9mm or .45 ACP

10mm is best mm.

Top Tier
>10mm Auto
>357 SIG
>9mm Luger
High Tier
>9mm Dillon
>.380 ACP
>.45 Super
Mid Tier
>9mm Makarov
>.38 Super
>.40 S&W
Low Tier
>5.7mm FN
>7.62 Tokarev
>.32 ACP
Shit Tier
>.25 ACP
>.45 ACP

>45mm ammo
>shit tier

>.25 ACP
>lower than .22 mag

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Top Tier
>357 SIG
>9mm Luger
>9mm Makarov
>7.62 Tokarev
>10mm Auto
High Tier
>.45 ACP
Mid Tier
>.40 S&W
Low Tier
>.380 ACP
>5.7mm FN
Shit Tier
>.25 ACP
>.32 ACP
Literally What? Tier
>.38 Super
>.45 Super
>9mm Dillon

FTFY

I have no idea why anyone would choose 45 over 10mm.
I mean 9mm is okay, small guns and controllable.

.40 my guy, muy fuego

Holy shit!
Someone posted a list I completely agree with. That's a first.

.45
Self defense data shows that most shootings involve only a few rounds being fired.
Having 9 rounds of .45 is more than enough for me, and it's more deadly than 9mm.

9mm fanboys will rage and bitch, and insist that 9mm is perfect, with every advantage and zero disadvantages, because it's perfect,
and some magical amorphous concept called "muh modern holla points" means a smaller lighter round with less powder behind it gets a magical free lunch at the lethality lunchroom,
but they're all retards who usually think "energy transfer" has something to do with lethality, like it shocks people to death or something.

This, only because of meth heads. Started switching out the 9s for 45s for ccw.
Keeping the 9 for home defense.

God Tier
.73 caliber lead ball

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but user 9mm is supersanic so it might be louder

>Literally What? Tier
Lurk more.
.38 Super is just a doule stack 1911 meme. Mexicans love it so it goes by .38 Taco Supreme.
.45 Super is .45 AARP but redesigned for modern materials, it's slightly stronger than 10mm, but of course low capacity.
9mm Dillon, 9x25mm, is to 10mm as .357 SIG is to .40 Short & Weak. Fragmentation velocity has been acheived with some meme loads in Glock 40s.

They are both fine. The differences are negligible. Debates over such a thing are a cancer of online gun communities, where people just repeat bullshit they read in an effort to justify their purchases.

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>not placing 380 and 9x18 in the same category
it's the same cartridge numbnuts

Firearm selection you quadruple nigger.

.45 is too much recoil for me. I don't like it.

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I would agree with you user but I don't think we can argue against that get

Who's this cunny bunny?

Kiernan Shipka filename in first img

She's 2old now but not bad.

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If only there was a secret clue hidden in the file name...

.45

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.22 for spiders, scorpions, snakes and other varmints
9mm semiauto for regular self-defense
.357 for more difficult self defense situations
.45 acp for heavy duty self defense situations

Yea that would be helpful

What exactly would be more difficult/heavy self defense scenarios?

Aliens with projectile shields that block supersonic objects.
Yes I have had this fantasy before.

pcp-fueled nog riots and angry bears

.45 ACP cause it can make a god damn one inch entry hole in your fucking chest

luckygunner.com/45-acp-230-gr-jhp-winchester-ranger-t-series-50-rounds#geltest

>a .45 inch bullet makes a 1 inch entry hole

You shoot scorpions and spiders with .22?

Look at the gel tests you fucking moron there is barely any neck on that shit its expanding to over an inch almost instantly

It's really not.

DYEL?

I I dont. Also previous wrist injury as well and I don't see enough benefits to justify the recoil.

>Comparing gel to actual human flesh
Brainlet.jpg

I fetishize small penis humiliation. Which chambering will make the most cute boys suggest I have a little cock?

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jesus christ all you have is green text and retarded insults...fucking useless

Well, .45 is a dumb low-pressure round, so I guess 9.
Why can't I have .357sig or 9x25?

Are you shooting .45 super in a lightweight CC? My defender is supreme sex.

Nope. Springshit 1911

.40

>
Not an argument

.45 acp is the only reason we buy it for

>complaining about 1911 recoil
You see, it'd be one thing if it were a polymer gun, but a full sized steel gun is slapping you around?

Guess I'm a pussy dude. Don't know what to tell you I'm not going to bother lying online.

I have a cz sp01 and a USPc and they just feel much better to me.

If you can't handle 1911 recoil, then you should buy a .22lr pistol.

Nice legs desu

>hit placement
For me it's 9x19 SP, but .45 is OK as well.

There's no substitute for real world use. That said, gel tests are what the authorities in this subject use.

9 Dillon might be a Literally What Tier cartridge, but that ain't meaning it isn't one of the most ballistically effective rounds out there.

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I'm personally disgusted by autists shilling that anything less than two sticks of 18 rounds is a tactical liability. I'm not John Wick, I'm not John Wicking 30 nog's, and I'm not shooting from Central Axis Relock. That shit is memery; I'd rather take 8 rounds of .45 or .32acp, something that I can shoot easily and make work for me, rather than having some Glock jump around as I spazz out firing into who knows what. Plus, I'm pretty damn sure having that much ammo, and more importantly, firing that much ammo, is just asking to get bent over and fucked by the court.

Stop arguing with Satan user

.45 because I shoot it better tbqh.

>too old now

I like Mad Men too user

>45mm for aliens with projectile shields that block supersonic objects

Fucking got me

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I've never even watched it. I just drooled over Kiki pics on /tv/