Once and for all, which are the better new production guns?
What evidence is there that the Ruger is any more durable than the smith?
686 vs GP100
Luis Fisher
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Leo Mitchell
A Gp100 isn't gonna be appreciably any stronger or longer lasting than a 686. The ruger strong meme comes from their hawk line which are way more overbuilt.
Jeremiah Edwards
And why the fuck would you limit yourself to new production smith when you could get a much nicer gun for the same money buying vintage?
Camden Edwards
This. I have a no dash 686 I bought for $600 and would never even think about buying a new production one instead.
New GP-100s are pretty good, though. New Smiths are like Taurus tier now.
Tyler Butler
Of those two particular models, the Smith is probably more durable. The difference is insignificant because both are overbuilt for the caliber.
Carson Parker
Either of you guys know where I can find a SW Model 49 in good condition? Preferably with a buy now option.
Zachary Barnes
>Once and for all, which are the better new production guns?
Before ruger introduced the 7 shot Gp100 it would have been a toss up for practical use. Now IMHO it's the gp100. I've never personally owned one but i have owned a security six and a new production 686 pro series. The fit and finish of the 686 was fucking sad for the price they charge on them(900+), but i can't be too mad as it allowed me to get a pretty good price on one with almost no rounds through it.
>What evidence is there that the Ruger is any more durable than the smith?
It's almost entirely anecdotal. The ruger has more metal so it *should* be stronger in that sense, and it locks up on more points that the smith too. OTOH the 686+ is supposed to lock up stronger than the 686 standard so that may make them a little closer in that respect, but this is all theory. Qualitatively speaking high volume shooters seem to have fewer issues running steady diets of magnums through GPs, but that will eventually wear any gun down if you shoot enough hotter loads and it isn't exactly like 686s are breaking down left and right.
IDK where you live but most pre lock smiths go for a premium.
Brody Baker
Model 686 all day.
I bought one like 5 years ago when they were 1k
Now they are like 600
Luis Carter
There's literally zero evidence that new Smiths are any worse than old smiths besides morons whining about the lock.
Lincoln Evans
Case hardened trigger/hammer and a smoother action. Not to mention when you buy a used gun, the resale value doesn't immediately drop to 2/3 what you paid for it.