Be me, an American on tinder

>be me, an American on tinder
>decide to "stand tall and embrace who I am"
>write on my profile I'm 5'6
>no matches
>"fuck this shit"
>write I'm 6' for the lols
>30 matches in a day
>tfw I'm part of the patriarchy oppressing women by lying about my height and wasting their time
>but I don't get any matches otherwise
What do. Should I just kill myself so I don't oppress women by offending them with my pathetic stature?

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You could instead be interesting and have a personality instead of relying on an ap for hookups, and being a bitter dude about it.

That might work if real life women wanted to talk to me in the first place

You can't just expect random women to like you. Ask people you know to set up blind dates. Join an interest activity and befriend people there who can introduce you or maybe even want to date you.

>women are shallow
no shit. Women are incapable of connecting on a deep romantic level like men are.

This is why you and op are having trouble. Not your heights. That's just an easier cop out than fixing your personality.

You'd rather blame what you can't change then take responsibility and change what you can.

We're realistic you retard, women are shallow and have standards so high that men can't imagine what it's like to be that picky.

OP doesn't want a meaningful relationship he wants random hookups, and he is lamenting that he can only get those by lying.

He's saying he desires a world where doing the right thing (honesty) is rewarded rather than deceit. It's kind of a naive dream but not exactly an original one.

Thinking the world is a fair one was your first mistake dumbo

You can choose to kill yourself if you want, but while your unfair situation sucks it's unmanly and cowardly to kys. Move to Asia where you'll be tall and exotic.

I feel sad for you..

Yeah I know. I said that earlier, that he is bitching that he can't get any on a hookup app.

There's no advice to be had here so the thread should die before the bawww comes. I'm leaving before then

>but while your unfair situation sucks it's unmanly and cowardly to kys.
But being alive as a short male is disrespectful to women as it makes them feel big. I just want to make sure I respect women and it seems like my only options are either to withdraw from society or kms. Women are queen and they shouldn't have to deal with short men like me.

Best bet if you're short is to not use dating apps. I think certain women are drawn to apps because it allows them to be even pickier which makes sense. And since the app encourages shallow standards by prioritizing first impressions of physical appearance, it can even make women pass up your profile who would have liked you in person, shortness and all.

Plenty of short men have girlfriends and wives. Cute ones too, I see it all the time. More likely than not, they didn't meet on Tinder though.

Personaly is mostly genetic just like height. I have social anxiety and no avenues for socialization so it's pretty impossible for me to form connections with strangers. People only start to like me after they've known me for a long time and I've warmed up to them but that rarely happens because people drop you if you don't make a good first impression.

>This is why you and op are having trouble
OP literally confirmed it's not. You have no idea what difference height makes.

Is this pasta? I swear I have seen this shitty bait before.

We all know you are 6'3" and a bitter virgin whose oneitis is fucking a 5'6" guy, OP.

Jesus Christ get therapy for body dysmorphic disorder and shut the fuck up, so sick of you whiners.

Even if you match they reject you.
No one actually cares in online dating. I feel like no one has ever found a real relationship through this shit.

*Women who are on a dating app to have sex are shallow. Because they're only interested in a physical act, thus only interested in appearance.

Get out of your circlejerk and acknowledge that women are an extremely varied group of people and you're generalizing them based on a small subset. That's like if I looked at Jow Forums and said the human species is doomed because no men are having sex.

Even when I hear stories like, "I met my boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife on Tinder", I'm extremely skeptical. No two relationships are the same. If you want a relationship that's foundation is built on something like mutual respect and shared values, you are unlikely to find it on an app that brings people together by letting them decide if they find each other physically attractive. However you start a relationship, IMO, is what the relationship will be based on.

Honestly, three's a whole demographic out there that doesn't use Tinder. I will say that in general, if you use Tinder (and are on it for a long time), something is wrong with you. It applies to me from when I used it, there could be something "wrong" with all of us, but the question is whether you want the kind of problems that come from a Tinderella or not. Because from experience, those girls are insecure, shallow, and require way too much validation and attention. Where I am, I noticed that the same girls have been on Tinder for months or even years - yes I realize I'm no better for being on there as long. But most people are single for a reason, and people who don't want relations/can't give up talking to a bunch of people at once, will find a way to stay in there position. If you can't find anyone, it means your demographics suck, or you can't attract the right people.

