Jow Forums will defend this

William Allen
William Allen

Jow Forums will defend this

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Jack Bailey
Jack Bailey

What if I dont want to buy healthcare?

Aaron Jenkins
Aaron Jenkins

One picture looks like someone holding a weapon to defend themselves.
The other picture looks like a human caring for another human.
You have the right to defend yourself.
You don't have the right to another human to take care of you.
All done here? I think so.

Cameron Gonzalez
Cameron Gonzalez

I have a right to enslave doctors to work on my body

Matthew Reed
Matthew Reed

Taxpayers don't pay for my guns.

Jason Price
Jason Price

OP BTFO

Colton Scott
Colton Scott

Exactly

Nicholas Morris
Nicholas Morris

Both picture illustrate taking care of yourself. Totally consistent.

Dylan Young
Dylan Young

No one is preventing you from purchasing healthcare. Personally, I'm fine with using public funds to permanently institutionalize you.

Nathaniel Foster
Nathaniel Foster

I have a right to enslave others to give me their money so I can enslave a doctor to work on my body

Angel Smith
Angel Smith

Clean drinking water is a privilege, not a right.

Lucas Myers
Lucas Myers

Pay for a gun
Get a gun
Pay for healthcare
Get healthcare

what's the difference?

Dylan Torres
Dylan Torres

what even is this terrible meme trying to say? is it implying that the government just hands out guns for free? what the fuck man.

Ian Diaz
Ian Diaz

hey fuck face, nobody gets a gun for free, they pay for them just like healthcare. nobody is denying you healthcare, go buy it like I buy my guns. fuckin retard sage

Logan Allen
Logan Allen

Our country is too fat, ethnic, and retarded to insure you dipshit.

Josiah Sullivan
Josiah Sullivan

the right to force people to work because you want medical care

John Rogers
John Rogers

Did the gov't pay for that gentleman's gun?... I didn't think so.

Nicholas Turner
Nicholas Turner

Every animal in the world has a right to defend itself. Next time you get sick, try reminding the flu to check its priviledge instead of going to the doctor. You have no right to comfort. You have no rights at all if you cannot properly defend yourself.

Josiah Ross
Josiah Ross

be healthy
live healthy lifestyle
forced to pay more taxes so unhealthy irresponsible people can live longer

Levi James
Levi James

yeah it sure it weird that we protect your right to defend yourself but don't try to force other people to give you free services

Jacob Young
Jacob Young

Everyone deserves to die user

Nathaniel Russell
Nathaniel Russell

the first one is about other people being forced to pay for your healthcare

the second one is about paying for your own shit

Angel Clark
Angel Clark

Left drawing more false and fraudulent equivalencies.

Matthew Ortiz
Matthew Ortiz

Guns are affordable compared to healthcare

Jayden Diaz
Jayden Diaz

/thread

Bentley Gutierrez
Bentley Gutierrez

Natural rights like most of the bill of rights are very easy to comprehend. They define free people.

Think of it like this. If all modern conveniences went away, and you were a man left to fend for yourself, would you allow others to tell you what you can say or whether you can arm yourself?

The only right to healthcare might come about by putting a gun to another person's head and demanding they set your bone. This assumes they won't use their right to object or defend themselves from you.

Simple.

Cameron Bailey
Cameron Bailey

be american
die of diabetes

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Leo Green
Leo Green

You have as much right to BUY healthcare as you do to BUY guns.
Healthcare costs money, healthcare is NOT A RIGHT.

GO FUCK YOURSELF. I WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS EVERY CHANCE I GET . HEALTHCARE IS A SERVICE YOU PAY FOR.

FUCK YOU AND FUCK THIS THREAD.

NO.NO.NO.NO.NO

Hudson Hill
Hudson Hill

be commie
die of starvation

Xavier Ross
Xavier Ross

Due to subsidies and mandatory health insurance. Get rid of both and the price will plummet. Government and insurance guarantee prices will remain high due to guaranteed cash inflow, this disincentives health care providers from cutting their costs. And yes, there should be regulations on health insurance use just like other forms of insurance. You don't need your health insurance for every little booboo you get.

