What would be our best military strategy? The best option I can think of is maritime, seeing as our air force and army are absolutely useless. The only decent future purchase we have is the F35s and that's not gonna stop China or Indonesia steamrolling us
Australian military
Christopher Roberts
Nathan Parker
Stop letting Chinese into your country. Seriously. Other than that, Australian military planning is pretty good (Boxer, Growler, etc)
Michael Baker
As far as I know, we have invested in new weaponry from Reinhart. I think this included new light vechiles and tanks (don't quote me, I don't recall exactly) in an attempt to upgrade some of the old stuff. However, as term as strategy goes increasing our naval capabilities would probably be the best for us. Considering we can't get invaded across land, it should be second priority. Our army has to either fight overseas or defend the nation- of which the first defences would be our naval firepower and air superiority.
Australia is technically a hard country to stage an invasion in in the 21st century. To get ground troops here would be a lengthy process and involve a lot of island hopping, giving us time to prepare our defenses more so than usual. Our closest neighbours which pose a threat (in the event they got themselves organized) would be Indonesia as mentioned in previous White Papers. The other concern is the situation rising in the South China Sea for us. As a Western country in an Asian part of the hemisphere, Australia also finds itself in a predicament. Does it become a regional power, does it stay with its Western roots or do we move towards a more Asian centric view?
Logan Hall
We're going to have to choose between USA and China at some point. I think America likes having us as the only Western nation in Asia but at the same time China wants America to have a far lesser role in the region and doesn't like how we give America such a strong foothold (along with Japan and South Korea). Probably going to eventually try playing a diplomatic role where we convince China to "let America stay" while also getting USA to back off a bit.
Logan Adams
>Probably going to eventually try playing a diplomatic role where we convince China to "let America stay" while also getting USA to back off a bit.
God no. Please god no. I do not want 8 million Chinks stinking up this beautiful, god given country with their subhuman bullshit.
The Americans are annoying, but at least they leave us alone and only make jokes about our accents. The Chinese will breed our women, destroy our health services, and subjugate our youth the moment they don't have 5 gigatons of Democracy pointing at them.
I don't care if we become the 51st state. Anything to get the Chinese to fuck off and leave us alone.
Austin Allen
You'd better beef up that military a lot if you want to have the Americans back off. Weren't they the only reason that your entire country wasn't conquered by the Japs in WWII? IIRC, your military was extremely unprepared and the Japs were taking islands that would have allowed them to start bombing your mainland if you didn't have help.
If you start fucking with your biggest ally, China might not feel the need to play nice any more.
Carter Carter
>What would be our best military strategy?
Rapidly go nuclear, which we can if push comes to fuck off.
Indonesia isn't much of a threat and can barely keep their own population under control most of the time, let alone bothering anyone else. Seriously, they're so fucking far behind the 8 ball its not even the same game. Well it is a game, like soccer using a coconut
China, hard to say there as while they like to wave the dick around, militarily they're inexperienced and haven't managed to pull off an amphibious landing in living memory. Plus to some extent their military is an arm of the party, not the state and functions not so much as a defence force but enforcement of their rule within the domain. Thats why running over students, bashing muslim goat fuckers, bullying Tibet and making shrieking monkey noises whenever someone mentions Taiwan is their current preoccupation.
Big thing to consider, alliances exist for a reason and China has literally only one country that doesn't hate their guts 24-7: North Korea
Everyone else considers them subhuman scum and that's putting it mildly, all the other asians hate them to hilarious levels of apocalyptic manlet rage, so if they roll up on anyone down this way, there's several hundred million insanely fucking cranky asians to contend with first.
Last thing to consider is our considerable force multipliers
>All spy sat data for the eastern hemisphere is processed here
>We can see about as far north as southern china just with our own gear
>We actually have allies
If something does light up, it's having to go in raw with no lube and no surprises.
Austin Richardson
can australia even develop her own nucc? does she even have the materiel for it?
Michael Ross
you fellas still got your pillbox system along the north coast? Could work, then again, concrete isnt very drone strike/missile proof.
Gavin Cox
>he would rather have American niggers and creaturas raping his women than heroic yellow men
Implessive
Asher Reyes
have about three times as much uranium as anyone else on the planet, I'm sure someone can figure out how to enrich enough of it.
Thomas Perez
material fuck yeah, national support fuck no. Both Aus and NZ have been offered it more or less, but the hippies stuffed things up. Could have been mighty ANZUS N sheit
Matthew Gomez
very implessive
Adam Fisher
We're basically in that little category under the nuclear powers that 'can do, but don't'
Rolling them out quickly is still a possibility, but the state tends to be very anti-nuke on all sides of the fence here and delivery systems are kind of dubious since some dumbfucks decided retiring F1-11's prior to finding a like replacement was a good idea.
Its been a reactionary force up there since the 1970s, combined land, sea and air + OH Radar systems to basically jump on anything.
