Im a 20 yo male, shes 21 yo female. So we were hanging out one night just after the super bowl, and the topic of the male cheer leaders came up. I usually avoid politics with her but she kept bringing it up. I told her that I think it's wrong and it would actually hurt women in the long run (like when Formula 1 racing got rid of its cheerleaders). She got very upset with me, and it didn't help that my fucking roommate got into the argument and sided with her. She then said "You're talking like the typical white conservative male" I then told her "Well, I am a white conservative male" and she was kind of taken aback. After that she said that shes taken a gender studies class so she knows better than me about the subject. Long story short, we made up and banged, but now it's like shes trying to convert me to be liberal like her everytime we talk. I just want to avoid politics altogether because I really like her, but shes making it difficult. What do I do about this?
How to get over politics with my gf
>>OP is white trash
>>gf mad op is white trash
Idk man. Conservative masculinity is a spooky fragile thing. Better dump her before she turns you into a fgt
Why is OP white trash?
Can't call him a nigger because that's racist.
There's a difference between imposed gender roles (male cheerleaders being spooky) and natural gender roles (males being dominant and powerful). Yes, you can argue that these spooky gender roles are necessary to maintain social cohesion and that that cohesion is necessary to attain some end, but simply stating
>males cheerleaders bad
Looks pretty dumb. Not saying the bitch should have a say, but you need to get better at think my man
>dating a "gender studies" liberal
yikes
My bf is a conservative sheep that takes all of his political beliefs from Youtubers and Twitter posts. I just ignore him when he starts with his shit and say "okay" and change the subject. Works well, together happily over 5 years. He doesn't vote so I just thinks it's funny when he spouts his dumb shit. Just refuse to engage in debates with your gf (about male cheerleaders of all things, really? I'm feminist and even I think that's a nonissue), greyrock (don't give an emotional response), and continue on. You don't have to agree on everything
Nobody graduated from middle school thinks Male cheerleaders are weird. Most the male cheerleaders in college are jacked and fk half the cheer team. So, given that OP hasn't graduated middle school at least mentally, and he's not black, he's white trash.
>thinks Male cheerleaders are weird
Wait what? When did OP say male cheerleaders are weird?
>I told her that I think it's wrong and it would actually hurt women in the long run
This is all he said about them
The problem is that you think male cheerleaders should even matter.
Like seriously, who fucking cares? If you want some TnA there are way fucking better places to look than goddamned football. Christ, you know that no one needs to pay for any kind of porn anymore right?
If a bunch of dudes want to dedicate their lives to cheerleading then power to them - shit's not easy and maybe there's some new stuff that dudes with more upper body strength and muscle mass can do that a purely female squad would have trouble with.
Gender roles and society norms? That's just cuck-speak for "Oh man, but my confidence will get trashed if women don't submit to me just because I have a dick..."
I mean, Jesus Christ, I would be over the fucking moon if my wife:
>Made more money
>Liked to work on shit with me in the garage
>Enjoyed analyzing finance and economics
>Could troubleshoot her own damn computer
>Joined me outside to shovel snow
>Found it normal to do all the same shit that I can/have to do which are normally considered "the man's job"
It's like you people are literally retarded.
OP you have to realize this is not impersonal to her. How you look at women, what position you think they should have in society, is not something unrelated to your relationship with a woman. She might be afraid of running into ideas about how she should behave down the line that she is incompatible with.
I mean, you can ask her to put aside politics (but even then you risk it being a dealbreaker for her that she wants to be able to discuss those topics with her partner) but I think it's about more than that. If you are truly incompatible in this regard, as painful as it is it's better to find out now than in six months when you're both in deeper.
Why does this even matter to anyone? Male cheerleaders in the NFL are already a thing, there were 2 at the Superbowl for fucks sake.
And plus, why even want to be a cheerleader in the NFL? They get shit pay, have shit conditions to work (no social media/zero contact with players), and aren't really respectable views of what professional cheerleading is actually like.
>unironically being conservative.
I am so glad I'm a libcuck lmao
IKR? He should be an egoist and take the stupid liberal whore as his rightful property under threat of beatings.
Dumb cuckservatives.
I'm not white trash, I'm just more right leaning. Most people at my campus are left of mao so I just try not to get into politics
I didnt want to argue about male cheer leaders, I just wanted some advice. If you must know, I dont think they're weird. I just think it's silly to have male cheerleaders when your demographic (conservative right leaning rednecks) likes cheerleaders because they're hot. When they see people dont like it they might just axe the cheer leading program like formula 1 did. Also we were talking about the ones at the superbowl you dummy.
politics don't matter in your daily life. Having a gf does. It's all bullshit that you take way too seriously cause you're a 20 year old kid still trying to define his identity and sense of self
You could get another gf I guess but conservative girls are a fuckin million times more insane than any pink haired gender studies lefty, I think they literally all have bpd
Also George Bush Jr was a male cheerleader, it's nothing new.
I dont want to break up with her, I really do love her. I just want to avoid politics entirely but now she's always trying to talk about them.
Uh what? I wasn't arguing about male cheerleaders, I said it's a nonissue, was a side comment in brackets anyhow. Everything else was advice I gave you that works for me when my bf goes off about dumb political stuff I disagree with. Works well to avoid an argument.
Sorry I didnt mean to put you in there, accident.
>I just want to avoid politics entirely
Well I don't know what to tell you man, you're the one who identifies as right wing or whatever. When I used to be into politics at your age I would live and die by all the stupid bullshit I believed in. I broke up relationships I had and even friendships because of it, but I felt it was worth it at the time.
If you want to avoid politics, maybe you're not actually that much of a conservative? Maybe you just spent too much time being brainwashed by Jow Forums and youtubers?
You can still have a political view point without being an activist about it.
>bringing up politics with women
yeah but then how does it matter? Why get upset about things that you take no part in? It's like that Louis CK joke about beliefs
Whether you're fervent or passive about your political beliefs at this moment doesn't matter when considering a long term relationship. If you have opposing views, at some point they're gonna clash.
Treating them as separate from your identity is a huge mistake a lot of people make. They make up a huge part of how you look at the world. Trying to ignore them entirely is like trying to ignore your sense of humor or what upsets you. They are apart of what dictates acceptable and unacceptable behavior for individuals.
It might feel unimportant now, but it generally enters people's priorities and interests at some point. Pic related.
you're the life of the party huh faggot
Yeah man I bring chips too
Since everyone else isn't giving you advice about what you asked, just be upfront with her. Say "Lately you've been bringing up politics a lot and I feel you're trying to convert me. My political views don't make me a bad person, not all conservatives are baby-eating racists. It's more nuanced than that. Stop trying to change me because that will just drive us apart."
"I'm conservative " is the new "I'm vegan". You're an approval junkie. Nothing more, nothing less. There are billions of people who go to sleep without enough food in them, but this is the political issue of the century, yeah, no, kill yourself.
>reads stirner once
hitler did nothing wrong