How do i lose my virginity as a nice guy? Im a gentleman. I like reading WW2 history and playing vidya. My age is 26

>Do you have any OTHER hobbies? Preferably more social ones?
>You don't sound like a very interesting person, which is why you're still a virgin.
So much for being yourself.

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"Just be yourself" is a Jow Forums meme that nobody in the real world gives, except to make fun of you.

"Being yourself" is what most people should stop doing in public.

This. I could be so invested in something and write a fucking dissertation on it simply because I like it and then the normalfags would say
>I mean, that's great and all, but you're not interesting in a way that women like
Fuck them, fuck women, fuck anyone who says "just be yourself" unironically, fuck the confidence posters, fuck this society.
Just be yourself
>just be yourself
>just
Be
>yourself
>be
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JUST BE YOURSELF HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHA

>nobody in the real world gives
Yes, they do. Mostly because they have stellar, interesting personalities by default; and are likely in the company of those that do (people tend to gravitate towards those similar to them). So "be yourself" works in their case -- but leaves them oblivious to the fact it doesn't work for everyone.

If you think you are nothing more than history and videogames, well, I guess being a virgin is the least of your concerns.

you sound like you simply lack confidence and assertiveness
being a nice guy is good, but sometimes girls just want the D
also not only riajuus aren't interested in that sort of thing, we are more than just our hobbies
there's nothing wrong with being yourself, but once in a while you need to put in a mask to blend in. that's what everyone does
save beeingurself for family and friends

>So much for being yourself.

"Being yourself" is not a guarantee to get laid. If "being myself" means I never leave the house, I won't meet girls, right? If being myself means I'm an outspoken woman hater, with no job, and that doesn't bathe, then I won't get laid much, right?

"Being yourself" means not making up a persona, because those don't last. It's not a promise anyone can get laid magically.

>nice guy
>gentleman
>ww2

somehow i don't think you look good or have any social skills.

>there's nothing wrong with being yourself
Even if you're a child molester? Or an outspoken racist?

also from the picture he posted. I think he's just really really good at baiting. OP if you're trolling that's a very potent post sir you know what you're doing you're gonna piss a lot of people off

For what it's worth I used to have a hard time with girls. Skinny, nerdy, not all that attractive, girls would call me 'funny'. You know, the perfect friendzone target.
In 2012 I said fuck it and cut my hair into the most ridiculous mullet and automatically started taking shit a lot less seriously.
I got more pussy rocking that ugly-ass mullet in one year than any other time in my life. Girls would approach me in ways I had never experienced before. They fuckin' loved the mullet. Ultimate icebreaker. I think it was a confidence thing. I even got hit on by dudes telling me how sexy it was.
Everyone's situation is unique but for me all it took was a ridiculous haircut

brb getting a mullet

Is it only thotbait or can I get an LTR that way

I came out of it with one. Started dating same year I rocked the mullet. She runs a successful restaurant, cooks me steaks, and occasionally digs me for cutting it off.
Not trying to brag or anything. I was in the hole for a while and I come here to tell you there's always a way out.

Basically it involves being yourself, and then being confident, but not confident in the things that interest you, which, ironically, are the things that make you yourself, because those things that make you yourself are not interesting, and to be confident in things that are not your interests is attractive, and attractiveness is determined by confidence and how interesting you are, and how interesting you are is partiall hinged on your physical appearance but also you social ability and personality, so therefore being yourself is not enough because you are not any of the things listed above.

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inb4reddit, I just thought this was good enough to screencap it.

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I wish I didn't mess up the "partially."
But, this is the result of me seeing the same shit over and over again and finally giving a go at formalizing all the "advice" that's posted here. And I'd be harder pressed to find any normie that disagrees with it

No

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You do know you can just edit the post HTML before you cap it right ?

