North Hollywood bank shootout

In this thread, we discuss the weaponry, equipment, and tactics utilized by the North Hollywood bank robbers on February 28, 1997.

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>north hollywood shooters invented terrorwave
>mfw

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Shit was badass lol

I’ll still never understand
>1,100 rounds
>most (if not all) fired
>no kills

It was almost certainly sheer dumb luck, but I like to think that the reason no civs died was because they were actively avoiding targeting them if they could help it.

No police died either. Literally no one died except the robbers.

They were just trying to escape

They were using a shrubmaster, it's no surprise they got no one

retard

I always thought that the robbers were just putting out suppression fire to act as a deterrent.

Probably desu

Theres no way of knowing, but it seems most plausible. There were plenty of opportunities they could have plugged a cop or two, but chose not to either because they were only interested in a getaway, or the pills they were on had fucked their judgement enough that they just didn't think of it.

Wasn't this their SOP for previous robberies?
Overwhelm with fire and escape?
Also does anyone have any actual evidence or stuff to read about the gun store getting in hot water for letting the officers use their rifles?

They had actually killed a security guard on their last robbery, so it’s not out of the realm of possibility that they were attempting to kill law enforcement; nevermind the fact that they had an opportunity to escape when they left the bank but decided not to take it.

Postan

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It's a shame something like North Hollywood will never happen again. Banks aren't worth it for criminals anymore and LE responses are overwhelming.

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They really fucked everything for heist cri.inals after them

Apparently inspired by "Heat" which was a damn good but also tragically sad movie

sorta ended the same way too

Basically. The only thing that happens is a crackhead slipping a note and running off with $1000. Takeovers with long guns aren't a thing anymore sadly.

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How much training did these guy have?

they were both experienced bank robbers

It's expected to happen, as sad as it is. How many times do you see trains being hijacked for example? I think one of the few things that relatively speaking won't change are ship raiding, but now that ships tend to have PMC's in hostile waters it requires a bit more nuance.

Yeah, sounds cliche but looks like something out of a HOLLYWOOD movie.

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The only thing that's left standing are armored cars. Everything else is almost impossible or the reward just isn't worth it.

That honestly hasn't crossed my mind, probably needs a ton of luck and planning for it to work though, some crazy logistics needed to pull that off. You think we keep the glow in the darks reading these threads up at night with shit like this?

Not too much planning. Lots of luck and timing.

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Heat makes me want to build a Model 733 clone pistol

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Disable the vehicle and overwhelm the occupants. I know it's easier said than done though. I had an old pdf in my collection about bank robbery. Helon gas fire suppression system under the truck chokes the engine. Then cement saw the doors open or force the occupants out with AP rounds. Those windshields are bullet resistance not bullet proof

You're glowing, lad.

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pdf where?

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I'm not suggesting you do anything that could get you in trouble or hurt anyone.. Just trying to contribute to a cool thread

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I got it from TPB. Uploaders name was "x_donttreadonme_x" or something. Had a bunch of shit about survival and machine guns and surveillance and the like. Dude hasn't posted since 2009 last I checked so I figure he's spending time in club fed

found it, looks interesting
thx m8

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It's an interesting read. Stay out of trouble lad and enjoy

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With GPS as it is today, hijacking a train is pretty much impossible.

I always wondered how in the hell these guys got hit so many times and didn't go down. I know they had home made body armor but you'd think the kinetic energy from it would fuck their shit up pretty good.

Do it. SBR it too, or at least make it a pistol

hopped up on muscle relaxants iirc

Remember that al the energy doesn’t go into a single point, as armor flexes. Also not all of the bullet’s energy is transferred, as bullets often still ricochet away at reletively high speeds.

IIRC, they piled on the armour. Layer upon layer upon layer. To a point where most rounds shot by the police bounced off of them.

That and the cops only had pistols until towards the end.

Adrenaline and barbiturates are a hell of a drug.

It still shocks me how just underpowered police weapons were as late as '97 and SWAT never showed early enough to make a difference.I mean a lot of 'em were still carrying .38 specials as their primary?

No hits found?

Even "AK bandit" was caught - for the time he was got the fame of those N.Hollywood robbers.

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I've read into his case. Dude is gonna get crucified.

I'm pretty sure bank robbers like him have it pretty good in jail though

Him shooting at LEOs will probably help too. He fucked up during the phone call.
>checked

c-cuz the banks a-are the criminals!

pls upvote this spread the truth

They were actually wire tapped and we heard them planning an executing the robbery.

My man Inf left a Tec and a nine at my crib
Turned himself in, he had to do a bid
A one-to-three, he be home the end of '93
I'm ready to get this paper, G, you with me?

Motherfucking right, my pocket's looking kind of tight
and I'm stressed, yo Biggie let me get the vest

No need for that, just grab the fucking gat
The first pocket that's fat the Tec is to his back
Word is bond, I'm a smoke him yo don't fake no moves (what?)
Treat it like boxing: stick and move, stick and move

Nigga, you ain't got to explain shit
I've been robbing motherfuckers since the slave ships
with the same clip and the same four-five
Two point-blank, a motherfucker's sure to die
That's my word, nigga even try to bogart
have his mother singing "It's so hard..."

