I'm specifically requesting advice from people with IQ's above 130, above 140 if possible.
How do you handle the crushing loneliness? And I don't mean being alone, I mean not being able to connect on any meaningful level with most people. How do you find others like yourself?
Any and all help will be appreciated.
It’s not hard connecting to other people if you aren’t a full out sperg. Simple OP!
>only smart ppl pls resbond
There are two ways to solve this
Find people like yourself on the internet
Or adapt yourself to people who are a bit different than yourself
>Or adapt yourself to people who are a bit different than yourself
I did that, back when I wasn't sure about my own IQ. I spent several years befriending workmates and going out with them, telling myself it was only a matter of adapting. I had fun, I was in good company, and people adored me, but something important was always missing. After IQ results, I was relieved, but then I cried, because I realise it was not a matter of adapting: I can't change myself and I can't change others. I just have to find others. On the bright side, people like me are almost instantly obvious to me, so if I ever come across any, and I do, then I just know.
stop bitching retard you're not a special snowflake that's super different to everybody else. You have at least 1 important thing that you can talk about with every single person you meet on the street. Stop being a defeatist pussy and blaming others for your depression.
>t. 133 iq
Well said, well said.
I'm not sure what my IQ is, but I often feel unable to relate to most people on matters which require critical thinking and a certain level of emotional distance. What I find mitigates the reactive contempt for such folks is attempting to relate to them on an emotional level, or through a shared activity. Who gives a fuck if your buddy doesn't understand X philosophical problem if you can still shoot the shit over vidya or something?
iq 140 here - you just gotta learn to see what's best in people and meet them at their level. You'll always be a *little* different but that doesn't mean you can't make real, deep connections. Don't be judgemental of people and you'll be surprised what you can learn.
240 IQ here. You're just gay bro, it's okay.
145 IQ (tested as a toddler, maybe it is lower now idk). I don’t really think it is your IQ that is holding you back.
As others said, you need to relate to people on an emotional level. Develop your empathy, suspend your judgement and share with others. You will find that you can have very interesting, meaningful conversations with almost anyone as long as you show interest, listen and adapt.
136 at the lowest. I don't think that I share your feelings. I cringe thinking of socializing but, it is necessary so, I do it. I know before hand that it won't be so bad and it isn't. I have no desire to talk about the weather but I understand that's how it begins. I try to make things real and connecting on the same level happens when you get them out of their comfort zone.
>How do you handle the crushing loneliness?
You crush it back, in a painful, crushingly strong hug until the pain you used to feel becomes the new normal and then you only feel pain when you're not alone.
>t. 113 but I hope that's okay
I wish you well. After years of an earnest search I've given up. Similarly to you, I was and am in good company, and I guess I can't complain about that seeing as there are others who aren't as fortunate, but I've learned to embrace the loneliness and boredom in all of their perpetuity. In a way it drives me to pursue other projects and meet new people so I suppose there's a bonus to that.
I'm around people seem to never bother with engaging with the bigger picture of things, and any depth in anything seems to repel them unless it's either about sports or food (which is fine, but still limiting). We do shoot the shit and fool around often, but I just wished that things weren't as linear as they are.
In the end, no matter how well I engage with the circles I've formed, I am always left emotionally drained and disappointed at the end of the day.
You can't, you either sink down to their level or go insane
You need one person on your level, just one
Realize normies for who they are, because you are just as annoying to them as they are to you. You have to conceptualize the fact that they havr already accepted you.
Find your intellectual friends and hold on to them, but be content in your own company by always striving to better yourself. Whether it be financially, physically, or by any other means. Everyone has room for improvements, but you have a heightened capacity to actually make them. It's also important that your body WILL collapse before your mind does, so take time to relax and get sleep.
I started programming at a fortune 500 at 20, tested top 8% on ACT, top 0.1% when filtering for my legal race( I'm only an eighth Native American, so take that how you will), top 3% on ASVAB at age 16.
