Rational suicide

Not him, but you do what you like and what makes you happy without feeling guilt about it. Its not an excuse to go shoot people or something, but its an excuse to not worry so much about work, school, and diet etc.

I think the most rational time to commit suicide is if you have a chronic (physical) illness that's directly impeding your quality of life and doesn't seem to have hope of a cure/treatment.
For example I have chronic pain ("fibromyalgia") and sleeping problems. I wake up still exhausted. Throughout the day my joints are in terrible pain, and any activity makes it worse. I just have to lay back in bed, which is still painful and not restful.
I'm 20 and have a lot of life ahead of me and a lot of nonstop physical pain, so I've been thinking of suicide for a while.
I don't think mental issues like depression/anxiety/getting rejected by a cute girl are a good reason. I know how that feels also, but it shouldn't be the end of the world.

There are plenty of rational reasons to want to commit suicide. "Waaah I'm too lazy to fix my fuckups" is not one.

Grow up, OP.

Rationality is a tool to move from thought a to conclusion b. It's not for deciding action necessarily, and you putting weight on it as a arbiter of action is probably a part of what has driven you to consider suicide in the first place

but idk what makes me happy. nothing does
>mental issues like depression/anxiety/getting rejected by a cute girl are a good reason
what if this is all you feel though?
its not that im too lazy, I cant.

What If my previous mistakes haunt me forever? I fucked up a semester and now everyone sees me as a fuck up, this Is a plenty good reason to off myself

This is shallow, but let me tell my thoughts. Firstly, life is an option. Secondly, life is an opportunity. Thirdly, you will end up back in existence one way or another.
With these, my line of thought is that I will use this opportunity of life to try my best and make it better for my future iteration

I fucked up an entire year. Graduated a year later and got a job. It didn't barely affected my life in the long term at all. Well maybe it did, but I'm doing fine professionally. People will forget, just continue trying to better yourself. It's not the end of the world.

It can be rational, like if you're about to die anyway and suicide is less painful, but in your case, no, it isn't rational. There is still hope left and there always will be. You just need to really try and I know that it's hard but don't kill yourself.

If you actually kill yourself because you failed one semester you're a massive faggot. Seriously, this shit happens, just pick yourself up and make sure to not fail again. No mistake is a net negative as long as you learned something from it

>but idk what makes me happy.

Then you have much to explore. I assume you're really only interested in dating a cute girl atm. There's nothing wrong with that and its really common, but the truth is that you'll be depending on happiness from someone else instead.

You need to realize how to let go of guilt. You're clinging to an imagination, what's happened has happened and there's nothing left to be done about it other than learn from the mistakes. Think of it like this, no matter how vividly you picture the past or how perfectly you imagine the future, the only real thing is the place you're in right now. Its the only place you'll ever actually be. You choose to let the past bother you because you dwell on it, but that doesn't do any good after you've learned from it.

I can't get over it

Don't worry, there's no such thing as an afterlife. Don't do it tho, sometimes living is fun.

How ? This sounds like your first real failure, so I see how you could think your life is over now, but dude shit like this happens. There's people out there who jump in a empty pool and get paralyzed, there's people who bankrupt themselves through bad business, people go to jail everyday. Yet they don't kill themselves, they learn from it, they grow up and they do better next time.

>I assume you're really only interested in dating a cute girl atm
what makes you think this? sure a girlfriend would be nice, but some friends would be even better, and even better than that would be just to have energy, I have no energy and lay in bed all day feeling like shit.
> you'll be depending on happiness from someone else instead
Doesn't everyone depend on their happiness from someone else? I feel like if you took away all of someones relationships, friends, family. They would not be happy.

all I did learn from It that I people get depressed when they are isolated, and yeah, I am talking about myself. If I was happy I would not have failed

>Doesn't everyone depend on their happiness from someone else? I feel like if you took away all of someones relationships, friends, family. They would not be happy.
The only reason anyone will ever tell you not to rely on friends, family or relationships for happiness is because in their world of having all of those things in abundance they will never understand how critical those things are to their well being.

If depression and anxiety is all you feel at the moment and you don't know anything that makes you happy, then you need to go out of your way to try new things to figure out what does make you happy.
That doesn't necessarily mean going bungee jumping or traveling the world (it might), but you just need to not be doing the same things day after day if they just result in depression/anxiety/suicidal thoughts.

read this

I'm saying you need to be able to provide some of your own happiness into their lives. Right now OP sounds too miserable to be around for a fulfilling relationship. You don't have to be happy, but at least be a little content.

Just read Albert Camus you infantile retard!

fucking attention whore. You're really pathetic, and actually mentally retarded if you're not aware that this is a cheap cry for help. There's nothing rational about what you presented. Fuck you

suicide can be rational read paul lafargue

no.

Ya'll are pussies.
Everyone says how life really, truly only had the meaning you prescribe to it. So, if you determine it to have a lack of meaning, then why not? You'll be gone and all the worries and problems you had will also be gone. The whole "a permanent solution for a temporary problem" thing is quite silly, considering everything is temporary. So, if you're currently in an unpleasant situation and you can't see yourself getting out of that situation without a whole lot of effort, pain, or discomfort, then why not just end it all? I think that that's rational enough.
t. constantly debating killing myself

Not OP, but one of the traits of depresion make it insanely hard to find something new to enjoy, to try, to feel it, with videogames and stuff at least.
There is nothing to try for me outside, I live in a town in the ass of the world struggling to get 20 € from my stepfather despite of having worked my ass forever.

Chances of solving your problems:
>Killing yourself: 0%
>Waiting for them to pass: ~0%
>Keep trying: >0%

Yep, killing myself is the most rational choice

>when his problem isn't life itself
In the above case, sure. When life is the problem, suicide answers it %100. I don't think OP's problem is life, though, so he might be wasting his life if he does. His choice though

Yeah suicide is a good thing and should not be shunned
t.have been suffering for decades

It's because they want you to work for the jews, aside from that you're family will suffer really tho. So unless you still have family left, then why not kys?

This. If you're not living for yourself/family explicitly you have been co-opted by the elite. Your life isn't really yours and you are a pawn/cattle/npc. I've come to this realization and have struggled to figure out the next step. Ultimately I want/need to kill the elite but how to get there isn't clear

You don't have family left user?

No, I do. But they are equally caught up in the scheme and I can't rescue them. It's probably best if I let them figure it out themselves and do my own thing. I will do it because I love them, of course, but slaving away for a paycheck isn't solving any problems that they might have

I have family but I feel nothing for them, no hate no love, I just tolerate them. What did you mean by ''I will do It''?

Whatever I decide is the next step, and all subsequent steps. If it involves being homeless and working out my plan, or moving to the woods to be a hermit, or blowing up something then I will take that action

I don't have a problem with people killing themselves, I don't enjoy life either, but depression and anxiety for life alone are highly fixable. It's not very hard to find things you enjoy in life. Focusing on how you're depressed and suicidal is not something to enjoy. Maybe listen to some music.

Wow. The holy grail of normie advice

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What, listening to music? It's better than doing nothing but laying in bed wallowing thinking about how you want to kill yourself. Cunt. It was a suggestion. If you're depressed and don't know what you like to do, you need to try things until you find something you like.