Men in the past chased status and wealth cause it was the means to get more women. but today and with sexual liberation women are free to dismiss 80% of men and only chase after chads short term.
so, why in the fuck are men working their asses off day and night to support some unloyal hoe?
And since I look like shit and will never have the opportunity to get a hot girl myself, what should motivate me exactly? and other males incels?
What motivates men today?
Juan Smith
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Isaac Lopez
Just because your brain tells you it's a bad idea, that you know better and you shouldn't do it, your biological urges deplete your will until you cave and do it.
Bentley Butler
Great question. The dream used to be find a girl, buy a house in the suburbs, have kids, and work your way up the corporate ladder or start a business of your own. Now corporations have effectively annihilated prospects of small business start ups, and large companies tend to lay you off when you reach 50. Women’s sexual liberation and their precondition mindset to hate males has led to the destruction of The nuclear family. So to sum up, there really is nothing to live for. Culture has been eradicated and families are going extinct. I live alone and do drugs occasionally when I should have a family by now. It sucks because I want one. But here I am questioning my existence like you.
Colton Stewart
Live for yourself. Become self-absorbed and use all that negative energy you'd use on hate or anger to reach your absolute potential.
Wyatt Williams
>Men in the past chased status and wealth cause it was the means to get more women.
This is a very narrow 'historical' view that hasn't been relevant for a long time, dare I say, over 50 years. It's also too generalist to be accurate about any given individual who has hopes and dreams of his own.
>but today and with sexual liberation women are free to dismiss 80% of men and only chase after chads short term.
You can choose to believe that that's true, sure, but I'd argue that not much has changed. People are just so disconnected due to the advances in technology that hedonistic pursuits of pleasure over tangible achievable goals that better ones' life has taken precedent today.
What this really means is that you just need to get over your laziness and actually strive for something besides pussy.
>so, why in the fuck are men working their asses off day and night to support some unloyal hoe?
The game hasn't changed, no one is actually working towards an disloyal hoe just like men from 50 years ago weren't working towards wives. People work towards who they want to be and what they want to do; if you think that your life should amount to the pursuit of a trophy on a pedestal then go for it, but don't pretend like everyone else thinks like that or ever did.
>And since I look like shit and will never have the opportunity to get a hot girl myself, what should motivate me exactly? and other males incels?
But why do you care about this "hot" girl? Right, it's self-explanatory. Her being hot doesn't actually mean anything at the end of the day, have you actualy considered that this is a person and that you'd probably not even like them if you actually did know them?
You're chasing an illusion, the perfect woman doesn't exist OP. You should not chase after illusions. Please hold some more tangible dreams and pursue them for yourself, not for some material gain you've never actually experienced and don't seem to fully comprehend. Dedicate yourself to anything else
David Howard
>namefag with a wall of text and anime post
Very Gneiss
Pussy status. More dudes who wanna bang your ho, better she is
That's why so many sugar daddies pop up. Cuts out all the shit, gets right to the meat of the matter
For all others there's some personal reason but I deadass know you didn't make a thread to hear over 100 personalized, individual reasons for pursuing-- so the real reason is status. Since wealth is usually better acquired and held with as few extra humans as possible, and power is best consolidated to the individual, you really only stand to gain image/status from it, if you don't derive a personal gain
Benjamin Harris
chase happiness
Adam Parker
I'm motivated by the possibility of World War 3. This twisted game needs to be reset.
Jaxson Stewart
stfu larry
Tyler Bailey
why did you put actual effort into this? this is an obvious bait thread.
Ethan Davis
Get as much money as you can. That's the game. Then flash it in front of thots.
Luis Flores
men are motivated by those things too
but they are swamped by more options not less
imagine a world without tv, internet, vidya, Jow Forums, etc. you would be out playing sports and picking up women just to entertain yourself
Easton Ross
men and women today generally are ungrounded and mostly chase images and copy things they see in media. Not all of your fantasies can come true, but a lot of good shit can happen if you work dilligently with what gawd gave you. This applies to chads, insecure chinlets, and disfigured wheelchairbound quadriplegics alike
Adrian Reed
You could always try to make more money for yourself. It's just nice to have more money to a certain point whether you have a girlfriend or not.
James Adams
why do white people make things so complicated. why are illegal mexican laborers and cleaning ladies more successful at starting and maintaining families than you guys?
Logan Wood
Most normal men work harder than they need to for their own survival mainly for the sake of providing for a family and for securing a future for their own offspring. This has probably always been the case for ordinary men. If achievement of these goals is rendered unrealistic by whatever cause, it would be reasonable to expect a corresponding loss of motivation to work or to otherwise achieve very much worthy of note outside of their own peculiar private interests.