Top 8% on the ACT is a horrible score LMAOOOOOOO I got a 34 on 4 hours of sleep
That's great, user. I had the option to take a special act because I have optical problems when it comes to reading from pages. Glasses and therapy fixed this later, but I wasn't able to finish but two sections of it entirely. I wanted to compete on the same level as everyone else, so I just didn't finish the sections I couldn't finish in time.
Have you done anything with your gift?
148 IQ here.
>How do you handle the crushing loneliness?
I'm not lonely.
>not being able to connect on any meaningful level with most people.
I haven't had much of a problem. Of course, my circles don't usually have too many people below average.
I think it's a you problem, not an IQ problem.
>How do you find others like yourself?
Pick a career that's intellectually stimulating or join Mensa.
But if it is a you problem, and I think it is, then it won't help. Your inability to connect to people won't magically vanish as soon as you find intelligent life forms.
> IQ
133 formally tested by psychologist
> How do you handle the crushing loneliness? And I don't mean being alone, I mean not being able to connect on any meaningful level with most people. How do you find others like yourself?
I don't consider IQ to be the biggest barrier to connecting to people. Personality, worldview, and hobbies are far more important. IQ and raw intelligence isn't really even something I'm actively thinking about when looking for friends unless you're an idiot. Anything on the right side of the graph is probably good enough. I relate best to people who have a similar sense of humor as me, similar political views, similar taste in video games, etc. If you're lonely I'd recommend changing your approach and looking for people that you can relate to in a more meaningful way, rather than IQ, which imo is a poor predictor of who will be a good friend
Beat up hundreds of low iq individuals with your mind at the same time. Their hive mind provides a good challenge.
>How do you handle the crushing loneliness?
IQ 145 reporting in.
I stopped giving a fuck and that make me much more sociable. I also focused in on becoming socially adept. yes it is something that can be learned. I did it primarily by observing people who were both good at it and intelligent. It did take time, years actually, but now i'm awesome as fuck
Why are you trying to ask a certain group of people about something they don't know about?
>You need one person on your level, just one
I had one. Every interaction ever is compared to that interaction, and it depresses the hell out of me because I can never find such a friend again. I get along with everyone, I enjoy talking with them, I am interested and actually care. I have abnormally high empathy, and people detect that very quickly, so I get to know everything about them.
But in the end, it's like there's almost nobody for me. I don't find an echo in most people, and it's making me desperate.
Thanks to everyone who had interesting feedback to share.
>But if it is a you problem, and I think it is, then it won't help. Your inability to connect to people won't magically vanish as soon as you find intelligent life forms.
I don't know why everyone wants to think it's me and not my IQ. I stated many times that everyone loves me and I have no problems making friends and being social. I love it. And yes, whenever I find intelligent life forms, the connection is virtually instant, it's just not always people I can see again.
I might try Mensa. Thanks.
To be clear, I am at my loneliest when surrounded by 15 people who all adore me. I love them too, but it's like we are barely the same species, and after years of this, I can't anymore.
>Requesting Advince
>advince
Nobody noticed yet. I knew nobody had a superior IQ in this bitch.
>online tests don't count
>tests done before 18 don't count either
>guesses don't count
>lies don't count
Sorry OP, I'd say very anons here actually have above 130, especially the ones that tell you it's all your fault. These are absolutely normal people who think they're smart and that, therefore, you're the idiot for not being sociable, even though you pointed out that you were doing fine socially (only one of the many ways you can tell normal IQ's).
I'm certified at 167, and yes, it's a bitch finding someone comparable to you, but not impossible. Others will be similarly starved as you are for real company.
One day I stopped giving a fuck about sounding pretentious and literally just joined a dating website for superior IQ's. Best thing I've ever done. Wife is at 154 (exact numbers don't matter), and life is fucking awesome. We now both have each other's friends and everyone's a smartie (not to be confused with just raw knowledge, I don't judge people on their encyclopedic knowledge).
Life is good, hang in there, OP. You'll make it. Just have faith that others like you exist and hang on!
You don't sound smart you just sound like a fucking schizoid
this
bait thread anyway
Schizoid people don't want or need company. OP obviously does, so OP can't be schizoid.
