Why were these countries so hard to beat.. compare them to our enemies now eg. ISIS IRAQ etc.
Why were these countries so hard to beat.. compare them to our enemies now eg. ISIS IRAQ etc
Remove korea. It was the PVA that gave us trouble.
Korean is most QT
>China constantly gets destroyed thorough history when infighting
>Japan got nuked twice
>Vietnam war the U.S. forced the north into a treaty after only doing defence for the south
>Korean BTFO in Korean war
Hmmm
> *when not infighting
Which one is the earliest to beat? Vs hardest??
Because Japan was a real country with a real military and the US was changing gears
Because Korea had Chinese support, ands theres a whole fuckload of Chinese people
Vietnam because they had a standing army, an insurgency, Russians "advising", and no one wanted to be there
>wars in which the US did not achieve its original strategic objective
>Vietnam
>Korea
Burger BTFO.
>Why were these countries so hard to beat
You only beat Japan.
>Vietnam war the U.S. forced the north into a treaty after only doing defence for the south
haha nice try
A lack of commitment to genocide. When we took the brakes off atomic weapons we had a treaty in a week.
Well we havent lost
90-105 IQ vs 60-80 IQ
Seems kinda pudge, but hey, nothing wrong with that. I prefer the Japanese one myself.
Extreme collectivism, Vs. A bunch of back stabbing sand people who would sell their grandma to you in exchange for 2 rugs and a camel.
PLA delivered, some asskicking, too. The entire peninsula would have been the Republic of Korea if it wasn't for them.
What about these guys?
Life there is cheap and they don't care about the numbers game as long as they have a constant supply of cannon fodder to throw at the enemy
No clear asskicking overall even if they ended up victors in the end. Just had staying and willpower enough to wait out while the US got tired.
But why are they better than say the Taliban or Saddams army or Isis??
Basicly the Middle East Arabs vs The East Asians
Better tactics and training than the middle eastern armies
Because unlike the sand people, Asians are actually pretty good at war.
I mean with China being annoying about airspace and such in the north, the U.S. didn't do offensives because the South Army was supposed to
>Koreans didn't even fight themselves, their Chinese overlords did for them
Already got a Jap wife, but I'd bang all 4 of them.
Which one would you take into battle? Excluding jap
They had a cohesive identity that reached from the top down. Muslims have absolutely none of that and will abandon their own family in a war zone if things get difficult.
The real enemy
>American Civil War most costliest war fought in US history
For Vietnam specifically, I think they were so hard to beat because their cause had a lot of support, in the North and also in the South, it made it difficult for the US to kill all of it off, especially so when they were fighting guerrillas. If you also want to look more broadly on it, the public didn't want the war nor see it's value, something I would say is generally different when it comes to ISIS.
But I think the biggest difference between ISIS and North Vietnam is that North Vietnam had many, many supporters, and a trained armed forces that knew how to properly use their training and knowledge of their surroundings to their advantage. ISIS was using not only far fewer soldiers but less well trained ones in some cases, in countries full of people that hated them and wanted them gone. But I think overall a large difference between these two lay in the numbers of combatants, ISIS simply doesn't have enough to win.
He's right though... had to hire australians to do most of the work.
They all look so damn soulless
The only thing isis jas going for them is that they dont really have to "win" per se. They just have to survive and cause enough of a ruckus to be a thorn in our side
Also to note is that Vietnam was a war of nationalists against imperialists. They would either win the war or die trying instead of surrendering and infesting the western world like most mudslimes.
turns out populations of high iq yellow people are better at war than low iq brown people
If the USSR did not exist the vc would've been crushed. The war was won by the commies, but not through direct military conflict.
Wasnt the real threat the NVA rather than VC??
The Japanese got beaten in 4 years. Korea and China got stalemated in 3 years and were forced into an agreement. The hot part of the Vietnam war laster 7 years.
Afghanistan is absolutely not pacified after 17 years of conflict.
The ARVN couldn't beat the North with their own billions of dollars worth of American aid before, during and after direct American intervention. Face it, the US chose the wrong fight.
>forced the north
Is this what Americans think happened?
This. Vietnam was a complete waste. We should have backed the south with $$ and equipment to slow the fall then backed the NVA against China.
Start selling them parts for all the used US equipment they inherited from the south.
South Asians like Russians seem to need a stern hand to smack them around. They can’t thrive with to much freedom.
>compare them to our enemies now eg. ISIS IRAQ etc.
