Fuck plastic

My PoLYMEr IS juSt AS GOod!


Common arguments include:

>Polymer is as good as, if not better than metal!
fuck no. Plastic is brittle by nature, and it will weaken 6 times faster than metal will ever rust.

>polymer is better than metal
Are you retarded?


>metal guns explode too!
Yes, but they lasted much longer, not nearly as many blew up, or in the location where your fingers go.

>The handle isnt a pressure bearing component!
Exactly, and thats why its scary when polyshit fails because the pressure will take the path of least resistance. (The plastic)

>X person/people bought it, so it's the best!
People are still buying useless shit they see on tv from infomercials on impulse, as well as sig compacts despite their growing reports of exploding.

>the military and police use them!
Because theyre cheaper than everything else. Lowest bidder wins. Not Only that, but factories now spend 10x less creating them, and they get Consumers to pay the same ammount that a metal one would have cost from consumers who bought into the spaceage construction meme. (And it doesnt even offer any benefit above metal.)

>Its innovation!
Its meme tier shit that someone made just because they could and it holds no real advantage above its metallic counterpart, except for the manufacturer creating it at a fraction of cost and jewing the consumer for more money.

>its more lightweight!
If youre too much of a weak pussy to carry around a couple extra ounces,myou shouldnt even own a gun.

>HUR HUR YUR A FUDD WHO CANT ACCEPT CHANGE
I Cant accept retarded logic soley based off of opinion, novelty gimmicks, and "muh space gun" brainlet argument.

I fuckin hate polymer, and the idiots who think its the best thing ever created. Your gay ass glock would be infinitely better if its construction was metal.

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This. This. This. Finally, someone else who sees the truth. Plastic is a cheap substitute for real materials.

Sick blogpost.
>upper is warped, dustcover bent, bolt fuckin ruined, round grenaded because it probably wasnt in battery
>i-it was the lowers fault!
K. Also who the fuck makes lowers out of polymer? No one cares and this is terrible bait.

oh look, this thread again

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It must suck to feel so strongly about something that your own blind bias prevents you from enjoying everything your hobby has to offer. I mean, I hate .40 S&W and most Sig products but I still try to enjoy and appreciate what I can about them when I get the chance.

I built an AR for a customer the other day. I told them not to use the poly lower and explained why they are shit. He insisted I use it because his wife wouldn't let him buy a decent one. I test fired it and on the fourth fucking round the threads holding the buffer tube split and the whole stock and buffer assembly fell off. He ended up going to the store and buying an aluminum receiver. I could barely suppress my smug, told-you-so face.

It's false economy buying that shit. You can get an aluminum receiver for like 20 more bucks.

OP didn't get BTFO enough from last time he made this shit thread and now he craves more dicking

L-lleave .40 alone!

>it was the lowers fault

Alright. So youre telling me a metal one would have exploded like that too?

Youre an idiot.

New and improved.

Is this specifically about polymer ARs or all polymer guns?

From the source and looking at pic related of the round that was fired; no, a metal lower would have probably taken a few fingers off.

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I mean, yea, but if im going to buy a new gun, im going to make sure its a good one that may and/or may not become a liability.

Im not going to spend 500$ on just a whim

>polymer is shit and it doesnt hold any advantages above metal whatsoever

>last thread filled with tards screeching their polyshit is more heavily engineered, and its failure points somehow make it better than steel

Right. You totally won, with all of your non existant reasonings.

It depends OP. Had my 2nd Gen Glock 17 for over 20 years. Never a problem. I'm scared to get an AR with a polymer lower though. I don't buy the first gen of any new tech. I'll let others test it for me.

Ah yes, Aluminum one of the most dense metals known to mankind. If it was Aluminum that AR lower would have surely stayed together. This is also why I'm sure you stuff flattened soda cans in your plate carrier, nothing is as strong as metal! Not that sissy ceramic stuff that your sister's tea set is made out of!

Not that user but again, the rifle in your OP didn't fail because it was polymer. It failed from a barrel obstruction or superhot load judging by pic related.
>its failurepoints somehow make it better than steel, muh engineering
Do you seriously not understand that it's better to have something fail in the safest way?...

You're seriously going to look at pic related and say it was because of the lower.

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The guy whos polymer ar exploded somehow didnt lose any fingers, how the fuck is a metal one even less safe? Backwards fuckass logic right here.

OP is a faggot.

First, guns that are designed to be made from/use polymer are okay. The Glock is fine, the CZ is fine, the M&P is fine.
OP's pic is of an AR 15. A weapon that was never intended to be made from anything but metal. In fact, there are a few parts that are made from plastic because they are inconsequential to the AR.
OPs argument is bullshit.
So OP hates polymer. Good, now go neck yourself.

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I mean, 20 years is ok I guess.