Don't use words you don't understand.
Additionally, OP, make sure you understand that when people attack you, it's because they are insecure about themselves and can't stand that you're bright. Expect it. But don't take it personally.
Don't join Mensa, they're worse than normal people.
I don't have many friends but I'm not particularly opposed to this.
If you want to connect to people you need similarity in circumstance - I write and produce music, this allows me to connect to people with similar interests.
Much depends on what you really desire.
I like to talk to some intelligent niggers from time to time, but even that gets boring after some time.
You could also look for people to talk on the internet. I don't mind talking to you.
Damn I remember when I used to be as edgy as you op
It's not edgy when it's real. That's the difference.
You're just stupid bro. It's okay if your dumb.
>How do you handle the crushing loneliness?
Find people with the same interests and the same level of humor.
t. 131 IQ
Human connection is an emotional endeavor, not an intellectual one. You're lonely because you're an asshole, not because you're smart.
134 IQ
Changes absolutely nothing, IQ is a meme and dumb metric to almost anything.
Even if you have a very high or very low IQ, you will still be able to make meaningful connections with anyone.
How i deal with loneliness? I just read a lot and spend time with my bf. I have some friends which i play a lot of tabletop rpg's at almost all weekends. This is pretty much my social life i guess, and it's great.
You just need to find a hobby and someone who cares i think, then you are done.
Also remember: IQ is a fucking meme and it's worthless if you are a pussy,
Regular people can communicate on your level. You are failing to engage. There are plenty of dummies but, you'd be surprised how people are interested in things. Get past the ball game and how are things at work and do some probing. That's what they aer trying to do to you.
Scored 145 on WAIS-IV and 155 on Raven's. Also have diagnosed autism.
I don't need to handle the crushing loneliness. I find people who are interested in the same things I am on the internet and talk with them. However, this frequently led back to being lonely. I was able to rest durably in religion though. Praying the rosary and so on. I try to be humble.
has good advice also. Find a career that challenges you. I do consultancy for a large financial services firm and I'm very happy. Everyone around me is smart too.
133 here
I can't help much because i don't feel lonely hardly ever. Most people are faggots and I don't want them near me yet alone want to connect with them.
I enjoy being alone, even with my friends I feel so inherently different in values and cues that after about a day of socialising I realise why I don’t spend the ke with others in general. Those who are afraid of themselves run to others for comfort
Im a sperg and i used to feel this way, and i never stopped being along, but i just stopped feeling about it after awhile
an online IQ test said i had 160
the problem is that you're being an obnoxious cunt
With the wonders of modern technology it's fairly easy to find niche social groups of people from all over the world who share similar interests. Interests are somewhat indicative of general intelligence, so finding a small set of intelligent buddies isn't tremendously difficult. Further consider that universities, particularly graduate school, acts as a selector for above average intelligence. Anyone who is engaged in a challenging degree plan at a respectable institution knows how many smart people are wondering around the Halls of academia.
Honestly, I don't see loneliness as being an issue significantly correlated with high intelligence. Perhaps at roof-hitting levels of IQ (164+) finding friends could be somewhat of an issue, but I imagine that people at that level of giftedness make friends with established professors and the like.
I found some in an online community. Professors, doctors, a couple trust fund guys, some business guys. It was a revelation, but hollow. I've got mental problems and I left them. Back to the grind. I have wife, family, friends, kids, but nobody to relate with. I will die this way. Maybe if you're young and it's not weird to make IRL friends with internet strangers you can pull it off
Hey man part of being smart is knowing what topics are appropriate for which people and places. Dumbass
Lot of angry average people in this thread. Imagine asking for help and a bunch of people with down syndrome start telling you you have a bad personality and that's the problem. Lol
>IQ is a fucking meme
It's not and to know it, but if it makes you feel normal okay
Huff some diesel adn get no our level
a) accept that you will never connect with others on that level. I was fortunate to have a brother, but nowhere else have I ever had that connection.
b) Find other things to connect over. I can enjoy my girlfriend and connect with her sexually, and I can enjoy the simple pleasures such as seeing her energy or enthusiasm. I have in a way put myself as the parent of the people I have connected with and created a one-directional connection of helping them grow and develop. That worked moderately well for me.
