Let's play a little game

Pick any 2 things in the gun community that shits in your salad and shit on it back. Don't be afraid to take other anons subjects but cook up your own beef stew.

Kel-Tec
Guns popular to a certain group of dipshits who think they're good but in reality are the worlds biggest crap chute. They're always flawed or delayed, never found in local shops and are collectivley one astronimocal meme.

Serbu
Budget bullshit codesigned by a cringe worthy cuckopathic teen sperglord.

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Hasguns Membership ++ (life member)
Basically, hasguns that have quality firearms and flaunt it in the faces of noguns, poorfags, or even other hasguns.
>inb4 t. poorfag

Springfield
They only put out the same thing every year, but manage to make them worse and worse every time.

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The endless douchey takes on the fucking Punisher logo, flag, and MORON LABIA. This is why I shoot alone.

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Gucci ARs
Pointless investment with little to no better quality than a $500 M&P 15. If SHTF, they'll be the first to go in the most embarrassing ways, like slipping off a roof or bleeding out from a single pistol gunshot to the arm from some some retard who's never handled a gun before because they have literally zero medical training.

"SCAR-H stock looks like an ugg boot looooll XD!!!"
Mouthbreathing poorfag retards who've never handled a SCAR before and don't understand that fuction > form 99% of the time.

You could say the same about gucci 1911s.

I tell you what bothers me, is memesters shitposting about how the SCAR is shit because the stock is plastic and therefore fragile when I dont think theres a single recorded case of a SCAR stock breaking. Though to be fair there were issues with the stock latch for a while, but that's unrelated to what the shitposters fixate on.

1911s aren't a relevant platform anymore though.
That one gets me as well but I haven't seen anyone saying that for a while now.

>Glocks are garbage
They're reliable and they do nearly everything you'd want from a pistol well. Stop shitting on Glock to shill your new polymer alternative.

>Caliberfags
Who the fuck cares? Anything you shoot at someone is probably going to work for EDC. Any gun is leaps and bounds better than no gun at all.

> Hi points are bad
Hi points were designed to be a cheap method for personal protection. In that, they succeed phenomenally. They’re not competing with Glock or Sig or 1911. They’re for poorfags who value protection.

>I want to put a scope on my rifle, have no idea how to zero it, then bitch about it being inaccurate because I just dialed up the magnification and ballparked the distance.
Self explanatory

is it? is it really why you shoot alone?
are you sure you don't think about how fun it would be to go back and clean guns together?
sure you wouldn't take satisfaction in knowing you have what it takes to operate as a team and that somebody has your back?

>Gucci
no tactical benefit, just good for people trying to showcase their own powerlevel
which is a good way to collect the wrong attention

Is it ok for me to just have a plain white (small) molon labe sticker on my car? Or is it the big gay?

Gucci ARs are like the ricers of guns right?

I don’t like people who shit on 1911s indiscriminately.

> (small) sticker
> (small) gay
i would never store a weapon or anything else stealable in a marked car, but if you like it

People who complain about the 1911's viability.

People who blame poor marksmanship on the platform.

I'm sure your single-stack century old design of a brick is very relevant in modern days.

i think the glocknade thing is annoying

thats all. most reliable "new" handgun on the planet

Really just the level of hostility that some people exhibit. It really puts people off. Newfags who only own one or two guns they bought on a whim and nogunz who are interested in buying their first get slammed pretty hard so they tend to leave instead of asking for or following advice. We were all there at some point and we have all learned a lot since, so there's no sense in shitting on someone who doesn't know the difference between an AKM and a Type 2 Milled AK-49 or other pedantic bullshit like that. Teach instead and they'll learn. Shit on them and they'll leave.

The poltard flood ever since 2016 is also literal cancer. It has created a highly insular and hostile environment where people can't discuss or enjoy weapons or military history without a deluge of racism and a radical right political witch-hunt. I can guarantee I'll get a slew of (you)s calling me out as a leftypoll cuck or a newfag because "Jow Forums has always been racist and an armed wing of Jow Forums" but it's never been this bad and we haven't had this level of thought policing before. It's a complete confirmation of horseshoe theory.

And why is this a problem? Well, gun rights are an uphill battle. Every time we take lose something we have to work 10x harder to get it back. We need allies. We need numbers. We can't be picky.
If people associate gun ownership with an exclusively white, openly racist and mentally unstable treehouse where normies aren't allowed then they'll probably want to see guns banned.
If people see gun ownership as a right that everyone has and we act as good ambassadors, encouraging people to be educated about shooting sports, hunting, defense and history then we have better odds of not being divided and conquered.