I have satisfied my autism
thanks friend

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I'd rather have the original, warts and all, than inauthentic edited versions.

are you saying that we simply have to hide our demons until they can't withstand the pressure instead of facing them? I disagree. seeking help and self-improvement also means being yourself

Actual nice guys don't label themselves as nice guys and gentlemen.
"Nice guys" who are passive aggressive dicks do that

Why dont you use the tinder dawg?

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Oh look, it's this shitty strawman again.

If you look like that you're not a gentleman, sorry.

He's kind of right, though (nice get btw).

If you're a truly kind, nice, or generally good person, it would come across without you having to claim it. Those are labels you earn, not bestow upon you.

Saying you're a "nice guy" when a girl asks you do describe yourself is like pussy kryptonite

Satanic get wasted on such a retarded incel post. He's 100% right, but because it triggered you and made you mad because he describes you, you call it strawman.

Nice guys, and same goes for smart guys. You never hear actually intelligent people say they are smart. Just like you don't hear actually nice people say they are nice.

He asked how he should approach getting women since hes probably heard that women don't like nice guys. That may or may not be true depending on your definition of nice guy. But the basis of your argument is...well there is none. It doesnt actually logically make sense to say you can't say you're a nice guy and also have it come through in your actions

You're one of those "nice guys"

Satan is nice and just misunderstood. Really!

Girls are really stupid. They made calling yourself something positive a negative thing.

No. This is because of angry lying incels. They are the biggest jerks and assholes there are, but they insist they are "nice guys".

Nope.

Plenty of them don't. A lot of them insist they're actually horrible people who don't deserve to be loved. PS not everything you don't like is an incel.

What about nice guys who are nice guys?

Ok, 2 questions.

1. Which country are you from?

2. What is you moral stance on prostitution and/or escorts ?

If nice is your only characteristic, you're in bad shape. Most people are pretty nice.

They don't go around saying they're nice guys.

What you described is robots or volcels. Incels insist they are nice, or say it's the fault of women that they turned into violent psychopaths. Every incel always says he deserves to be loved for who he is.

It does make sense, since what constitutes as a nice/good person is their impact and whether their actions actually sync up with niceness/goodness. Calling yourself either means absolutely nothing if your actions and impact are contrary; it's just giving yourself a label with none of its meaning. In order for this to be valid, you have to genuinely be a nice/good person, even if you don't qualify yourself as one or go out of your way to claim it. You just show it; nothing more. If you were truly a good/nice person, you show it. You act like that person -- not say you are. And you do whatever it is that kind of person does; not sheerly think you are. That's how it usually works. If you were genuinely a good/nice person, it would come through without you having to say it. If you were truly such a person, people would recognise it regardless. People would repute you for it, without you having to make any claims for it. You just simply are a nice/good person. And if that's the case, you wouldn't have to mention it. And if you have to mention it, it casts a doubt on you; as it does with a lot of "nice guys."

Plus,
>It doesnt actually logically make sense to say you can't say you're a nice guy and also have it come through in your actions
this *is* logic. It's simple show-don't-tell. Showing is for more effective and valuable; telling diminishes it.

It kind of is a negative thing, since people always apply positive traits to themselves even when they're anything but. Everyone always thinks they're the good guys. Having to call yourself one is simply dishonest.

It's because everyone thinks they're nice/better than what reality usually ends up saying; incels are no different. Plus, I'm not entirely sure calling them liars is accurate -- since that implies they're deliberately being deceptive, rather than genuinely believing their bullshit.

>nice guy
>Im a gentleman
You find a good woman and court her, marry her, and then have sex on your wedding night. A "gentleman" does not waste time on whores and degeneracy.

>saying you're a good person means nothing

Yeah you can believe it or not. It alone doesn't mean you have to believe it until they prove it. It also doesn't automatically make them bad people.

>everyone thinks they're nice
Probably more like, people such as yourself projecting their "not niceness" onto everyone else. That's what your whole rant sounds like.

>inb4 you're an incel too
Literally multiple people have said I am a good or great guy, my last GF said that's literally what made her attracted to me. But you can believe what you want I guess.