Jason Johnson
Literally everything you said is wrong OP. You are obviously a teenager who thinks the memes of other teenager virgins on Jow Forums are reality.
Jeremiah King
The real question you have to ask yourself op is what motivates you?
The picturesque and rosy reality of eras long pass will not solve your own inner plight. You perceive the outside world as the problem, and there is no solution in sight. So often we believe that we are victims of our own circumstances, when in reality we are victim to the world that we perceive in our mind.
Your reality is something you create, and yet, so many people do not see this as a possibility. They only see that which is unattainable, and not the steps to make it attainable. They only see the difficulty. The irony in this perception is that these same people will be the ones on their death bed wishing they had taken more chances in life.
Logan Bailey
WHOS DAT BITCH I WANT TO PENIS HER
Anthony Scott
You should write a book no bullshit. This is why im so depressed right now. It's not even funnu anymore. I know I'm gonna kill myself one day.
Logan Ramirez
>And since I look like shit and will never have the opportunity to get a hot girl myself
>complains women only go after chad
do you guys ever re-read what you write
Mason Ward
This is like some sort of weird autism I've noticed in self-identified incels. Complete disregard for the fact that women have never in history stooped below their looksmax, while the notion of lowering their own standards to get some of that pusi they practically worship never, ever comes up. Hmm, weird, it's like they're afraid the might fall in love with their looksmatch
Brayden Walker
*never stooped below their looksMATCH, not looksmax
Dylan Johnson
Your only problem is that you live only for women.
Nigga, make some goals and make some dreams happen. 90% chance if you chase your dreams women will follow.
Right now you have nothing of value to offer any woman, not a single fucking thing. You’re a disgusting fucking loser with 0 ambition to better himself or the world around him. Or course no woman has even THOUGHT of reproducing with you.
Cameron Long
YEAH.
>it's like they're afraid the might fall in love with their looksmatch
they wouldn't be capable of that. they wouldn't even be polite or decent with someone they find unfuckable
Hunter Taylor
Oh, they'd catch feels faster and harder than any normie or Chad, no doubt. Their resentment is resistance against letting go to loving. They want to break down and open up. Speaking from experience. They'd benefit from a BioEnergetic, or other somatic-type therapy
Keep in mind my argument is that they DO INDEED find their looksmatch completely fuckable, but deny her to kind of "hold out" for their 8+ dream thot. 100% if they landed a Stacy, they'd excuse themselves to the bathroom and just hunch over and silently breathe heavily calm their nerves. A relationship with a Stacy would keep them in constant fear of being "revealed" to be not an 8+ themselves.
Remember, the defining touch of ER's autobio is that he never made an effort. He never even told his feelings to any girl.
Evan Martin
>They want to break down and open up.
i doubt that. the old fable about scared men who would benefit from "being saved" & aren't actually shitty is becoming dangerous for girls who want to be "healers" for them. they're choosing their own doom spontaneously, there is no "resistance to loving" because what they seek is the most shallow form of sex and the most shallow form of beauty (= the kind of beauty that is accepted by their mates too, they would shiver at the thought of having some other guy mock their partners), if anything they would benefit from restraint, and they know the consequences. the only smart thing girls can do is start being a lot more flexible and independent. their dream thots also know that once they reach old age they won't get the same attention and i believe this is why they're "unloyal hoes". they get how men think. they know this whole thing isn't about love. they know better and want to have fun while they're young.
Isaiah Morris
>so, why in the fuck are men working their asses off day and night to support some unloyal hoe?
I work day and night to make money because I fucking love money. I must be jewish.
Jaxon Taylor
>they're choosing their own doom spontaneously
>there is no "resistance to loving"
Choosing one's own doom is a form of resistance. Chronic tension in the body is resistance against letting go and being an effortless, easygoing guy. See the somatic therapy I mentioned.
>what they seek is the most shallow form of sex
True, what they've come to understand as sexuality is porn. Not what's going on in the porn, but the act of consuming it. They want women pornographically. Again, speaking from experience.
>= the kind of beauty that is accepted by their mates too, they would shiver at the thought of having some other guy mock their partners
That's called mimesis. They like a girl because he sees other guys liking her. It's not the exception, it's the rule.
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Nicholas Thompson
m.youtube.com
we're nearing the end of the equilibrium phase
Mason Moore
so: if a woman in their eyes isn't worth socially, or accepted by other men, and most people, they move on, no matter how much some hidden part of themselves yearns for that woman, not only physically. the fun thing is, what people accept and what they don't accept is a wheel that keeps spinning and the preference of the masses change. it's like the thick eyebrows trend, someone bullies you in middle school for having thick eyebrows, and once they grow up and thick eyebrows become a trend they hop on the bandwagon and start drawing on their own to fill them. people are so shallow, man.