Yes, love love you're fucking attitude
because the nigga play pussy that's the nigga that's getting screwed
and bruised up from the pistol whipping
webs on the neck from the necklace stripping
Then I'm dipping up the block and I'm robbing bitches too
up the herring bones and bamboos
I wouldn't give fuck if you're pregnant
Give me the baby rings and a #1 MOM pendant

I'm slamming niggas like Shaquille, shit is real
When it's time to eat a meal I rob and steal
'cos Mom Duke ain't giving me shit
so for the bread and butter I leave niggas in the gutter
Huh, word to mother, I'm dangerous
Crazier than a bag of fucking Angel Dust
When I bust my gat motherfuckers take dirt naps
I'm all that and a dime sack, where the paper at?

Big up, big up, it's a stick up, stick up
and I'm shooting niggas quick if you hiccup
Don't let me fill my clip up in your back and head piece
The opposite of peace sending Mom Duke a wreath
You're talking to the robbery expert
Stepping to your wake with your blood on my shirt
Don't be a jerk and get smoked over being resistant
'cos when I lick shots the shits is persistent

Look here takin your shit is like taking your bitches
Quick as I spin this is as quick as she get
Nigga I'm a ridah and that's on this
We ain't gon' dip until we get them chips
We splits the shit up, what I folds
Got a army full of doggs and soldiers full of loccs
Two hundred spokes witta pocket full of notes
Banktellers wit my hand around the throat
Reach for my Colt but on another note
I gotta shake the spot, they just called the cops, hmm
Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide
I point my pistols at the pig, die motherfucker die

Bushmaster back in the day was as good as colt ar you retard

No seeders, can't get

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IT'S PAYNE

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>Tactics
Literally just walk in, shoot guns, grab money, leave
Also your biggest ally in a heist is luck, which needless to say, was not on their side from the second they hopped out the car

That's what happens when you're fucking LIT on muscle relaxers
Hell even moderately sedated most struggle to do a push up, let alone control automatic fire

I saw an episode on "Almost got away with it" about an old dude who robbed banks. He just scouted them out and found small ones with only girls. He'd show up when it was not busy at all and ask to see the manager inquiring about business loans or something. He'd whip out a revolver and force them all into the bathroom or closet and lock the door. Only reason he got caught was he forgot to lock it one time and the chicks got out and called the cops and he hadn't even left the parking lot. Seems like if you planned your shit and weren't retarded slow you could pull it off and get the money in the till. You'd have to take their phones and you probably would need to wear face covering straight in the door but it'd still be possible.

My hometown, Monroe WA, had a bank robbery conducted by my football coach at the time. Anthony Curcio, pretty neat story. Totally clusterfucked the cops.

90% of the reason people get caught in stupid simple crimes are because they don't cover their tracks properly. There was an AMA on reddit from a bank robber and all he did was go into the bank and ask for all the money on a note. They would give it to him and he'd leave. Only got 'caught' when he turned himself in.

So it was like a GI Joe episode?

Literally no tactics beyond shoot in every direction and walk around aimlessly. Equipment are shitty home made bullet proof suits made by tweakers. Weapons are illegally converted poorfag shit.

Watch the docudrama, they don't even use that or the HK Dumbass.

just stick to ganking trap houses and weedbiz in CO. those nogs don't call the cops and no one gives a shit if they end up dead.

I’m convinced these guys were some MKultra shit to militarize the police. One of them even had brain surgery one month before the robbery and both were drugged Out.

Between this and Columbine, why did the late 90s have such aesthetic shootings compared to now?

>shitty home made bullet proof suits

From what I heard, those suits were actually extremely effective and stopped multiple pistol rounds each.

You ain't alone, brother.

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They stopped 00 buckshot, they were surprisingly well-made.

sigh....(you)

It was a few months ago, but I've actually been to the bank.

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The bank itself appears to have been remodeled, but the locksmith shop across the street is still there.

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That appears to be my shot of the dentist's office where a wounded officer was stabilized.

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The wall on the edge of the property has what appear to be covered up bullet impacts. If these are in fact from the shooting they would have been stray hits from the police.

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They might not be bullet impacts at all but they are all over the place.

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Injun casinos are nice soft targets. Usually a bit out of the way and that cuts down on SWAT response.

Fuck me, I used to drive past this all the time when I worked an Ambulance (BLS rig, taking grandma to dialysis and such)

6600 Laurel Canyon Blvd. Not particularly tough to find. I tried looking up the location of the Newhall shooting while I was at it but didn't get a conclusive answer, although there is a memorial plaque for it miles from the actual location.

>I tried looking up the location of the Newhall shooting while I was at it but didn't get a conclusive answer,
That area has changed a LOT since 1970. It used to be the middle of nowhere. Now... not so much. It wouldn't surprise me if literally everything that used to stand there had been torn down and there just wasn't anything left to see.

Oh shit nigga

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How was their armor made? How could it be improved?

You might be right, faggot.

The Tbilisi bank robbery by Stalin lasted 3 days. The Tirana bank robbery was performed with a t-55 tank.

Big bold bank robberies arent a thing anymore.

had one seeder for like two seconds
got my hopes up