>every mainstream media outlet is shitting on short guys
>tinder basically tells its users to fuck off if you're short
Gee, I wonder why people have body dysphoria

Oh man you are in for a surprise lmao. Read Sex and Character by Otto Weininger

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>every mainstream media outlet
I'll admit it's bad, but it's not this bad.

>tells users to fuck off if you're short
Tinder is run by modern day feminists and the app exists for women's entertainment/fulfillment. They're pretty transparent about it now. Notice they don't give a shit about all the people lying about their age, or using old photos, or using misleading angles to hide their current appearance?

Tinder fucking sucks, dude. The people who use it are mostly trash, the app is trash, "relationships" founded with it are almost always trash. Put effort into yourself and meet women IRL. You'll get rejected like every guy does, but the point of rejection is to sort out people who aren't a good match, not to remind you to stay in your lane or anything horrible like that.

What do you want, then? To hear how tragic you are? To hear how evil women are for having standards, and choosing who they want to date?

I don't get it anymore. Are you just shouting at a void in the hopes that some miracle cure will pop out in response? Because if you're looking for actual advice, finding excuses to duck out of hard work and effort are probably leading causes to why people dislike you or your general presence.

Mainstream media and tinder do that? Proofs?

>hard work
Every socially successful person is naturally extroverted and/or attractive. This is what normies don't understand.

>hurr me smarter than dumb normies
This is why people don't like you.

Sure lets read the incel who anhero'd at 23. I'm sure his opinion isn't biased.

M8 people don't like me because I literally ghost everyone I meet due to social anxiety. It's genetic.

Epic.

Can I see what your profile looks like for reference? I am genuinely 6'5 and have gotten less than 10 tinder matches in all my time using it.

It is. You think an autistic person can just "work hard" and suddenly not be autistic? You think a down syndrome person can "work hard" and not be down syndrome? You think a cerebral palsy fag could "work hard" and not have cerebral palsy? Same with people with social anxiety. You can't just change your personality. Socializing more will just provide more negative reinforcement and cause a socially anxious person to avoid socializing even more. It's ignorant af when people say all you have to do is "work hard" to achieve your goals. Sure, working hard can help you reach your potential, but if your potential was shit to begin with you'll never be happy no matter what you do.

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>autism is a personality
>cerebral palsy is a personality
>down syndrome
I honestly don't follow you, sorry.

>social anxiety is the same as autism, down syndrome, and cerebral palsy

Its probably for the best you stay off of the dating market

what’s the point of you even coming here for advice, if any time anyone gives you the possibility of realizing that you may have to take responsibility for your shortcomings, you don’t some mental gymnastics that leads you back to it’s impossible to change.

just fucking stop feeling sorry for yourself for a second. realize that there are people with way more disadvantages and worse disadvantages than you who are WAY more successful than you’ll probably ever be. realize that this pathetic little existence you loathe so much is literally the only thing in life that’s truly yours. just fucking do something about it or shut the fuck up and don’t expect your shit life to change

i tried that too but it didn't work. tinder thots are not interested in anything whatsoever, they just want to make sure they have a reason to ignore everyone on a case-by-case basis

Ok, then propose a solution to severe social anxiety. Let's see how much you idiots don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>there's always another excuse
What I'm asking is why you expect us to care as laymen. We can't really contribute meaningfully to medication that can cure you and no amount of thrown-at money will do, and you are very painfully clearly uninterested in our advice or roughly anything we've got to say.

So I guess what I want to know is what you want out of us, these supposed "normies." What do you want? Are we supposed to be able to help, without medicine or advice, somehow? And we can't even offer chummy encouragement because you don't want that either.

I just struggle to understand what you want, besides a miracle you deadass know we cannot perform.

How about you use that search bar at the top of your browser instead? Social anxiety is common, figure it out on your own, we're not your therapist.

i go to therapy for social anxiety and i’m 5’7” and i have worked hard to have friends and a girlfriend, took a lot of work and a lot of therapy, but i still do it and manage.

your problem is not your height or your anxiety it’s your shit fucking attitude.
you don’t take responsibility for you’re shortcomings, and you can’t even admit it. you still blame things like height and mental illness.

maybe realize everyone wants the best they can get for themselves, and right now that probably doesn’t include you. all you can do is make it include you, make them want you through detail nuanced changes in behavior. how do you figure that out you ask? therapy.

don’t wanna? then shut the fuck up don’t complain and rot. or you can try to enjoy the only thing that you can even call yours.