Cooper Diaz
cont'd
>their dream thots also know that once they reach old age they won't get the same attention and i believe this is why they're "unloyal hoes".
So, attn = currency for women. As in, "pay" attention. Got it.
>they get how men think. they know this whole thing isn't about love. they know better and want to have fun while they're young.
So as long as men aren't going to take the high road, neither will she? Can all women be counted on to take cheap fun over actual love?
Ayden Perry
half truth and misleading. tell that to a kid with no money and no way to move up. success and failure is built on traction and downward spiral like y=x^3. You can perceive smoking is a bad thing and change that perception to recreate your reality but your reality is still that you're a smoker due up for lung cancer. stay rooted in facts, then be as fanciful as you like to take those chances you describe.
John Ward
what the fuck is up with your mentality?
Your problem isnt the way the world is, its how you choose to percieve the world because you are constantly trying to make yourself justified in your anger.
There is no real chads except for the genetic lottery, even then its not certain.
Real life is living with the uncertain, you never know when or what is going to happen and to think its one thing pr the other takes that uncertainty. Learn to cope with uncertainty.
Wyatt Thomas
>Choosing one's own doom is a form of resistance.
i really do get what you mean. but the pull of doing the right thing and choosing to go for whatever's best for them individually should be more inviting than the other kind of pull and the greed of getting "the best kind of meat out there". it's something i obviously don't understand, and i hope i never do, so i'm just quietly being myself & hoping for a mass extinction.
>Can all women be counted on to take cheap fun over actual love?
of course not. i'd say quite a lot of women aren't having cheap fun. it looks like the majority is doing that because those women are the ones in the spotlight. that doesn't mean the ones who know better and want better are ugly. sometimes they are, and being socially unaccepted and excluded made them open their eyes, but that just means if they were pretty they would do the same. not everyone is stepping back because of that, some women still want love.
can all men be counted on to take cheap fun over actual love? i hope not, but they're more inclined to. if women are having trouble choosing actual love, then what's the hope for men?
Brayden Morales
>chased status and wealth to get womyn
>le 80/20 meymey
>men work just to support local thots they fished
>i look like shit, but I want hot gf, why does she go for Chad and not me REEEEEEEEE
Wow bud, you missed a few incel meme "facts" when crafting the hook. And you didn't even stabbed some bait.
Benjamin Roberts
>X should be more inviting than Y
X requires making themselves vulnerable, not to mention time and effort. Y (porn, and commiseration on incel forums) is free and on tap. If every house had a cocaine tap in the kitchen, you could anticipate an epidemic of coke addiction, including in kids. Which is what we're witnessing, men frustrated that they can't get their dick into (the woman on) the screen.
>if they were pretty they would do the same
Not so fast, I'm not letting that slide. If they were pretty enough to get the same level of attention, they wouldn't be interested in doing so?
>can all men be counted on to take cheap fun over actual love?
More and more, it seems.
Justin Ortiz
>If every house had a cocaine tap in the kitchen, you could anticipate an epidemic of coke addiction, including in kids
yes, if you start taking cocaine. taking it or not taking it is your choice. let's start encouraging responsibility instead of letting people get away with their victim mentality, especially on here. that doesn't mean it isn't hard. and that doesn't mean people who receive a good education on what is harmful and what isn't are advantaged. look around though, education belongs to everyone. repeating the same things over and over to men won't let them listen. they know what's right, and they still won't do anything about it, so it doesn't make them forgivable. the world surely is complicated but one is free to choose, that's something no one can take away. maybe we have lost the sense of what is good and what is bad, and we are excusing these behaviours.
>X requires making themselves vulnerable, not to mention time and effort.
they make themselves far more vulnerable with toxic relationships and spend time and effort for very trivial things anyway. i don't think that's the issue. time, effort and vulnerability were never the issues in the first place in my opinion. it's just that everyone is addicted and can't find enough reason in themselves to break away from familiar patterns. i personally think and strongly believe it doesn't make anyone less shitty.
>If they were pretty enough to get the same level of attention, they wouldn't be interested in doing so?
what i meant to say was, if so-called ugly girls who aren't living the "cheap fun" kind of life because of appearance, still would choose to live like that, that wouldn't make them much different from the women in the spotlight. women stepping back from the "cheap fun" aren't necessarily aesthetically ugly (according to social standards).
Xavier Taylor
>and that doesn't mean people who receive a good education on what is harmful and what isn't are advantaged
aren't*