I doubt there will ever be any polymer guns that go past 100 years. Let alone 50

And yea dude fuck polymer rifles.

>The guy whos polymer ar exploded somehow didnt lose any fingers, how the fuck is a metal one even less safe?
I mean I get that this is bait but look at where you said it was 'overly engineered with failure points. Do you understand what a failure point is.

For the last time. The rifle didn't kaboom because of the lower.

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Ok stupid fuck ill spell it out for you since you still dont get it.

The polymer didnt MAKE the failure. DUH

THE AMMO Exploded causing the failure. No fucking shit

The lower (where your fucking hand goes) exploded because of the pressure blowong out through the bottom. Read the fucking OP POST YOU IDIOT. the polymer isnt a pressure bearing component. Even taking a chance playing woth guns and inferior materials that can fail around important appendages is fucking stupid.

Just like you and your argument.

You.

Read this dumbass.

Anyways, you still have no valid reasoning why polymer is any better than metal. Its inferior garbage.

Yea, failure points are built in to protect you blah blah blah. Who the fuck cares.

So you'd rather have metal shrapnel being throw at you than a plastic lower that just breaks without building force?
>the polymer isnt even a pressure bearing component
Yet you made a thread about it.

So you'd rather have a piece of metal explode in your face than a piece of plastic that will give before pressure builds up and could cause a much bigger problem?

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>who cares
The guy who didn't loose any fingers or his vision probably cares.
>reee read the post despite basing the entire thread around it and using the picture when I knew it wasn't the lowers fault
Look I'll be honest. Not only did I not read any of your talking points or capital letter, screaming-like-a-baby posts... but I don't even own any polymer firearms.
There's nothing wrong with them and you're flailing your balled up fists like a child throwing a tantrum because someone else got to play with their yoyo in your vision.
I get it. Your yoyo is cooler and you just want us to watch you play with it.

I haven’t had any issues with my rifle

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VP70s are almost 50 years old now and still kickin'. Glocks are almost 40.

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It is lighter.

I stopped reading your shit post halfway through too.

You obviously dont get what this threads about because youre too retarded so ill stop wasting energy. Bye faggot

>I stopped reading
Obviously not. Nice rebuttal though.
Everything you've said is opinion based and judging by the responses so far you've already had this thread and got worked over pretty well.
Enjoy your night, also you don't have to keep double spacing your half sentences.

>vp70

Never even heard of it.

k

do you have internet access to maybe google it?
damn you got btfo OP lmao

Yep, still never heard of it. I bet I can guess why it was never popular.

Yep btfod by a faggot that doesnt know what this threads about.

This guy does.

Go figure. Someome that works with guns and actually knows about guns knows that polymer is shit.

Noguns retard detected

Yep totally worth arguing with an idiot who doesnt understand the thread.

Ops right, fuck you and fuck the other faggot

polymer belongs in furniture and pistol frames nothing else

No arguments against this?

>In service since 1977
>adopted by dozens of countries
>reliable and accurate
>almost all polymer, even 99% of the trigger assembly

I’m not saying all metal is shit, because it isn’t, but polymer guns can objectively be of high quality

Kek, ceramic fags btfo.

>polymer trigger assembly

This is the most fucking retarded thing ive ever heard.

>"lets make very small and extremely i,portant parts out of plastic that can easily break, fracture, and deform im adverse weather conditions"

Im in utter disbelief. Thats so fucking stupid.

This thread was probably started because OP is simply a handgun aesthetics fag.

That being said, the slim possibility of a polymer frame failing and even slimmer possibility of your hand getting fucked up in the process isn't worth carrying a heavier gun that does exactly the same job. I follow a lot of shooting instructors online and have met a couple of the well known ones in real life through training. I've never heard one of them tell a story of a catastrophic failure of a polymer frame, let alone one leading to injury. That's reason enough for me not to be concerned with it if they're not, considering the hundreds of thousands of rounds they've each seen go downrange.

Having a lighter gun strapped to you is better than having a heavier gun with the same capabilities strapped to you in every single way

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Just because you're stupid and pigheaded doesn't mean that the reasoning hasn't been posted again and again and again and again and again. Your ignorance and room temperature IQ is not really the problem of the rest of this board.

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> ITT OP Nogunz hates polymer because he tore open his own asshole with a dildo and hasn't been able to live it down

If it's stupid and it works it ain't stupid

> Guy has fingers because polymer lower with built in safety features does its job flawlessly, saving life, limb or eyesight in catastrophic failure it did not cause
> Aluminum lower blowout would have launched shrapnel into shooter, despite being made of aluminum

> Fudd thinks this proves anything other than him being a retard

You're posts prove that you are either baiting or willfully ignorant of materials science. There has been negative stereotypes against things made out of plastic from when we first began to fully utilize plastic. This was because that the stereotypes were somewhat true: plastics weren't all that great in high stress and other common environments. Since then materials science has come a very long way and the plastics of today are highly specialized. Depending on the application or manufacturing constrains plastic is chosen many times over its metal counterparts now.
I am under no illusion that you will continue to spout bullshit that you know nothing about. I can only hope that this post causes someone to look into it themselves and see the truth.