Josiah Torres
Josiah Torres

You're not entitled to other people's (the doctor's) labor. Get it thru your commie skull

Jacob Campbell
Jacob Campbell

be canadian
die of anal hemorrhage

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Caleb Powell
Caleb Powell

guns and healthcare are both privileges in that you have to be able to pay for both. You have the right to receive medical care like you have the right to purchase and own a gun

Easton Carter
Easton Carter

and faggot OP won't defend his alternative, hence
1 pbtid

Oliver Cook
Oliver Cook

Both are a right in the exact same way. You have a right to trade for a gun or medical care. You do not have a right to force someone to give you a gun or medical care for free. You also don't have a right to force someone else to pay someone to give you a gun or medical care. See how easy this is?

Christopher Thompson
Christopher Thompson

If you pay for something, you have it by right.
So guns are a right.
Healthcare is a right.
FREE healthcare is a privilege.

Cameron King
Cameron King

People who make this argument end up ruining both.

Kayden Scott
Kayden Scott

no they are both things you have to pay for

Gavin Gomez
Gavin Gomez

Healthcare is a RESPONSIBILITY.

Isaac Reyes
Isaac Reyes

I dont get free guns from the government I still have to buy my own.

No one has banned healthcare you have that right, you just have to pay for it faggot.

Mason Cruz
Mason Cruz

/thread

Jace Walker
Jace Walker

dang, even Ruskie gets. thumbs up!

Luke Phillips
Luke Phillips

Socialized medicine only works in an ethnically homogenous country in which all citizens participate in society with the goal of ensuring a future for their children.

We wouldn’t tolerate drug addicts or fat asses that use up all the tax payers money via healthcare. Fatasses would be forced into fatcamp or exiled and drug addicts would be forced into rehab or exiled.

If you were not a citizen who doesn’t work towards the genetic interests and surpremacy and evolution of our people you would be exiled. The only way socialized medicine or anything that is socialized is in non tolerant nationalistic homogenous societies like Nazi Germany. Nazi germany in the 30s was heaven on earth, it worked and if allowed to continue to flourish we would live in a much better world

Eli Rodriguez
Eli Rodriguez

You don't have the right to another human to take care of you
Yep, that was abolished. Are leftists taking aim at the 13th Amendment?

Jaxon Flores
Jaxon Flores

Where's my government supplied and supplemented AK?

Juan Hall
Juan Hall

you pay for the healthcare you can afford
you pay for the protection you can afford
What's the problem, was the gun free or something?

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Brandon Sullivan
Brandon Sullivan

2nd Amendment means free guns
Where do I go to collect mine?

John Flores
John Flores

Unless you've been born with a silver spoon in your mouth, there is no such thing as 'privilege' in real life.

Robert Perez
Robert Perez

If you don't have guns you'll wind up that guy in the hospital when a pack of feral groids do a home invasion on you

Anthony Gray
Anthony Gray

Guns are affordable compared to healthcare
Stupid fucking retarded leaf. My employer helps cover my healthcare so I'm covered up to the first $100,000 and it costs me about $50/month

Wyatt Ortiz
Wyatt Ortiz

Geez, that's actually a good point.

Lucas Johnson
Lucas Johnson

You have to pay for both. You can't be denied either.

Aiden Wood
Aiden Wood

checked
and agree

Justin Harris
Justin Harris

The reason you have trouble understanding is that you are lazy. You have the right to eat well. You have the right to take care of yourself. You don't have the right to free stuff from someone else. You see, your silly little image has nothing in common. Ugh, you can't make stupid see the truth. Try again comparing apples with apples. Until then back in your mom's basement basedboy.

Colton Bennett
Colton Bennett

Is that a jew doctor cutting the cock off of a large baby?

Ayden Rodriguez
Ayden Rodriguez

basedboy BS changing

Robert Miller
Robert Miller

You're leaving out the part where you are conflating a right with it being provided free of charge.
My right to own a gun doesn't demand your money to pay for it. Conversely I am certain your next statement will be that healthcare, as a right, needs to be provided free.