Having been deployed to the NT for a few years, I honestly pity any poor cunt that actually wants to land there, run around, drag all their shit with them and then have to put up with the fucking horror that is the north west, NT and northern Qld
It truly is the pits, there's literally nothing for about 2000km and a terrible place to be
Evan Perry
Most definitely.
Which makes me sad. I hope our land in the future doesn't get sold off to the Chinese. As an /out/ist I am generally concerned about the impact to our environment, as fucking chinks seem to have no self respect nor decency about protecting our fragile ecosystems here. Nor our way of life. They are rude and arrogant, and generally pretty skeevy.
Also correct. Although while many SEA states dislike China they rely on her for money as trade flows up the Mekong into China. This makes it difficult for any states to openly oppose them, and is one of the reasons Australia is starting to take more of an interest in developing Laos and other SEA states. It would be incredibly helpful to us to have stable economies and friends in the area should China start to play up.
However, there is actually dispute about China being able to sustain its growth. From what I have heard, there has been a tappering off and some Professors at my University are working on papers related to this question. Potentially China may not be a threat to us in the future.
SEA also has the highest percentage of Islamic people. Should that continue, I dare say that we might see more conflict in regards to that in the future, depending on whether terrorism remains a current trend in 21st century warfare or not.
Angel Thomas
We need to stop letting fucking chinks in.
Julian Brown
too late, this guy from Guangzhou (a city in china), is in australia nowadays
Alexander Barnes
What the fuck is this meme even, I see this posted all the time.
Nathan Campbell
ABSOLUTELY IMPRESSIVE!
Liam Russell
My favorite Chinese-Taipei desert in Auschina.
Nolan Hill
no denying there's issues with them, but a photo of chinatown, presumably sometime around lunar new year doesn't really prove anything.
Isaac Sanchez
>there's issues with them
Who said there is issues? Not me. I love it, makes me feel like HOME!
Camden Rivera
fuck off joe, shouldn't your liver have given in already?
Parker Campbell
thank u for ur service~
Chase Martinez
>Can Australia into nukes?
Oh my yes.
Landon Evans
i'm in the australian army (ares), and my parents are chinese.
desu, we're pretty good as a small army, i reckon our best strategy is just defence. australias not a strategic piece of land anyway, don't think china will prod at us with a stick anyway. especially with how aggressive america is. iirc they have 30k marines(?) stationed in darwin right now. dont think we can fight a country, but we'd be alright defending our own.
Jaxson Cox
One thing worth noting in that picture is the 'Central Equity' banner in the bottom left. Most, if not all of the Australian Chinese I've encountered are excellent people but those mainland owned construction and real estate companies are unironically ruining the city. Nothing they build is up to code and people are being put at series risk by shit like hyper flammable cladding, asbestos laced concrete and glass window panes that randomly shatter while 40 stories up and rain glass shards on the street below. They're a fucking menace and they are encouraging and supporting dodgy local construction companies doing the same shit.
As if that weren't enough, these fuckers are tearing down every historic building they can get their hands on to build their deathtraps, all of which will have to be torn down and rebuilt AT THE TAXPAYERS EXPENSE in ten years because they are so fucking dangerous.
Josiah Fisher
Yeah I got no issue with chinks being here in person, but foreign companies need to GTFO
Nathan Moore
foreign investment boosts the economy. ur a fucking retard to think that we shouldn't allow foreign companies into australia
Anthony Perry
>lmao dude IBM gives us nice jobs so let's let in seven thousand different proxies of the chinese government intent on destroying our way of life
>muh super
Adrian Garcia
The chinks are a fucking menace, I really enjoy how they have destroyed the housing market worse than the boomers ever did.
Luke Harris
I'm all for allowing foreign companies into Australia, but they need to follow our fucking laws and pay their fucking taxes first.
Charles Brown
I think you would do well to invest in truck-launched anti-ship cruise missiles and expeditionary marine forces. The SLOC down to Australia from China is long and choked with islands, so you could inflict major attrition along the way for any amphibious force.
Sea-mines also would be a good investment, and very cheap. I'm partial to the old NATO style of having each country's Navy specialize in an area of operations that suits it's national character and operational needs. IE-- USA focused on Carriers because we could afford it, and because our forward bases were likely to be overrun. UK focused on anti-sub warfare after long experience against U-boats. I think the Aussies best role (based on their performance in Malay and Vietnam) would be Marine Corps type operations, doing a counter-island fortification program like the Chinks are doing in the Spratleys. Backed up with ASCMS, mines (we can sell you good versions of those) and a nice IADS (we can't sell you this, ours fucking sucks) you'd be tough to root out and you'd inflict serious casualties.
Ultimately these weapons and tactics will be useless if you are conquered without a shot by Chinese immigration (Not a slam, same thing is happening here).
t. ex USN officer in WESTPAC.