It's just that not everyone who thinks guns are interesting or is considering buying one and learning to shoot it for protection is white, or male, or straight, or right-wing and the vast majority of everyone is disgusted by the 1488 bullcrap.

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Just to clear some air, i only made this as a good ol' shit talkin board. No one should feel hostility, join the fray and kick somebody in the nuts. Also, if you have questions, have at it.

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tl;dr

Dumb eddy poster

oof, got em

Newfag

Pistol grip shotgun for home defense fags. It's possibly the worst option for this application.

DUDE DID YOU KNOW LIKE THAT LIKE .50 BMG WOULD DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO HIT YOU TO KILL YOU HUUUUUURRRRRRR

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Don’t be a dick to nogunz or new hazguns because it could scare them off

Whereas you and your polymer wundergun are a real shaker and mover, right? A true decider, driving policy and bending reality to your will.

Why do you feel compelled to try telling other anons what they should be shooting? Is it because they like something you don’t like, and they need to stop it immediately?

This, it’s just a gun made by the holy father.

I'm not telling you what you should be shooting, I am saying that other guns are more practical in various scenarios. You don't need to make the handle of a spatula solid metal when polymer would hold up perfectly fine and cut down both weight and cost significantly.

The incessant rejection of "wildcat" or "unicorn" cartridges that are innovative and have good ballistics is why the market is saturated with ARs and 9mm handguns. Newsflash, they wouldn't be so rare and expensive if people actually shot with them. Most people go to the range at most once every other month anyway, it's not that big of a deal to buy better ammo.
Sheepdawgs shilling tacticool garbage are almost as bad as the hunting community equivalent where "you to to get this and this and that to bag your game because I shot a durr on teebee!". People have shot animals and people with muskets and homemade lead balls. I don't think that anyone "needs" your shitty molon labe hat. I also don't think anyone outside of impulse buyers really wants them either.

Hey, kid I know you like gun'snstuff but I've had guns alot longer than you and served in the military. There is not such thing as an MP-10 Hurr, even if it did exist you wouldn't want one you should stick to bolt actions Hurr. The pride of ownership Hurr.

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>I am saying that other guns are more practical in various scenarios.

The overwhelming percentage of scenarios that guns get used in are target shooting. In that scenario, whatever gun the shooter prefers is the optimum choice for that shooter in that scenario. Now, if you’re going to spiel off a whole list of tactical applications, save your breath. Defensive shoots, of any nature, have one hard and fast rule- you shoot what you brung. You may not want to get into a gunfight when you only have a 5 shot .38 snubbie loaded with wadcutters in your boot, but that’s what you have so that’s what you use. It boils down to personal preference. If somebody wants to CC a Colt SAA, that’s their business. It’s what they prefer, so it’s the right gun for them. You are not the ultimate arbiter of practicality for every other shooter on the planet.

I got beef with people who got beef with Gucci guns. Lots of people have a basic, reliable rifle or pistol that they would trust and use in a defensive scenario. They then go beyond that and buy/build highly aesthetic, expensive and over the top guns that they enjoy just because they can. No reason to shit on them.

People who can't even hold a Whopper complaining about the 1911 not being a perfectly fine handgun.

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The problem I have is when someone spends thousands on a gun they can't even use properly "just because they can!!!"
>FUDDY FIVE IS ALL YOU NEED BOI
also you're one of the fucking worst tripfags

Might be a gimmick gun but ive been looking at finding a keltec PMR30 just because a pistol with 30rds. of .22mag sounds fun...

>shits on Gucci ARs
>defends the SCAR
The absolute state.....
Glock
Everyone who sucks glock cock like it's Gods own. Glocks are boring guns, you can have a reliable, nice handgun for the same price/weight/ammo cap as a glock.
Howa
Fuckin fagmuffins shit on howa cause it's not remington despite howa being far better quality wise.
Knives
Söy böys who don't carry a knife, also that fuckin boomer last week who was surprised that I carried a knife and a gun. Stop fuckin attacking people for what they carry, unless it's glocks.
full auto
Folks who own guns but don't think full auto should be deregulated. The fuck is wrong with you?!
Guns in cars
Don't leave your gun in the car!
I hear this shit all the time from people "I carry a high point so when it gets stolen out of my glove box I don't lose much". It won't get stolen if you keep it with you!

>People insisting that all your guns have to have a practical purpose/be purely utilitarian
No shit my mosin sucks for hunting communist taliban across the yukon. I bought it because it makes me smile when I pick it up. It's okay to have guns for fun.
>People attempting to justify every one of their guns with a practical purpose
Your several thousand dollar riced out glock really any better for CC, and you could have bought a spare and practice ammo for the price. Your Kar88 is not a good hunting rifle.
Saying "I bought it because I like it" is far better than trying and failing to find a practical reason.