Pathetic meme and even worst argument. Go to bed faggot

Matthew Price
Matthew Price

You don't get a gun for free

Ryder James
Ryder James

Taxpayers paid for the roads they were transported on. I could go on but that's just one example.

Tyler Martin
Tyler Martin

Universal healthcare is an idea that even the founding fathers floated. Thomas Paine talked about in his book the rights of men. You'd know that if you actually read books and weren't a lemming Jow Forumstard.

Nathaniel Price
Nathaniel Price

arms are cheaper then blood
blood is the most valuable asset in this world.

Christopher Garcia
Christopher Garcia

Well. Fucking. Put.

Luke Peterson
Luke Peterson

child born with developmental disorder
genetic defects
sorry for throwing the real world into your perfect society, but not everyone is born healthy

Jacob Ramirez
Jacob Ramirez

the founders were a bunch of evil white slave owners who should be abolished from the public eye
except on this one thing I agree with

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Lincoln Price
Lincoln Price

Daddy gubament takes gud care of me
muh roads

Jackson Garcia
Jackson Garcia

An idea for white men, not niggers, spics, and chinks.
This lemming will end you.

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Cooper Gray
Cooper Gray

Please note that "a privilege" involves other people, while "a right" is something that involves only you alone.

Everyone has A RIGHT to defend yourself. You yourself is responsible for your own protection. This YOUR right.

MEDICAL CARE is a privilege because you are getting it from OTHER PEOPLE. You can't FORCE other people to do something for you --- you can only ask and hope they are kind enough to give it to you -- that's why this is a PRIVILEGE.

Nicholas Russell
Nicholas Russell

Retarded nigger tier argument. You have the right to both and you pay for both.

I'm not going to call the hospital because you won't learn anything if I do.

Sometimes you don't deserve healthcare... or a gun. I refuse to subsidize people's bodily harm from shitty decisions.

David Stewart
David Stewart

I literally don't see anything wrong with this image. I have a right to defend myself. I don't have a right to force someone to study for years and heal me when I get hurt.

Chase Allen
Chase Allen

Jesus, is/pol/ nothing but slide threads now?

Ethan Fisher
Ethan Fisher

You're supposed to grow out of libertarian anarcho capitalism at some point and realize that a modern and mature society should extend certain privileges to its members for the betterment of the whole, but Jow Forumstards like to assume it won't be them at some point at the mercy of jewed up healthcare system that will either deny them service when they need it most or fleece them of whatever meager wealth they have in order to get it.

Daniel Morgan
Daniel Morgan

Toothless in a corner, shivering and slowy deteriorating from preventable diseases, but at least you'll have ”muh guns" to protect you from the hypothetical tryanical government! But the guns have't done anything to save you from a jewed up healthcare system that’s been fucking you over has it?

Isaac Richardson
Isaac Richardson

Funny if we actually had a free market health care system you wouldn't have shit to whine about.

Jordan Hughes
Jordan Hughes

forcing someone to serve you vs buying a thing
What's their to defend

Cameron Garcia
Cameron Garcia

without civilization people like that would have died early

Carter Thompson
Carter Thompson

privatized health care has the rights to charge what they want. Gun owners have the rights to own fire arms. Where is the problem here?

David Martin
David Martin

fpbp

Eli Fisher
Eli Fisher

Without civilization you wouldn't be a Jow Forumstard so what's your point?

Jeremiah Young
Jeremiah Young

I didnt realize the government gave out taxpayer funded guns. Ive been buying my own this whole time dammit.

David Parker
David Parker

sounds good to me so i dont have to reply to weak faggots like you

Jason Miller
Jason Miller

It has done much more and is the ultimate deterent aganist levels of tyranny you have never seen before. Meanwhile you fags go on cancer marches and diabetes marchs and aids marches how about you fags actually march down monsatos.

Julian Rodriguez
Julian Rodriguez

I once floated the idea shutting on your front porch and lighting it on fire.
Doesn’t mean I floated it seriously.
Also,
Muh Thomas Payne
He got retarded after he dropped the idea of government being anything more than a necessary evil.