Brayden Carter
>hurdur its the chinese who r destroying the housing market
>its not because our banks of shitty lending standards & the consistent low interest rate set by the rba
>hurdur im gonna blame the chinese as a scapegoat cause i cant think for myself
what ur saying doesnt even fucking make sense, theres no connection. kill yourself.
Adam Watson
oh my
Anthony Jenkins
>what ur saying doesnt even fucking make sense, theres no connection.
yes, all of those "chinese cultural organizations" are here to help us understand the merits of chinese culture, not to subvert every fucking company in the country.
Benjamin Gomez
Truck launched cruise missiles aren't a bad idea at all, they'd let us concentrate our anti ship weapons anywhere we need them given enough warning and its unlikely any OPFOR could could take advantage of the concentrated defenses and land over a wide area simply because of how fucking huge and remote our northern coasts are.
This same reasoning kind of puts a damper on the mine idea in my opinion however, the area we'd need to cover to secure the northern coasts is just too vast. Submarines are a much better alternative as just like the missiles they will let us concentrate out ship killing ability right where it is needed most.
Joshua Nelson
I'm not sure the rest of the world really appreciates just how lucky they are that Australians happen to be the most chilled out people in the world. We have enough green rocks to end all life on Earth several times over but almost no interest in actually mining the stuff because you cant fuel a barbie or brew beer with it.
Lucas Butler
or because ALP was too pussy to say no to the anti-nuke campaigners and loose all their votes.
David Morales
I'm looking at this from the perspective of fighting away from Australia itself as part of a joint force. In that case, mining approaches into your operational area is more feasible, since you might have a narrow frontage or only a few ship channels through an area. Then mining becomes politically contentious though.
If you are thinking about defending your island itself, I'm less certain. I've been there a few times, but I don't know the geography well enough to say for certain. I wish we would sell you all some of our old A-6s though. They are very good and just rusting out in the desert. Be a relatively effective replacement for your old F-111s. Very versatile aircraft.
Hunter Price
normally when i see obvious chinese government sponsored chinkposting i chuckle and move on, but you can take your blatant attempts to manipulate retards online and get fucked, you toe dicked piece of shit
your country will fail
Lucas Cox
If you have any questions about Australian geography ask them and I may be able to help you out, I dont live up north but I've spent enough time up there to have a good idea what the terrain and potential challenges are like.
I'm not personally sure that your old bombers will be much use, as anyone with the technical and logistical capability to actually land and supply a force in Australia is going to be advanced enough to field modern or near modern air defenses.
Ian Lewis
nah, nukes are for countries with anger management issues or hostile neighbors. We dont need 'em.
Samuel Ross
the fuck you dont. The right to bear nuclear arms cunt.
Evan Adams
You'll still need to suppress enemy air defenses, that's a given in any air campaign in the last 60 years. Otherwise, if SEAD/DEAD were not possible there would be no bomber type aircraft at all, anywhere. But for non-China conflicts your A-6s supported by SEAD/DEAD from F-35s will be fine, and greatly increase your ability to project power over large distances. A-6s can also carry a shit-ton of anti-shipping missiles and mines, which the F-35 cannot. For a war against China, you'd have US 7th Fleet and PACOM Air Forces backing you up, and it would be very helpful to us if you could make up for lacks in 5th gen capability with 4th gen capacity, if you follow me. Our sorties are going to be largely tied up with low-volume, deep penetration SEAD/DEAD so having an ally with the ability to exploit this immediately with a high-capacity, survivable bomber like the A-6 would be very handy. Plus you can use it as a buddy tanker for your F-35s, it's quite good in that role.
Is the northern coast all rainforest? I've only been to Cairns up north.
Dominic Perez
We actually put the mining on hold because we've got more ore processed/ready to be processed than we know what to do with. like a 4-8 year surplus.
Jordan Brown
The north is not all rainforest, no. As you go west from Cairns it turns into dry bushland and desert, especially once you hit the Kakadu national park. The whole region is also incredibly remote, there are no major cities and very limited infrastructure of any kind beyond the M1 and a bunch of dirt roads.
In summer the region is incredibly hot, dry and full of poisonous snakes, which presents an immediate problem as most (if not all) bodies of fresh water larger than a creek are filled with gigantic, man eating crocodiles (bless their scaly little hearts, the buggers dont even know how important they are to our national security).
abc.net.au
In winter the region is just as inhospitable but incredibly cold instead of hot, and the deadlier snakes fuck off and get replaced by spiders instead.
The whole region is so dangerous the natives literally evolved fucking superpowers in order to survive there:
abc.net.au
Jason Gomez
a good chunk of that bush is on fire for a few months of the year, Kakadu is a swamp half the year too, and Darwin has a huge military presence for it's size.
John Adams
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Hey , be advised that all the trees shit napalm as well.