Good luck OP.
>113
Dude that's pretty stupid for Jow Forums
It seems nobody cares to read my posts. As I said: I am very social and people genuinely interest me. I am very appreciated and I love people. Most things interest me, so whenever anyone has any interest, I have fun asking questions about it and listening, because I care and I am curious.
My problem, as stated, is that I almost never find an echo in others, and the result is crushing loneliness. I know it's possible because I have experienced it, it's just rare. Very rare.
This. 138 IQ here, and that is every average person's reaction to learning you're smarter than 98% of the population. Don't compensate at my expenses, bros.
145 here.
I don't, I stoop myself to the normie's level and end up enjoying myself.
Pseuds who think they are smart are about as pleasing to interact with as is masturbating with a roll of sandpaper.
>I have in a way put myself as the parent of the people I have connected with and created a one-directional connection of helping them grow and develop. That worked moderately well for me.
I have done that for a long, long time. In the end, it was a disaster and I've realised this isn't how it should be. I hope it won't end up a disaster for you as well. Symmetry must be a thing in meaningful relationships, otherwise it's mostly a sham.
I disagree with a), you can find others like you. Have faith that you will, as these people will put everything else into perspective (and that's when shit might go down, but hopefully for the best).
Thank you, and good luck as well.
Jow Forums, contrary to popular belief, doesn't have above average IQ at all. There are two types of smart people, the actually smart and the autistic. Autists are only smart on low level things, as they would be if they maxed out details without going above; whereas gifted people are smart on superior levels also, and that's why, often, people with crazy high IQ's are completely moronic in more complicated systems (such as social systems) than basic maths or geometry.
>There are two types of smart people, the actually smart and the autistic.
Nobody cares about your headcanon, retard. IQ scores have been shown time and time and time again to strongly positively correlate with just about any cognitive task. All this pleading about "multiple kinds of intelligence" and whatnot is quakery and cope.
And no, your 130-140 IQ does not mean you're smarter than everybody on this site. The most hilarious thing about Jow Forums is exactly that it's full of people in this IQ range who all think they're the only smart person around. Most of the time everybody in these threads is too wrapped up in blogging their own life story and pet theories to notice that every other post is almost exactly the same.
ITT: people who think their IQ is 130+ because they did a meme test online.
nah my shrink gave me a stack of papers and a timer when I was 15
t. a typical case of
>Nobody cares about your headcanon, retard. IQ scores have been shown time and time and time again to strongly positively correlate with just about any cognitive task. All this pleading about "multiple kinds of intelligence" and whatnot is quakery and cope.
>he thinks user was about Gardner's model
It's obvious that this isn't what user was talking about. user is also correct in that past a certain IQ, you mostly get "idiot savants" who are very good at certain tasks and utterly retarded at others. You can't deny that.
>And no, your 130-140 IQ does not mean you're smarter than everybody on this site.
It's not hard to see the average chantard is retarded. Smart people don't waste their time here.
>The most hilarious thing about Jow Forums is exactly that it's full of people in this IQ range who all think they're the only smart person around.
That's because of
I actually work for NASA. It's easy to claim having a high IQ because of some online test, it's quite another to work for NASA.
IQ's tested when young are not so significant. Some people grow up faster, so you get an edge at a young age; if you tried again now, you may not get the same at all.
ITT: triggered normies.
Sorry op but you are deluding yourself.
You’re searching for something that is missing and you think you have pinpointed it but you have not.
It is up to you to change. You still have room to grow in your ability to gain fulfillment in your relationships. IQ is not a measure of the complete human. You may surround yourself with high IQ individuals and find that you are lonelier than ever.
What do you value? Maybe your relationships seem meaningless because you have decided to value something odd.