Are you gonna ignore that you niggers have been in Afghanistan for 17 fucking years now? If it’s so easy, when are you gonna pull out?
Whenever till they get an army. Until then we will continue fucking them, coz its a walk in the park for us.
If the Japaneese, Vietnameese and Korean smells like the chineese i have met at Uni, i would not choose any.
no he's just stupid
>Vietnamese
Fighting insurgencies is hard. It's even harder when allies surround and flood them with gear.
>Chinese
"Fuck Chinese! Fuck, Chinese!" -Douglas MacArthur
>Japanese
Die for the Emperor or die trying.
>Korean
Sucker punching the 38th.
You mean the UN forces were stalemated in 3 years.
Kill the Japanese, torture the Japanese,brutalize the Japanese and mutilate the Japanese so the Japanese can never fight back again nor cause destruction of the United States ever again. Death to japan will come and i hope to be there to see it happen for their hideous warcrimes such as the bataan march, nanking massacre, pearl harbor attack and the unit 731 and the fact they never apologized nor tried to fix what they have done is enough reason for the calling of the kill on all Japanese for they must be enslaved and tortured and worked to death and be exposed to experimental chemicals to insure they learn their lessons for they have not learned a single thing! The man that demanded the United States not to drop the atom bomb on tokyo because it is a city of shrines should have been treason as a jap lover and be hanged and the third nuke should have been dropped on Tokyo to insure full destruction of their culture and the possible death of the disgusting warlord hiro himself for that bastard should have been hanged and their shrines bulldozed over and fuck Tojo he should have been executed along with any relatives they had just like how the the Tsar family was gunned down by the revolutionary people and Lenin himself! Death to Japan! DEATH TO ALL JAPAN!
105 IQ vs 95 IQ
Cantonese are the best, prove me wrong
I mean, Japan put up a good fight but the rest we pretty much steamrolled.
Our original strategic objective in Korea was achieved, the secondary objectives and the objectives developed after we pushed them to the 38th parallel are the ones that we failed at, mostly because China provided NK as much support as they could. In order for them to maintain this, they had to sustain eye wateringly high casualties, regardless, we BTFO them off of their original position. U.S Statistical Victory, U.S Objective Victory, or Objective Stalemate if you count restoring the original border lines as anything but a victory. We kicked ass in Vietnam until we pulled out and literally left and tried to let them fend for themselves.
This meme needs to die.
yeah sure, a few thousand aussies did most of the work
The NVA was the more dangerous of the two, certainly. But the fact that the VC was so strong, for so long, should have indicated to the US leadership that it wasn't a problem we could kill our way out of. The South Vietnamese government was way too corrupt and we had no one we could install that could un-fuck it. Shit, we allowed the president to be assassinated during the war (the CIA knew it was going to happen) because we thought literally anyone else who took power would be better.
Generally the VC got BTFO in any main-force engagement, but the NVA occasionally got close to encircling US groups before we just lolololol jk/d out in UH-1s.
I have no idea. It might be because their countries weren't arbitrarily cut up into pieces resulting in a very split population. The middle east WAS segregated by religion but then when it was cut into pieces to form nation states, those religions were put into groups they didn't like or want to associate with.
This results in a very piss poor national identity. People in the middle east don't identify with their country but of their people. So they make a really shitty fighting force.
Asians have a national identity. Chinese are Chinese (though, they use to be extremely splintered as well which is why they were ass backwards for a long ass time.), Nippon will Nip, and Koreans Koreanate.
Wars of attrition, guerrilla warfare where your enemy can send many millions of their own into a never ending meat grinder. They have just enough weapons and just good enough technology to put up some sort of fight, and they have many times the manpower. Quality VS Quantity. They have limitless morale and we had very limited morale, every casualty was many times more effective at persuading the public out of the war and spreading the anti-war message.
Not to mention, soldiers are fighting this war that do not want to be there, do not understand why they are there. There is a strong peace movement. The Vietnam war produced just enough casualties to make the draft a bad idea and to reflect badly on the hawk's, etc. The anti-war movement was very good at oversimplifying every last bit of the conflict and took advantage of the emotional state of U.S families at the time. The U.S wasn't in a good position to sustain any sort of casualties so when you had to announce that you lost X or Y number of soldiers it never looked good. Even if the enemy had lost 10 times as many as you. (In some cases they did)
It's not so much that the U.S military lost as much as the U.S public stopped wanting to send people into a conflict that it did not support. A political victory was won for the NVA and VC, not so much a military victory. Statistically and if you went engagement by engagement, battle by battle, the U.S comes out on top every time. We only lost when we decided to pack up and let the south defend for itself, which it obviously was incapable of doing given what we know now about what happened after we left. While we were there we pushed their shit in with soldiers who were sub-par and didn't want to be there in the first place. Neck yourself if you think any of this constitutes a crushing defeat.