I personally pick up girls by being nice, yet act uninterested and poke fun at them from time to time. I will talk to them for a day or 2 straight then ghost them for a few more. If they get upset at you for not talking to them you’re in. Just play it off, you now know they wanna talk to you, and they thought about you while you ignored them. Use this moment to apologize and plan a date, you’re nice remember? I recommend a movie. Less talking is needed, but at the same time your spending time together and she is getting comfortable being with you in person. Give her soft smiles when you do talk to her, you’re a nice guy remember? Pick a movie your interested in, this is a power play. Girls like to be dominanted don’t have her make decisions, that’s unattractive don’t listen to the femtards. You pay for her movie of course, you’re a nice guy remember? You will buy the drinks, but only get a large popcorn to share, she’s not your girlfriend yet, your not buying her them fucking 15 dollar nachos. But you will share your popcorn because your a nice guy remember? The only thing you need to be thinking about during this movie is getting her back to your place, if you can do this you have basically already gotten laid. It’s best to Just tell her you want her to stay at your place, confidence. If she agrees to this, now you buy her food. Just go to a place to get yourself something and ask her what she wants, if she says nothing just get her whatever you order. She’ll be hungry after sex. When you get to your place, flip on the tv instantly and hand her the remote tell her to pic what ever she wants to watch. It’s donsnt matter and she knows it. Leave her in the room, and go to the bathroom, kitchen, anywhere. Just leave her there for like 30-40 seconds. When you come back confidently sit right next to her and put your arm around her shoulders. She will lean into you, then you put your hand on her head. Play with her hair, rub her arm.
>tbc

>cont
And just watch what ever it is she put on. If you like it praise her for having good taste, if you don’t poke fun at her in a playful way, what ever you say pull her body closer to yours and look at her in the yes. If you gaze locks and you stare quietly at each or for a second start kissing her. If not that’s fine, just go back to watching the tv, and put the covers over you two. Start rubbing down to the swell of her back short after. And lay your head against hers. Make your rubs a little deeper like your grabbing at her but not quite, she will be receptive towards it and come in ever closer to your body. This is when you look at her, wait for her to look at you. Then put your fingers under her chin to tilt her head up and star kissing her. You want to pull her on top of you while your kissing. Rub all up and done her back, grab her ass, hold the back of your head. After about 40 secs to a minute. Take off her shirt, then her bra don’t be afraid to have her do it if you need to, she’ll think it’s cute. Then okay with her tits, kiss her, suck on her nipples have some fun. Then start taking off your pants, she’ll most likely take of hers. Of not even batter. You roll her over, get on top, kiss down her body, then take her pants off for her. At this point I would hope you know that to do next.

>Yeah you can believe it or not.
It's not about personal belief, but rather claim and action are two vastly different things, where one does not inherently begets the other. You're not exactly Person X just because you think you are.

>It alone doesn't mean you have to believe it until they prove it.
It's generally ill-advised to believe anything without conclusive proof.

>It also doesn't automatically make them bad people.
That would be playing into false dichotomy, otherwise. But to claim to be a good person, but fail to do anything to warrant it, is arguably worse. In fact, those who do bad things with the best of intentions are often worse than those who are deliberately bad people.

>Probably more like, people such as yourself projecting their "not niceness" onto everyone else. That's what your whole rant sounds like.
Tu quoque and general ad hominem. And not the argument of a presumed nice guy.

>Literally multiple people have said I am a good or great guy
Confirmation bias and echo chamber. Those in a group will typically rebuff and make positive claims of their friends, families, and loved ones; even the reality is contrary. Terrorists, for examples, are usually in a groups that validate and rebuff their abhorrent actions; they also have regular lives and families outside of their terrorism -- but are still terrorists nonetheless.

>my last GF said that's literally what made her attracted to me.
It's not uncommon for partners to project positive traits on someone who doesn't actually match up with it. In abusive relationships, that's pretty common.

>But you can believe what you want I guess.
Again, tu quoque. You can believe what you want as well, but that doesn't make it a fact-based reality.