Gavin Cox
Gavin Cox

Idiot, We all have a RIGHT to heath care as long as we can pay the fee. FUCK OFF

Gavin Rogers
Gavin Rogers

I'm actually pro 2nd ammendment so it’s a false dichotomy that we should choose one or the other. That said, healthcare in this country is deeply flawed from both a financial and moral standpoint. You'd have to be literally retarded to defend it.

Ayden Moore
Ayden Moore

Doesn't know what a natural right is.
I am not demanding that the government give me a firearm.

Dominic Nguyen
Dominic Nguyen

I mean...you could have both. You don't have to take one away to have the other.

Hudson Carter
Hudson Carter

you somehow have a right to enslave someone who went to school for 10+ years because feelings

having a certain configuration of rocks is wrong mang

Adrian Gonzalez
Adrian Gonzalez

There are two people on the left.

Ethan Stewart
Ethan Stewart

Is any other public servant a slave because they're doing their job and getting paid in the process? This "slave" talking point is moronic.

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Jacob Bennett
Jacob Bennett

Would be a reasonable analogy if the government bought AR-15s for everyone.
sage

Julian Peterson
Julian Peterson

The government should buy everyone an AR-15.

Easton Robinson
Easton Robinson

Theres a difference between applying to be a public servant and being converted into one.

Just like the difference between applying to join the military and being drafted.

Adrian Hall
Adrian Hall

Every physician already takes the Hippocratic Oath and in many senses is a defacto public servant since no hospital can turn away a catastrophic patient and not at least stabilse them.

Hunter Wright
Hunter Wright

obvious bait is obvious
But there is a flaw in this meme.
The man on the right is not forcing anyone to give them a gun and has purchased it himself while the man on the left is forcing someone to purchase healthcare for them.
With all that said.
There is definitely a healthcare problem in the US.
It has many parts from ridiculously overpriced education to ridiculous amounts of legal bullshit thanks to malpractice lawsuits.
And all of the healthcare problems stem from one thing.
Jewry.
It's as simple as that.

Ethan Nguyen
Ethan Nguyen

Someone paying for my healthcare should be a right
Show picture of receiving healthcare

That's a woman for you, telling people they need to pay for her shit. You can get necessary treatment. You just have to pay for it.

Universal healthcare would cost anyway. Not women, since they just fucking leach off the system and will use the puss-puss to get men to vote them free shit. But if you think it's hard to find a "good man" now, wait till all their taxes are hovering around 45~50%. Why do women never consider how much things would cos--oh, oh yeah that's it.

Xavier Morales
Xavier Morales

You go to hospital, your ankle feels fucking broken and it's swollen to shit
Hospital treats your sprained ankle
Brings up insurance paperwork
Look at 3 illegals in beds getting IVs for being too drunk to walk
Overcharge your good insurance to cover the fucking illegals, hopefully
Insurance has a brokerage with hospital, deal is they pay only 60~70% of whatever price the hospital sends over as cost
Overcharging means hospital might be able to cover 1.5 "keep these useless people alive for a night before they drink rubbing alcohol"
repeat and keep hoping people have good insurance

Universal healthcare is a scam.

I worked at the Federal Highway admin in IT for a while. Know how many states spend even a cent of their allotted federal highway money on their roads?

Zero.

You want these people to spend tax money on healthcare? They won't.

Want to help the healthcare situation?

Kill the insurance brokers. Destroy the legislation around it. Deregulate the insurance companies. Break up large companies--for real, force them to just shutter buildings and lay off hundreds of people. Front small business loans for new insurance providers. Put some of our fucking tax money into making filing insurance easier for the hospitals and doctor's offices.

Want to simply relieve a lot of pressure on the healthcare system? Let insurance companies discriminate against weight. You're fucking fat? Guess what--your deductible is going way the fuck up.

Luis Adams
Luis Adams

I am sure 1770's health care was pretty cheap for everyone. Leg infection? Saw it off. Tooth ache? Pull it out.