>surround yourself with high IQ individuals and find that you are lonelier than ever.
The times I have done that were the best in my entire life. Everything fell into place and I had the best time ever.
I value being able to relate to others and others being able to relate to myself, simply so I feel together.
>surround yourself with high IQ individuals and find that you are lonelier than ever.
Not OP, but... you do know what that means, right?
>user is also correct in that past a certain IQ, you mostly get "idiot savants" who are very good at certain tasks and utterly retarded at others. You can't deny that.
I can and I will, because that's not what any of the science on the topic says. IQ, or rather g, is the experimentally well established factor that positively correlates with pretty much all cognitive tasks. Idiot savants are very rare compared to people who are good across the board, it's just that when you get to the extreme outliers in terms of abilities (160 aka off the scale) it's less likely that they will hit this across the board. But they will still be gifted in just about
>It's not hard to see the average chantard is retarded. Smart people don't waste their time here.
every respect.
And yet here you are, someone who works at NASA. As I said, every chantard thinks he's the only smart one, it's hilarious to watch. The main demographic of Jow Forums is highschool and university students with some degree of technological aptitude and nerdy niche interests. 130 might not be the average but it's certainly nothing exceptional.
>online tests
If you ever bothered to read the IQ threads instead of blogging you'd find that many claim to have been professionally tested.
Really the only reason you would disagree with me is your sense of pride demanding the belief that you are intellectually superior. This site is full of faggots like you. You fail to connect with people IRL, develop a sense of superiority, come here and spend an obscene amount of time playing word games with people just like you - yet you never stop and think about why it is that you're here and that perhaps the people you hang out with are more similar to you than you'd think.
You're not an exception, I've had this exact discussion plenty of times before. You breezed through the educational system and university? You got an engineering degree? Well guess what, so did I and half the people in this thread.
15 is after the main hump though. Childhood scores are complete crapshoot but they basically level off after puberty.
>130 might not be the average but it's certainly nothing exceptional.
>2% is not exceptional
If something only worked once in 50 attempts, when it does work, you would say it is the exception.
>you talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded
>low IQ coping
It's hilarious to see anons literally speak against mathematical truths.
Typical low IQ. OP specified he wanted feedback from certified high IQ's, why do brainlets never understand?
Guess I answered my own question.
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I find that people with above average IQ's who can't make meaningful personal connections are also people who are limited in terms of their openness and curiosity. They don't make very good use of their intelligence.
I think much of the userbase of Jow Forums that find difficulty in navigating social interactions are primarily men who are stuck in an adolescent mindset: they're still struggling with an unformed sense of identity that is excessively impacted by their fears of how other people perceive them. They're reticent to interact socially because they're afraid of how they'll be judged, and when they do, they treat conversation like it's a pissing contest to prove their place in an imaginary hierarchy. Gee, people who do this are not well liked? I wonder why that is. It's a complete mystery.
"It's because I'm so much smarter" is a pretty common rationalization for repeated social failures, even among people of average intelligence.
The whole initial question in this thread, "How do you find others like yourself?" (presumably referring to "high" IQ people, not others who are socially inept) is a joke. Why would any legitimately intelligent person ask this? If they really were so ignorant that they couldn't think of any possibilities, they could just do a google search and get a bunch of suggestions.
It's obviously not the right question that OP should be asking. That right question is: "What is it about me and my behavior that is causing me to be unable to connect to others?"
There are literally tens of millions of people in that range. If it makes you feel good to think that you're some special snowflake, consider that there are a billion plus insects for every person alive. You are such a rare and unique organism, even though you're freakishly below average when it comes to the number of limbs you possess.
>Middling above-average IQ is high.
Sure it is.
You're on Jow Forums's Jow Forums playing comparison games, dude. No amount of big brain is going to help you at this point.
undergrad in applied physics here. Ive never taken an official IQ test but from past experience id guess my IQ is 130.
My answer: there is no way. Just cry when no one is looking I suppose. To be happy in the usual sense is to pretty much be a normie, and id rather have my testicles ripped off than that. Btw, this thread will only garner replies by the opposite of who you are looking for.