>You're wrong because I say you are and anyone or anything who disagrees is some logical fallacy or

Lol you just said you prove to be nice though actions, and when I said others have said I'm a good person - their observation, not mine - its confirmation bias. I'm not arguing this with you, keep thinking everyone is a horrible person unless you disagree. I'm sure God himself appointed you as the sole arbiter on who is nice and who isnt. Have a "nice" day. ;^)

>You're wrong because I say you are and anyone or anything who disagrees is some logical fallacy or
Care to point out where that's said?

>Lol you just said you prove to be nice though actions
You do.

>and when I said others have said I'm a good person - their observation, not mine - its confirmation bias.
It is, since claims, whether by you or others, isn't necessarily proof. Especially since they're from within the same group, instead of an outside source, so it's not really possible to get an accurate assessment that isn't skewed in someone's favour, or leans to heavily into a particularly bias. At best, it's anecdotal evidence that can be easily taken down. Plus, because of halo and primacy effects, it's very easy for someone belonging to the same group as you to view you as good/nicer than what is actually warranted. Everyone always thinks they or those belong to their group are good people; even history's worst monsters.

>I'm not arguing this with you
That's often an admission of defeat.

>keep thinking everyone is a horrible person unless you disagree
Projection, not to mention binary opposition.

>I'm sure God himself appointed you as the sole arbiter on who is nice and who isnt.
Don't believe any particular gods. It's just that if you're truly a nice/good person, you don't have to say it.

user I somewhat look like this girl. I think its cool that you like vidya and ww2 as long as liking ww2 history doesnt mean your into politics.
I think its sweet that your still a virgin, so manu manwhores nowadays. what do you look like and where do you live?

>its not proof even if other people think you're a good person
Cute.

>admission of defeat
Nah, its most that you were wrong about me being an incel, you were wrong that I "hadn't proved myself to be nice". So I have no reason to keep going since you just assumed a bunch of incorrect shit about me or anyone else who disagrees with you.

You're massively overestimating what it takes to be a good person. Basically, dont be a dick. Don't lie, don't cheat, don't act rude, don't treat others badly. It's not difficult and most people are fine with this. Many people are at least decent. As the user stated above, it's not usually enough for someone to find you attractive. That you didn't cuss out the waiter for getting the food order wrong or let an old lady cross the street in front of your car makes you a decent person but not necessarily means that people wanna fuck you.

Issa trap

You look like a girl op. Maybe that's why you can't get a gf.

>Cute.
It's not. Anecdotal evidence is typically not proof, and never inherently is.

>Nah, its most that you were wrong about me being an incel, you were wrong that I "hadn't proved myself to be nice".
No such claims were made. Just that the arguments provided aren't necessarily proof, and can still play into simply believing one is good/nice, rather than actually being it.

>So I have no reason to keep going
Typically admission of defeat.

>since you just assumed a bunch of incorrect shit
No such incident. Just that the arguments provided to "prove" it were anything but.

>or anyone else who disagrees with you
Projection.

>You're massively overestimating what it takes to be a good person.
Being a good person is fairly simple: impact and effect. Intent isn't generally a factor. Plus, "good person" differs from circle-to-circle, person-to-person, culture-to-culture. There are those who believe killing a girl for sleeping around is an act of a good person.

>Basically, dont be a dick.
Practically no one tries to be a dick. Practically no one thinks they're being a dick, even when they are.

>Don't lie, don't cheat, don't act rude, don't treat others badly.
Same problem. No tries to lie, cheat, be rude, or treat others badly. And when they do, they often try to justify it or remain oblivious somehow.

>It's not difficult and most people are fine with this.
It isn't. Because of that, it's very easy for people to see themselves as a good person even when they're not. And most people, even the worst, see themselves as good.

>That you didn't cuss out the waiter for getting the food order wrong or let an old lady cross the street in front of your car makes you a decent person but not necessarily means that people wanna fuck you.
Not entirely related.

You sound boring af