>never carry a gun with a manual safety. You’ll forget to disengage it!
Gun Lore
Oliver Jackson
Daniel Mitchell
>Never carry glock, you'll shoot yourself in the foot.
Eli Young
>Appendix Carry? You’ll shoot your Johnson!
Liam Hill
>VP9 is too heavy. Glock wins!
Landon Taylor
>anyone with a knife within 21 feet of you will reach you before you can draw and fire
>this video where the guy has to turn 180 degrees to face his attacker then draw from an ankle holster, disengage the safety, insert the magazine, and chamber a round proves it
Michael Rivera
>this video with a defective aftermarket meme trigger proves I’m right!
Anthony Thompson
Pretty sure it's about whether or not you're going to get stabbed or not. Sure you can shoot him in that time, but unless you hit his CNS he's very likely to make it to you and give you some extra holes. Especially if it's some PCP-fiend.
Xavier Hernandez
>Concealed carry is dangerous, you're more likely to harm innocent people than get the robber!
Jeremiah King
Actually, this guy later admitted to fucking with the trigger so much that it would discharge in holster. I believe he removed the trigger safety IIRC.
Zachary Thomas
>M U D T E S T
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Elijah Johnson
right, doesn't mean you can't shoot him/ technically win still, but you're gonna have a bad time
Juan Lee
>You are 99 times more likely to have a robber or home invader ninja krav maga your gun from you and shoot you with it than you are to shoot them
Eli Morgan
>mechanical defects should not be taken into consideration, stock guns never fail
>it's ok to break the second rule of gun safety for extended periods of time and on a daily basis
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Wyatt Barnes
>one is none, two is one
>carry four extra mags, no one ever wished for less ammo in a gunfight
>yeah, but glocks don’t jam! Haven’t you seen the torture tests?
>DOUBLE ACTION SINGLE ACTION TRANSITION
>30 ounces? Might as well carry a boat anchor
>guns are only tools!
>but hickok45 sais ....
Andrew Morales
>guns from respected manufacturers that haven’t been bubba’d go off randomly in a holster
Tyler Richardson
drop mag, visually and physically check chamber
>YOU STILL NEED TO TREAT IT LIKE ITS LOADED!
Brody Thompson
Yes, so on that one time you mistake the condition of your rifle you don't discharge it on accident.
Anthony Evans
>the only point of a pistol is to get you to a rifle
Elijah Hill
Into anything valuable*
Xavier Cox
cant tell if you’re blind or just mentally fucking retarded. How do you mistake the condition of a rifle if you drop mag and check the chamber?
Kevin Brooks
This is more mil lore
>spray shit ton of clp into action BEFORE shooting because the m16/m4 wont shoot dry
Lincoln Lopez
>still thinks stock guns cannot possibly be defective
It's your dick my man.
Nathaniel Howard
You generally don't, but it can happen. Regardless, you still treat the gun the same so you never make that mistake of firing it at something you didn't mean to. How many people do you think have been shot by guns that were thought to be unloaded?
Asher Cooper
>it’s a magazine not a clip!
Tyler Evans
>AR is better than AK
Blake Powell
>ar isnt better than ak
oh u
Jose Reyes
The way a glock is built, the only way it's shooting is with a trigger pull due to the trigger mounted safety, you'd have to forget a bunch of parts to have the gun go off by itself. And if that were the case, it'd go off the moment you racked it. Why would it sit comfortably on you until it decided to go off on your junk?
Also, if it bothers you so much, do a function check. Everyone should always test their firearm before they decide to carry it.
But if all this logic isn't enough. There has never been a case of a gun discharging by itself without being touched. It's ALWAYS something that touched the trigger that set it off.
Don't have an extremely light trigger so when your finger brushes it accidentally it won't go off. Problem solved.
Nolan White
>It's ALWAYS something that touched the trigger that set it off.
Oh you done fucked up. Siggs, and taurus will give off if you slam em hardenoigh on certain models.
Parker Miller
I know a guy who did this. Shot his nut off. Still managed to have a kid.
Owen Torres
>casting your own 12ga slugs is illegal
Zachary Fisher
>SIG makes quality guns, even the military chose the p320!
Samuel Ortiz
> faggots who think carrying a pistol makes them magically immune to other forms of violence
Asher Cruz
The one is none meme is such bullshit. Try telling any serious hiker that you want to carry two of everything because you're afraid you're such an idiot that you'll die without two knives.
Christian Jenkins
But this is correct you dumb faggot. You know how many people have been shot with "unloaded" guns because they were 100% sure the gun was empty? Too many.