> On things that totally never happened: the post: the reckoning: 2: electric boogaloo: kazoo

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How the fuck has nobody checked these digits?

you know damn well there is more to it than you are dicking around at.

Also if you properly cryoforge the aluminum (heat than supercold quench) its strong as fuck.

The only good polymer is a glass filled nylon.

My Glock is a 3 digit # I bought it used in 1993?
It's now 25 years old

Weak ass pussy cant handle a heavy 9mm

Pathetic

And?

You have to be 18 to post here. Go to english class cleetus

Ok so fucking what? Polymer has co,e a long way, but that by no fucking means that its better than metal. Its still shit, and it will still break on you more readily.

You're like, an attention deprived retard or something.

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just a regular ass retard.

So like, did the A-team quit or something? Are you guys the reserves? You suck at your jobs.

Yes. It would also grenade. Are You stupid?

No one's posting in your thread because it's bad and you're retarded... It also almost got bumped off the board by the time gap between posts.
Just go away.

It really depends on the material properties to know, where it will break, will it fail in shear, compression, or tension...etc. if polymer is as the name implies, a long chain connected ever so often, compared to a metal that isn't as rigid (allowing for movement compared to something rigid like a solid polymer or a salt for instance)...for now it'd be better to use metal compared to polymer, unless its material properties exceed that of metal.

>go neck yourself

Out early for summer little guy?

Are you excited for the 7th grade next year?

>summer this, summer that
>l2english someone speaking perfectly fine english
>wont stop reeing and reddit spacing in their own thread
>gets called a retard multiple times by 28 other people
>still thinks they're making an epic bait thread and getting people angry
This is just embarrassing.

>Some one called me a child for speaking like a child

>Better over compensate like an insecure child!

>there's no reason to carry a heavier gun that does the same job. Reputable instructors aren't concerned with polymer guns failing and injuring the shooter
>but, well, you're just a pussy

Gotcha bitch. And sage

you ignorant fool, using a plastic lower made on the same dimensions and blueprints of an aluminium one will always fail. That's a limit of amerimutt design (result of amerimutt consumer wanting muh iconic shapes muh adjustable navy seal stock)

Plastic lowers need their own design to work. CAv arms made some from scratch that are lighter and at least as strong as aluminium. You just have to be an informed customer, but sometimes its asking too much there.

>all plastic is the same quality and strength

>o-only one person thinks I'm a retard
>s-samefag!
Jesus you are making me cringe so hard.

>ye MaKInMekrInGe!

Faggot

>posts pic of metal upper nuked
>Blames lower

the polyfags are scared

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this isn't a blogpost newfag

Doesnt know about the first polymer pistol?
Why are you here?
>I bet I can guess why it was never popular.
HK price point

You know being a Dunning Kruger case isn't a good thing, right?

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You faggot

Read this

Why are there so many of you fucking idiots who cant understand basic safety concepts?

>fucking idiots who cant understand basic safety concepts?
t. D-K case that knows exactly 0 about engineering.

put your iron on the lowest setting and iron that flag

Come over and make me, faggot

Eh, glocks are okay if you get them in regular calibers... I think it depends what polymer you use, where you put the metal reinforcements, and whether it's a stress bearing part. But I get you. Polymer lowers are shit, drinking is fun, it's entirely too early to drink though, so I'll just lie around all day.

I mean I would because I understand that the likelihood of the polymer cracking for literally no reason is much higher than the likelihood of an aluminum receiver gun exploding due to overpressure. Also you can't have a polymer upper, even though TECHNICALLY, the upper still isn't even a stress bearing component, due to the fact that the bolt is locked into the barrel extension, hence the reason even THAT can be made of aluminum and not steel.

all pressure and stress bearing components are made of steel and aluminum, metal reinforcements are present in many places among the plastic and in actuality most of the working parts are metal of some sort or another, such as the trigger and safety. Really only the trigger group is made of polymer on the aug. Not that it isn't great, but even the aug doesn't put stress on polymer.

This is the correct answer

I think polymer is only and issue when retards overload their rounds beyond the stress that the plastic can take. These same people also overload ammo and blow up metal guns too. Perhaps people should stop being retarded and research how to properly load ammo before blaming the materials.

But user! How else am I supposed to shoot my patented "Whirlwind +++++++++++++++++++P+" loads?

Dynamite is already patented.

>pretends to be expert on polymer in firearms
>never even heard of VP70
you're trash