$500 rifle with $2000 of attachments =/= ~$3000 battle rifle

Ok

People who really love Glocks
People who really hate Glocks

A scar is just a Gucci semi .308 and everyone knows it
Guns that are just as good for less than half the scar price

>leftypoll cuck

1911's
4,500 dollars of wasted money that could have bought you 30 hipoints or dozens of better guns.

Olay but come on how come they cant look just a little less dumb? For that price point its a mix matched colpred clump of shapes that shoots A- good.

>If SHTF, they'll be the first to go in the most embarrassing ways, like slipping off a roof or bleeding out from a single pistol gunshot to the arm from some some retard who's never handled a gun before because they have literally zero medical training.
retarded baseless assumptions / projection. Just looking on this board a ton of gucci AR posters are gear queers that at least have shit like tourniquets. I would bet $10000 that gucci AR owners on average are more "medically aware" than your average $500 budget AR owner.

Infucking hate fanboys in general. If you start blindly favoring a brand over others and act like your shit is the end all be all of guns you're not a fucking enthusiast.
Also cop apologists who call themselves libertarians. I shouldn't have to explain why they should die in a fucking fire.

people who needlessly hate modern """gucci""" guns. They call all but the most basic of ARs impractical (despite the fact that when you look at pictures of any special forces unit who actually uses the things for a living their guns are "riced out" as fuck"). As for some things they hate
>optics
I shouldnt have to explain why magnified optics like acogs are useful. As for red dots they are fast and no the battery wont randomly run out, they battery life is measured in years.
>weapon mounted lights
how is being able to identify what you're about to shoot at not practical?
>free floated barrels / handguards
maybe its just because im a precision rifle shooter but free floating will make a significant accuracy difference
>weapon mounted IR lasers
if you have night vision it should be fucking obvious why this is useful
They then almost without fail make up this strawman (like in ) where they paint anyone that owns """gucci""" guns as bumbling idiots that cant shoot/have 0 marksmanship ability/no practical skills etc etc. I have trouble trying to understand the mindset of these people. Is it just poorfag sour grapes or something?
They will also call anyone with anything "tactical" a larper as if they are purely practical unlike those gucci AR owners, but then they go out and buy a mosin or some other milsurp because of the history behind it when if they were making a purely practical purchase they would be better served with a new production savage rifle or something.
>The problem I have is when someone spends thousands on a gun they can't even use properly "just because they can!!!"
like what? I really dont understand you guys, what gucci parts make it so someone who can use a basic $500 AR just fine suddenly cant use the gun properly because its too gucci?

The .40S&W meme irritates the ever loving shit out of me. Not the shitposting on here, but the retards in real life. It's universally comprised of the butthurt of 9mm and .45 owners trying to cling to the advantages of their rounds. They can't help but do that vegan level shit where they HAVE to come up to you at the range or LGS and tell you that you should have gotten a different caliber handgun.

I don't give a fuck what meme excuse you have about why your round is better than mine. I literally can't give a shit. I bought it because I like it, not to win brownie points with some jumped up faggot who buys into every stupid bullshit article about guns. At least the shitposts online are funny.

And secondly, I fucking hate the BUILT NAWT BOUGHT community in guns - specifically ARs. Like, I get it, you can build an AR cheaper than you can buy one. Fine. I can also just invest my time into more productive ventures like working overtime to buy more guns and accessories or reloading. It takes at least 4 hours to properly put together an AR at my skill level and that's $200 dollars worth of my work time. Fuck that.

Call me lazy, I don't give a shit.

>The .40S&W meme irritates the ever loving shit out of me
I dont get it either
>10mm is fine but .40 is too "snappy"
>.45 is fine but .40 doesnt have enough magazine capacity
I prefer 9mm myself but the retards that hate .40 give the shittiest arguments against it

It's maddening, dude. There are advantages and disadvantages to all three of the rounds. Completely ignoring the advantages of .40 because "lol cucked 10mm" or "fat heavy round" is dumb as fuck. It's literally a perfect middle ground between 9mm and .45.

And, again, the shitposting online is fucking funny. I can't wait to see people spurg out over these three posts. I just can't stand the people that feel compelled to do it in real life. ESPECIALLY when they're some soft beta bitch or a fat body.

>Thinks full auto should be deregulated
>Bitches about trunk guns

These should be mutually inclusive friend. If you have no problem with your average idiot having a full auto, you should have no problem about him keeping a gun in the car.

Likewise if you think people shouldn't keep guns in their car because of obvious reasons (I agree with you) why are you advocating that FA be so easily accessible?