Grayson Ortiz
>Never carry the AR by its carry handle, it'll make the sights get out of whack!
Logan Cox
fuck off furry
Adrian Perry
Hunter Wright
The rule is less about absolute distance and more about being aware of how close people are to you and how quickly you can react to them. But I get you, there's plenty of people who think an imaginary measuring stick determines life and death in a knife/gun fight.
Carter Hernandez
This is true though you ridiculous fucking fudd, buy a DA/SA if you're that paranoid about blowing a hole in yourself.
Henry Brown
>sig
>Taurus
>reputable gun manufacturers
Kek
Ethan Collins
I want to fuck the goat.
James Bell
>pull gun
>just starting shaking it at Tyrone
>get buttfucked
Oops forgot to pull the trigger
Joshua Brooks
Implying you can't do what instructor zero does...
Implying someone will run at you with a knife instead of hiding it and stabbing you only after exposing it at point blank range.
Michael Butler
HAHAHAHAHA oh fuck i love the “le military service meme”. so many fucking normies think military service=quality its sickening
Hunter Nelson
This. MFW my slide release on the p938 randomly fell out while clearing the chamber last night.
Liam Stewart
Can confirm even budget build AR15s are usually best quality than those fucking M4s we have.
Grayson Turner
Shotgun with slugs is as accurate as a rifle
Landon Scott
>Twinkie test
Gabriel Hall
I love my AK and it's more fun to shoot.
But...
>ar more accurate
>ar lighter
>ar more modularity
>nowadays just as reliable
So how's the AK better?
Benjamin Turner
This, own/love both, but the AR is objectively better except for lack of wood furniture
Joshua Williams
>changing the goal posts this much
The firearm in question is a glock, and we were talking about firearms going off in their holsters WHILE being carried.
Fucking brainlet
Grayson Gutierrez
>ar more accurate
Depends on the AK and AR as well as the ammo, naturally. Sako RK 95s for example shoot sub-MOA, while American military M4s can be >4 MOA abominations.
>nowadays just as reliable
Depends on your conditions. -40 Nordic innawoods? Rather got with an AK based rifle.
Aaron Wood
> Sako RK 95s for example shoot sub-MOA
Link?
Jose Turner
>the AK is better in several atypical situations
Ah, got it
Jason Powell
>atypical
It's not atypical for the places it was designed for.
Logan Baker
youtube.com
Well, ya gotta move.
Blake Brooks
Afraid it's anecdotal from an FDF gunsmith and my platoonmate taking part in marksmanship competitions in the FDF. There are no official statistics on the rifle's accuracy, as far as I know and I've never managed to find any.
The 1-MOA and under is basically rifles either new or kept in pristine condition. The basic grunts beaten-to-shit shooter is likely to be more around 1.5 MOA, or slightly above. Do not that the FDF fires Lapua match grade ammunition as well.
James Allen
I've been waiting a bit over two years for that claim to be backed up, so buckle in
Charles Garcia
I had a ND because i was 10000000000% sure my shotgun was unloaded. No one ever died being too careful.
Bentley Jenkins
If I ever get myself a good quality M92S I might just try it out and and write a report on it. Until then you'll just have believable anecdotes.
It's not like sub-moa is anything that special, considering quality ammunition and the weapon designed for individual marksmanship.
Jaxon Scott
speaking of gun lore
>AKs are less accurate than ARs
Gabriel Ward
I mean, mechanically, they are...do you have trouble understanding lock-up and in-line recoil systems?
Nolan Gray
This is true. Gun safety is about reinforcing good habits.
Jeremiah Walker
That's true. Rifles are much more powerful than pistols. The only time you would use a pistol is when a rifle is not convenient.
Brody Russell
That's true. How hard is it to call something by the proper term?
Justin Johnson
This is true, though, outside of CC.
Eli Brooks
Does any little specific like safety or draw really matter in that sccenario then?
William Phillips
When you get below that distance, yeah. Imagine if someone rounds a corner right in front of you with a blade, at that point every fraction of a second counts.
Mason Parker
>these five calibers, two of which are memes are the only ones you'll ever need!
Luis Brooks
>Never carry a condom in your wallet
>the heat and pressure will damage it
>making it unable to protect you from stds and pregnency
Logan Richardson
>Never point your muzzle at anything you don't want to destroy
>Pointing it at your dick is fine tho just don't pull the trigger lol
Cooper Stewart
Lmao you retard
Aaron Taylor
You get distracted and think you did. I got handed a pistol with a round in the chamber by some dumb bitch when I took my guard shift. She said she'd cleared it before bringing it in the shack. She didn't.
