiple times this was purely a friendly gesture, I had closed the door to my bedroom and slept in a pyjamas, to ensure I gave no wrong hints. And he silenced me with a hand, and forcefully held me down, instead of at least *trying* to give me an option of saying no. And he mysteriously left right afterwards, in the middle of the night.

It's pretty sick. I still can't understand how these kinds of people rationalize this. The scariest part for me is that he literally showed no signs of this up until this point.

It's making it pretty hard to trust guys, unless I already know I want to have sex with them.

I'm reading this, and all I can think is
>what if you had wanted it
I don't think it would have mattered how much I liked the guy, this would never have been okay. I could have been gushing at the thought of him, and masturbated daily to fantasies involving him, and I would still not have been okay with this.

How do i get a gf?

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Jesus user that sucks.

Don't be a namefag.

What is the general consensus on skelly bois?

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They're pretty cute honestly

Cute. Usually adds a point or two to their appearance for me, as long as they aren't outright creepy looking due to makeup or awful wardrobe choices.

Where do I find nerdy dudes outside of my social circle who are willing to interact with a rando? I go to a local gaming cafe and whilst the fellas are nice enough, they're difficult to coax into conversations even when I'm playing against them. I figure I'm looking in the wrong place. Any advice?

So what you're looking for is guys with nerdy interests but who are also confident enough to talk to you?

Yeah you're looking in the wrong place.

Well, confident enough to respond to conversations. I was only looking there because I enjoy going there to play games. Where would you recommend finding nerdy guys who want to talk if it's not a communal games area?

Wtf brooooo, eat some food my nigga are you from Yemen?

Did you report him to the police?

No idea. The only nerds I'm friends with are like you're describing and they wouldn't really know how to talk to you.

Just talk to normal dudes in normal places. Men tend to run nerdier than girls on average.

Nah, I'm not into normal dudes. I run far nerdier than the average guy and everyone wants a cute nerd girl until they realise what that actually means and then want her not to be a nerd any more.

I'm not really fussed if they don't know how to talk to me, I just want people willing to respond. I thought I was being an annoying nightmare for a while before one of the other fellas clued me in.

Visit other cafes? There must be some well-adjusted guy sitting in one of them who likes to talk to girls.

Look for the guys who pay attention to how they dress.

There aren't really any other ones near by. Those gentlemen tend to already have partners, but I will keep an eye out, thank you.