I'm talking about real social anxiety. Everyone says "hehe I have social anxiety I'm so quirky" then they have no problem being loud in public like normal people, which makes people who actually have social anxiety invisible. I already know it's not common because every single person I meet is different from me. And you didn't understand why I asked. I asked you to propose a solution so I could tell you how you don't know what you're talking about because there IS no solution and everyone with (real)social anxiety will die alone.

( is me)
i’m only being harsh because i’ve been there. there’s more to life than what you’re feeling. just have to take responsibility for it before you’re allowed to have it, life works that way for a reason.

>acknowledge that people are individually different
>don't acknowledge how that could entail anxieties manifesting in different ways and in different severities

How the Hell do you get off thinking you're even remotely close to smart?

Then just accept your fate since since going to be so self-defeating. If you think that everyone with as serious social anxiety as you can never find happiness then you're just spreading your misery to others who have it. If you're so sure it can't be fixed, then why are you bothering to ask us how to?

fucking these

Like what then. What could possibly be worse than social anxiety when your ability to socialize determines your place in human society and your overall quality of life. I would rather have 90 IQ but be a super outgoing guy than be 130 IQ but have severe social anxiety.

I'm not bothering to ask, I'm just telling people how wrong they are because I see this bullshit get spread around all the time on Jow Forums. Some people are just fucked to begin with and they will be unhappy no matter what. That's life and giving people false hope by telling them they can change is just causing them more pain. in the long run

>hits me with a sinker of a greener FUCKING GRASS
TOPKEK. Your idea of a counterstance is to say "someone else who suffers has it better!"? God almighty I don't even know what to say to you.

Look, your problems are yours. I'm not saying they don't exist, I'm saying nobody's going to respect anything you say or do so long as you innately presume nobody else has to face-- and indeed triumph against-- their fears.

It's arrogant and when it comes from a snot-nosed punk like you who's gonna throw every excuse he can in front of himself before he says "Yeah. I gotta commit a better, more concentrated effort on my health.", it just pisses everyone off.
If you'd like to compare backstories we can. It's not gonna be constructive, though.

Having down syndrome or cerebral palsy could be worse. There are a lot of people in history who found happiness in solitude. Try figuring out what they did.

Monks can be happy while dousing themselves in gasoline and setting themselves on fire. I'm not a monk. I don't have that kind of mental fortitude.

Not all monks light themselves on fire either. Do you see the standard you automatically put on yourself? You went immediately to one of the most self-sacrificing examples in recorded history. You're setting your standards so high you immediately quit before you even look up at them.

Well you sure as fuck can't claim to be helping yourself, not when you're taking part in back-and-forth on Jow Forums.

All we're saying is that you need to help yourself, not be on Jow Forums. And instead of saying literally anything of any substance you come up with an excuse why you can't.

I ask for the third time in this thread: what DO you want?

You seriously think I would just give up without trying to help myself? Giving up is the result of over a decade of trying to fix myself and realizing that every attempt at trying to make things better makes the problem far worse. You won't understand the situation until you experience it yourself, but you won't because you have normal genes and a normal childhood

>I have a normal childhood
See, like I said. We can compare that shit right here and now if you wanna.

Don't think it's gonna make either of us look good. And that's the root of the problem: you constantly take the most direct route to looking your very worst. You always adopt the least defensible and least merited point. You always drive into a further argument, aiming to sink everyone else on the ship with you.

I don't think I can find a more summary example than you, of "everything wrong with Jow Forums."
Even tripfags have more worth. You can't constantly aim to put everyone else down by omitting their efforts and suffering and by living in this ivory tower wrought of your poetic suffering.

One more time.
What do you want from us?

>Something bad happened to me, should I an hero?

When did you find out you’re into making troll bait?

please respond

>What do you want from us?
Just stop being a cliche motivational speaker and tell people the truth that they're better off dead.