Btw, I don't really think FA should be easily accessible. Too many retards.

I do think, however, that proper non-registry type laws in place, along with cost exclusivity, should allow for civilian ownership. Maybe 10 grand for a FA m4 or something like that, and a type of obtainable FFL license

Not that user, but full auto is really only an advantage for suppressive fire. I don't see Tyrone or a school shooter manlet gaining any advantage from it. I personally don't have a problem with trunk guns, but if you live in a big city like I do, it's a stupid idea with how often people break into parked cars to steal stuff.

>it's another "JUST AS GOOD!!!" post
they match the outline of the gun well
the majority of gucci AR owners and gear queers on here are brainlets and I wouldn't trust them to treat a scraped knee

Public Ranges
Full of obese psychotics muzzle sweeping everyone and wearing 5.11 shit

Companies founded entirely around making retarded glock mods

Jow Forumsommandos having a meltdown of a new hazguns purchase or shitting on nogunz

Why do you retards think this community is shrinking again?

its sad

When a gun company deliberately makes a horrible product and they try and justify it by saying that it's still under the 2nd amendment.

Think Remington or I.O.

guccifags that shit on everything
scar haters
people from reddit who hate frogs and anime

And Glocks.
>spends thousands on modifications, then turns around and trys to justify why it just NDed from being shaken to hard. That or trys to blame Glock for something their aftermarket trigger caused.

Same with the signade. The Glock one though is probably the cringiest though given it a problem in only a few models for about one generation, and required overpressured ammo to happen.

guy you're replying to here

sig is different

it literally fails drop tests

anime is garbage

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Hadn't given much though to Serbu til you mentioned it. I just checked out their site.

>has a "super-shorty" shotgun listed
>going for 1050 fucking dollars

What a bunch of dumbfucks.

I thought I would buy the gun if it were going somewhere around $700, but this is just ridiculous.

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>platform

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Nice blog faggot.

I would buy you a beer if I could.

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This is the kind of post you get, when you let low-T betas continually inhabit the board. Newsflash: we don't want leftist retards here. We don't want them at the range. We don't want them anywhere. So do us all a favor and kys and fuck off.

what the fuck else would you call it

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People who feel the need to put others down for enjoying harmless things and are just full of hate because they have to feel right and superior all the time

A fucking gun you hipster faggot

But user, he wasn't referring to a particular gun, but rather a whole set of guns based off of the 1911 design. It would be like calling all AR's the same 'gun,' when it is, in fact, the "AR platform," which has many distinct guns.

By that logic, it's correct to call any and all AKs an "AK-47", since it was the original. Straight up if you start with that "it's an AKM!" bullshit I will call you a faggot because you are so wrong dude and I'm a genius.

"platform" is a term used by mall ninja tier 1 wannabe operators trying to sound unique

>aim the gun
>shoulder the weapons platform

You still haven't answered the question, what are you supposed to call it if not a "platform"? Do you say "food" instead of "hamburger", since hamburger would be too specific and make you sound like some kind of fag that likes to cook?

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then I recommend Jow Forumsguns and Jow Forumsweekendgunnit for you

> I like 1911s
>I like the 1911 platform
One makes you look like a faggot, one doesn't

so you also like these?

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Tactifags who think every gun I own should be for tactical situations.

I like leverguns you niggerfaggots, let me own fun guns.

Yes?

Well then you like the 1911 platform, not just 1911s.

No I like 1911s. A double 1911 or whatever that is is still a 1911

Are you fucking kidding me? Early gen SCARs had issues with their stock hinges cracking because it's fucking plastic.
Pretty sure this was smoothed out, but don't pretend like it never happened.

The guys produce the RN-50, a slightly-above one thousand dollars 50 BMG single-shot rifle - with a screw-on end you must take 10 seconds to take off, load, then 10 seconds to screw back on. A fun range piece, would't hunt skinwalkers with it except if they are crippled from their last encounter with a Jow Forumsommando.

user why do you feel the need to hate something because you autistically can't handle a term used as a descriptor...

I don't hate it. I'm not even the guy who posted about it first. But I'm telling you that using the word platform to describe a gun makes you look like a tool

But it is a platform. You have the rifle itself and a plethora of options and add-ons and accessories.
I dont use the term but hating on it just makes you look like the tool actually.

with $4,500 I could've built 10 1911s.

Didn't. Literally the aforementioned latch issues.

just because you were in the military it doesn't mean you know shit about guns and how to shoot. I knew plenty of dudes when i was enlisted that were shitty shots and believe in muh stopping power.

>delayed, never found in local shops
And the complementary grapes they include are all so very sour I take it?

>calling a spade a spade makes you look like a faggot
you are a massive faggot