Nolan Hernandez
Nolan Hernandez

free healthcare under tyranny is not better than expensive healthcare in a free state.

Xavier Jenkins
Xavier Jenkins

Dont have to buy a gun either,
And its still ok to buy 2 or 2000 firearms,
Or visit 0 or 1000 drs as your billfold allows.

Joshua Scott
Joshua Scott

I don’t get it. Do you want garbage free healthcare? I’d rather have healthcare I have to pay for that does what it’s supposed to do in a timely manner

Dominic Morales
Dominic Morales

False equivalence. No one has the right to A GUN. They have the right to OBTAIN, KEEP, and BEAR arms. We're not passing out Kalashnikovs, nigger.

Have kids.

Connor Gomez
Connor Gomez

What if I dont want to buy a gun?
You dont have to.
What if I dont want to buy healthcare?
Too bad.

What if I dont want a shity gun?
Buy a good one
What if I dont want shity healthcare?
You get what you get.

Brayden Clark
Brayden Clark

you dont get a free gun

Owen Flores
Owen Flores

unless the government seizes health care payments from you by force every year.

Easton Jenkins
Easton Jenkins

Primary Care Provider: Good Evening, I'm Dr. Malendebe. Could you describe the problem you're having?
Me: Your name is Dr. Toby
PCP: What? No, my name is Doctor Malendebe.
Me: Your name is Dr. Toby

Colton Myers
Colton Myers

this kind of leftist memes are really powerful and not stale at all, it is deep and made me think.

Wyatt Moore
Wyatt Moore

Lol have you been through the healthcare system? There are people with insurance that end up getting fleeced on top of subpar care.

Blake Collins
Blake Collins

A fucking leaf
Don't protect / hinder the healthcare system with regulation, a huge barrier for entry level work and chaining customers and insurance companies together with stupid ass laws, and it won't be a problem.

Zachary Green
Zachary Green

You have the right to own a gun as in no one can prevent you from doing so if you fork over the cash. The same is true for healthcare. The 2nd Amendment doesn't mean everyone gets free guns every year, retard.

James Martinez
James Martinez

both are garbage user
state healthcare
bad service coupled with paying more taxes and getting a corrupt ineffective system
private healthcare
still bad service coupled with absolutely insane prices for the smallest shit so the (((insurance companies))) can get rich

You're still fucked. Ban insurance and that would be a step forward.

Carter Anderson
Carter Anderson

Notice how one requires the labor of another person and not the other?

John Peterson
John Peterson

And they pay for the roads the ambulance drove you into the hospital on, what's your point stupid?

Kevin Peterson
Kevin Peterson

You don't get a free gun. You're free to get a gun if you want. Same with healthcare. There, we've achieved parity.

Nicholas Bennett
Nicholas Bennett

You JEWS are the scum of the world

Jackson Myers
Jackson Myers

You still have to pay for both.

Aiden Walker
Aiden Walker

Lotta people itt arguing you don't have a right to someone's labor yet the 6th amendment guarantees you a trial, jury, and lawyer (when charged with crime).
Could the health care equivalent be the right to a doctor or medical care but only if the injury is due to a criminal offense?

Ayden Evans
Ayden Evans

Pass the constitutional amendment then

Oh wait you keep trying to bypass it through the courts

Angel Edwards
Angel Edwards

What if nobody wants to provide health care

Gabriel Campbell
Gabriel Campbell

This

Easton Mitchell
Easton Mitchell

paying for your own guns is equivalent to gibs

Ayden Fisher
Ayden Fisher

No doctor takes their oath seriously.
Nobody wants to make money.

Oliver Stewart
Oliver Stewart

Not a leftist or in favor of it friend, just pointing out the constitution already has language that guarantees us right to someone else's labor under certain conditions
We already get guaranteed emergency room access for medical screenings as long as you have a "medical condition", one could easily stretch the system to include coverage on criminally induced injury

Isaac Carter
Isaac Carter

USA NECESITA EL PERONISMO ARGENTINO.

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