Uh okay? How is this relevant to anything I said.
Just adding to the discussion.
Do all americans think like this?
No, lol. He's in the stark minority.
>korea was forced into an agreement
Is this what they teach in American schools
Until she opens her mouth. In fact, when any of them speak.
Tonal languages sound like such shit, and hangol is the worst.
Japanese gets a soft pass mostly because their language doesn't make me want to blind myself.
>our strategic objective were achieved.
communism still exist sissy boy.you didn't win shit.
>communism still exists
How many capitalist countries exist VS communist countries? Riddle me that, bud.
Lol no
COPE
>though, they use to be extremely splintered as well which is why they were ass backwards for a long ass time
You couldn’t be more wrong
Looks like 3/3 (not counting Cuba. Lol bay of pigs) are the countries you didn’t win against.
as long communism exist,victory is not absolute.
even if the last communist country was at the same time the smallest,that would not be enough.
Militarily, yes? Do you even know anything about the Korean war?
Cope with what? North Korea attacked South Korea, South Korea got smashed into the teeny tiniest bit of South Korea by the North Koreans, and then when the U.S got there we manhandled the norks all the way to the 38th parallel until 2 million screaming chinamen sacrificed themselves to create a stalemate.
>most countries follow a free market model
>most countries have at least been pushed to socialist
>vast majority of countries are playing the great game of monopoly that is capitalism
>american influence is everywhere
>american culture permeates the planet
By the way, 10 american cents have been donated to your paypal account. That's AMERICAN cents so you'll be able to buy a luxury item today in Beijing.
Vietnam has been practicing guerilla warfare for centuries, they were iirc the only nation to successfully repel the Mongol horde and they did it not once, not twice, but three times and finally just started paying tribute.
dumb frogposter
Does this image anger you, chang?
>communism as a economic system
>not the disgusting brainwashing
the absolute state of american education,poisoned by pinkos.
>Linebacker II
he's not wrong
Communism is an economic system. Stay angry, chang.
look at the light pink
communists eternally btfo
Asians with accents make we want to vomit
Americanized Asians with no accent make me diamonds though. Especially if they’re bad and have tattoos or piercings or other degenerate shit
They have great plastic surgeons, I'll give em that much. But I guess it's not hard when the average person is a pretty blank slate in Asia
It’s funny because their faces are flat
>we manhandled the norks all the way to the 38th parallel until 2 million screaming chinamen sacrificed themselves to create a stalemate.
That’s not exactly how it happened.
Even for American public education you sound pretty dumb
Because you’re a fucking tasteless degenerate
Doubtful.
Can’t stand it on a white woman, but something about that garbage on East Asian flesh is different. Not that I give a tin cup shit about your opinion or anything.
>only beat 1/4 (Japan fucks)
haha, you want to try again big nose, but China too strong now, you too late haha!
That's pretty much what happened, you're lying to yourself if you think it went really all that different.
The US (and Worst Koreans) manhandled the Norks all the way to the Yalu, after which China came in and pushed the US all the way back to the 38th. Then followed years of stalemate.
Yes, because the Chinese were willing to sacrifice like a million or so guys in order to accomplish this. They encircled over extended U.S positions and were able to push us back to the 38th after we had pushed the norks up China's asshole. They did this with a million man if not a two million man army.
Do you know how many of them likely died while fighting us before and after the stalemate?
>Do you know how many of them likely died while fighting us before and after the stalemate?
Enough to thwart US foreign policy and ensure the presence of communism on the Korean Peninsula, but not so many that it made any real difference to the world's most populace country.
They are no where near a Jewish colony. Put some Jews near them bam war would be won
Dats why they are beautiful but deadly
The French couldn't beat the Viet Cong, the Chinese couldn't, not even the Vietnamese could beat the Vietnamese.
>It's not so much that the U.S military lost as much as the U.S public stopped wanting to send people into a conflict that it did not support.
All you need to do to win is stopping the enemy from fighting.
just the retarded ones
see
Ouch!
What about China? Didn't they supply most of the weapons and training?
Lots of PAVN soldiers joined the ranks of the VC.
Retard. The point was to contain communism, not eliminate it.
Viet Minh*