Jacob Butler
Here's one I fucking hate
>Only a shit to the CNS will ever incapacitate an attacker
As if livers aren't huge fucking targets
Daniel Johnson
Did you read my post at all? Or the one I replied to?
>Sure you can shoot him in that time, but unless you hit his CNS he's very likely to make it to you and give you some extra holes.
We're talking about the 21 foot rule and specifically being rushed from under that distance. Shooting someone in the liver is not going to make him drop right then and there, simple as that. Djibouti shooty exists for a reason.
Bentley Wilson
>The M1 Garand ping got GIs killed cuz the japs/krauts heard it!
Liam Rogers
You don't know About what being liver shot does then
John Barnes
Does it drop a person before he manages to land his step?
Christian Cooper
7.62x39 has horrendous wind deflection, making it inherently more inaccurate
Henry Jones
They 100% fucking are. This isn't subjective, it's an objective mechanical fact.
Just because there are idiots on the other end of the spectrum who think AKs are inaccurate junk. It doesn't mean that the opposite is right either.
Lincoln Russell
Not him, but you don't seem to understand what adrenaline is. And liver, lung, heart, etc shots are not instant incapacitating shots.
CNS is the only way for a quick drop
Alexander Green
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Jace Murphy
>aftermarket trigger on a glock
Newfag detected. Next.
Chase Lewis
>atypical it can get 40 below in many places in the US
Eli Turner
I'll let Dr Normies Reddit explain this one
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And an example
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Note the way he instantly crumples. The head is a very difficult target to hit on someone running at you and you might not incapacitate instantly either without damage areas such as brain stem or motor cortex. Its intirely possible youll hit the face and miss the brain for a reason. There's a reason that the Mozambique you mentions starts with two body shots and not three headshots
James Howard
>has AR15 in closet and can hear a wild pack of 3-4 basketball Americans downstairs breaking in
>opts for the pistol
How to spot a true brainlet
Grayson Howard
>>Note the way he instantly crumples. The head is a very difficult target to hit on someone running at you and you might not incapacitate instantly either without damage areas such as brain stem or motor cortex. Its intirely possible youll hit the face and miss the brain for a reason. There's a reason that the Mozambique you mentions starts with two body shots and not three headshots
Please stop strawmanning as if I had told people to aim for the head.
Benjamin Martin
this is bait
Blake Richardson
youtube.com
There is nothing inherently inaccurate about an AK.
>muh loose tolerances
The difference between an ak and an ar is the sacrifices you make to save weight.
Carson Sullivan
Kek'd at all the runescape shit
Kevin Walker
>-40 Nordic innawoods? Rather got with an AK based rifle.
leaf with overgassed Mk18, disagree.
Henry Mitchell
ignore timestamp
Mason Robinson
You aren't wrong but at the same time I'd argue most actual owners of ARs/AKs are going to be fellow burgers who own these guns as range toys, so in this case most people are going to have DPMS/PSA/JUSTASGOOD brand ars and WASRS or some Centuryshit AK. Beyond that most people have access to HPBT/OTM properly matched weight bullets to twist of barrel bullets for .223/5.56 rifles at Cabelas/Academy whereas match grade AK ammo is relatively rare and often prohibitively expensive when compared round for round. To reiterate, I am talking about civilian owned firearms here in the states, not military weapons.
Ethan Cook
Ok. Good luck getting a clean shit through the spine from the front then
Levi Diaz
Habits, you check, but sometimes you’re not really checking because you’re just going through the motions and/or you get distracted
Safe handling never hurt anyone
Nolan Kelly
Heh, jokes on you kid, can't get complacent if you never handle your weapons like me
Jordan Perry
Also to add some actual content:
>Note the way he instantly crumples.
The psychological/neurological effect of being shot, not going to happen with adrenaline. Many people will fall down even on injuries that have no reason to cause them to drop. That guy who got shot included. He isn't even visibly bleeding and seems to have been shot in the left hand or arm.
Ever hunted? Animals just bolt the fuck out of situations with absolutely lethal injuries. Humans can do the very same, with there being cases of individuals with perforated hearts running up to a block before falling unconscious.
I never told anyone to aim for the CNS, you cock-gobbler. I pointed out the fact that only CNS hits reliably drop an attacker instantly and unless you're outside of the 21-foot distance, you're unlikely to reliably be able to draw, aim and shoot enough rounds to stop the person from stabbing you.
Luis Cruz
So what do you do if the AR freezes shut? Can you mortar it open? Have you ever actually lived innawoods with the rifle at those temperatures?
Christopher Edwards
To be fair flipping a safety off is no different from practicing any other gun mechanic, like drawing without your finger on the trigger