How do I get a gf like the one on the left haha
Asking for a friend
I listen to girlfriend roleplay audios.
become a jew
my 300 IQ dumb ass forgot to attach pic
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haha meta
easy.
Step 1 analyse what other people likes and make a database
step 2 do this shit
relationships are hard at every IQ level. The difference here is that when you have the capacity to think more profound thoughts, you will NECESSARILY develop an inclination towards it.
If you're struggling in social environments, it's because you're overthinking it. If you find yourself stuck with nothing to say, just say literally anything.
If you find your present company to be beneath you... Maybe try being more compassionate, and taking a genuine interest in them. You may be surprised by what you discover. Or, if they really aren't capable of keeping up with you, then why are you hanging out with them in the first place?
This may sound like the most asshole-ish thing you could say, but "if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room." Try not to think of this from a misanthropic perspective. It's more of a tool to help you figure out where you need to go in order to become even better than you are today.
138 here.
i find people who cannot into logic entertaining. if they are assholes i look at them like cockroaches and try to avoid them, if they are nice people, i try to help them, guide them, and i wonder how the education system failed them.
I read the Bible and now I'm friends with probably an 80 IQ asian lady in my building who whistles like a beautiful song bird.
It's more of behavioural thing. People probably felt insecure around you and were mean to you, which reinforced this narcissistic outlook of yours.
It's easy to claim to work for NASA online.
120 here.
I find people who cannot into logic frustrating. Extremely frustrating.
Ive been tested to have a 130 IQ
the reason you cant connect with people isnt because youre smart/their dumb
its because youre a cunt who thinks hes better than other people. they can sense that when they talk to you so they dont open up to you. you can have a meaningful connection with some 80 IQ retard if you we're so full of yourself
180 IQ here, I have anime gf
142 here. LSD and working at a think tank.
I dedicate most of my time and effort into being a kind person and bettering the lives around me. It's mostly narcissism. People like kind people, right?
175 here
You have to try and meet other people as smart as you are. The loneliness won't go away until you can actually interact with your peers. It's worth it to go through the hassle of having to find them.
In my case it was mostly luck, unfortunately, so I don't have any advice on how to find them.
>How do you find others like yourself?
Allow me to distinguish myself from the usual trough of nonsense replies by asking "Why is finding someone like yourself important?"
A more mature approach would be to find someone who is suited to you, good for you, or even better, someone who complements you. High IQ scores are useless if they are held by an immature mind that seeks only it's own reflection.
Disclaimer: i never thought i was dumb, but i did the mensa test the other day and it put me at the 92.9th percentile. It made me wonder who the fuck is running the world if i'm in the top ten percent.
By developing distinct personalities I talk to in my head. It has the added benefit of reducing my IQ over time.
This thread reminds me of that one user who would post their IQ and their pol ideologies and how he couldn't find a gf lmao just be yourself op
just protect yourself by building a wall of spite around you. i don't need other people, they all suck, i am the best
Took a test to check where i landed "only" 121, but i feel like its hard to connect with people even at this stage. And i feel like a retard combined to the 140+ guys.
your failure to connect with people has nothing to do with your IQ. its because youre an autistic faggot
If you really are intelligent you will find a common topic and go from there. If your intelligence is a major part of your personality, then it's not the others that are the problem.
High IQ has nothing to do with social skills. Get a life, drink some booze with some dipshits, learn you hate it, go back to research.
I'm only 119IQ but my failure to connect with other people is because I'm too dumb for those in my professional circle and too boring and socially awkward to connect with people in general. I cheesed a competence test for my job interview so soon I'm going to be faced with more loneliness than ever. I deal with it by embracing solitude and finding enjoyment by myself. Fitness, hiking, reading, music. Fake it till you make it.
it's almost always not their fault, so it's not necessarily wise to get frustrated. frustration never solves any issues. just move along if you can, if you can't then try and have fun. otherwise you will have health issues.
stop being a 15 year old atheist from 2012