Do you recommend the SIG Sauer Mosquito for noobs?

Opinions?

I already saw that the laws of my country won't fuck me over .22 rounds.

Any advice?

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>do you recommend sig
no

Get a Ruger MK IV instead.

ok, i'll look the info of it

they are shitty guns whose slides break and are ammo sensitive. buy buckmark or ruger. any 22lr pistol that replicates the look of another gun is shit examples being 1911s, p22,i ssc

>Ruger MK IV
i think what said is ok

This. Careful a lot of companies sold their name out to have their brand on items shittier places aek shittier things for them. I think GSG makes the Sig Mosquito?

Walther and Ruger are good on 22s

Well I'm probably one of a few people on here with experience. There were known to have slide failures due to poor metallurgy but you've got one that's solid, they're well built guns are surprisingly reliable. They like high velocity and things like federal automatch run great. The gun simulates a 9mm fullsize well. Don't get this gun if you want a .22 that has no recoil.

I have one, and my buddy has one. We've both has absolute reliability but only with around 500 rounds between us.

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>I already saw that the laws of my country won't fuck me over .22 rounds.
>my country won't fuck me over
Too late.

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It's Argentina, we are born fucked over.
But at least not in gun laws
yes... you have to have a license to use guns, but .22 Rounds are an exception since they are allowed for self-defence without any type of license, tho you still need to prove you've had somekind of expirience with handguns

If I were you and wanted to carry my pistol I'd get this

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A: it's not a SIG mosquito anymore. They sold it off.

B: It's potmetal garbage but it's a functional fullsizeish 22 handgun with ergos similar enough to a big boy gun to be good for practice. I own one and I don't regret it for how cheap it was.

If I could do it again I'd get a Glock conversion kit for 22 but it's still functional for the task it has.

Seconding this. Specifically get the Ruger MK IV (or an older version is fine too, if you can find the original it won't have a magazine disconnect), not the SR22 or anything like that. I don't know how Browning is, but Ruger MK triggers are great, and that's a huge part of it being enjoyable to shoot.

CCI, Aguila, Federal = good

Winchester white box (called Western or something?) is bad, worse than Remington easily if you have an autoloader.

cci is great

fine so CCI with Ruger MK IV it is... now
>CCI Stinger
>CCI Standard Velocity
>CCI Subsonic HP
wich one?

high velocity is always best for reliability

i think i'll go for Stinger beacuse of the 7$ price (more or less)

dosent matter really depends on what you want out of it. none of them will be drastically better than the other. no matter what you buy its still going to be a 22lr.

All are good. Buy Stingers if you're shooting it at anything other than paper. I just target shoot but I like them a lot. Any of them is okay. I would imagine Stingers will have the best chance of 100% reliably cycling your gun, but the Ruger MK series is really good and will probably cycle fine with Subsonic.

so, i just checked with my dad, he told me to use the >Ruger LCR

Yeah I think you guys are good with smaller stuff since they seem to draw the line at 9mm as a military cartridge in most south American countries

The other thing with the MK IV is it's piss easy to take down.

Earlier guns in the series (IE I, II, III) are great shooters as well but are real bitches to take down and reassemble, which is why I never used to recommend them as "first guns". The IV is not just easier, it's one of the easiest semi auto hand guns to disassemble and reassemble in general.

Thunderbolt work great in my 22/45 too. Starts to jam after around 700 rounds of thunderbolt without cleaning though.

You're in Argentina, OP? Nice, I've always wanted to visit that place.

Anyway, your gun laws are supposedly good but I'm not super familiar with them. If you can get away with it, why not a 9mm instead?

I haven't heard anything bad about Ruger's LCR, but if you get one I would not suggest getting it in .22 if you have the option. Snub nosed revolvers are strictly for self defense, just like compact semi-auto handguns. They are not as fun to shoot as full sized pistols. .22 is a very bad choice for self defense. They don't go well together.

Why not buy multiple guns?

Well, i think i will listen to him THIS ONCE since my that is a facist ass, he told me to get A FUCKING 12 GAUGE AS A SELF DEFENCE GUN, HOW THE FUCK AM I GOING TO GO TO THE FUCKING STREETS WITH A SHOTGUN STRAPPED IN MY BACK?!

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*dad

ok, so i'll check if 9MM is allowed without a license, since our military uses 9mm pistols (i know since my dad fought as an engineer in the flakland wars)

If you want it bad enough

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He probably meant for home defense. A 12 gauge pump is the best thing for that if you can't get an autoloading rifle with 20+ round detachable magazines.

If 9mm is restricted or some shit you could look into a .380, Bersa makes a lot of them and might be cheaper since it's domestic for you. Bersa has a good reputation even in the hyper-competitive market up here in the states.

no, in spanish home defense & self defense are very different
defensa personal (self defense)
para defender mi casa (to defend my house)

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK 9MM IS ILLEGAL HOLY FUCKING SHIT

Shoulder Weapons

Carabines & Fusils, Lever action, 3 Bullet per Trigger pull or semiautomatic
Civil Use: Allowed until .22 LR (largo) (Art. 5 inc 2 ap a. Dto. 395/75).

Handguns

Pistols
Uso Civil: 3 Bullet per Trigger Pull or semiautomatic Allowed until .25 (6,35 mm). (Art 5 inc 1 ap a. Dto 395/75).

Yeah, I have no idea what the fuck he was thinking, in that case.

Anyway, here's the long and short of it:
If you want a gun for self defense, buy a 9mm with double stack magazines that you can reasonably conceal based on your body type and the clothes you wear, or take your dad's advice and buy a LCR but get it in the biggest caliber available to you. If you get the LCR it won't be as fun to shoot and will probably overall be less functional aside from you being able to hold it in a jacket pocket and fire it without even drawing it (this is dangerous to do if you have no firearms experience).

If you want something to just get good at shooting that you don't need to carry around, buy a .22 rifle or an AR15 or FAL if it's possible for you to buy that. I only mention the FAL because your nation's army uses it, maybe it's available in civilian markets to you? I have no idea. If you want to target shoot and want it to be a handgun, a 9mm is good for this but that Ruger talked about earlier is too.

Either way, ask your dad to teach you to shoot. You will especially need help with a pistol, they're more difficult than long guns for most people to learn.

Revolvers
Uso Civil: Tanto de simple como de doble acción Allowed until .32 inclusive (Art 5 inc 1 ap. b. Dto 395/75, texto conforme Dto 821/96).
i didn't translate any useless d

9mm is for military & police use only (if you are a civilian you need a license or be a retired Army man or police officer

+1 for Mark IV.

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i learned that .22 is not that good for self defence

You can buy 3 round burst .22s without a license? lmao

If you want a self defense cartridge smaller than .25, maybe .22 WMR would be good for you. This is a long shot, but there's a company called Kel-tec that makes a handgun that fires .22 WMR and has 30 round magazines. Kel-tec has a reputation for sub-par quality, but I don't have any personal experiences that speak to that. You could do the LCR in .22 WMR, too. Ruger has a reputation for good quality and is probably a wiser choice even if you have like 8 rounds in a revolver vs 30 in a semi auto.

Also, why not just get a firearms license or show up at a gun store and ask what they can sell you?

there are like 2 gun stores in my city, and it's 10 PM in my country
also to get a license i have to enter military service or police service, i prefer to use civilian weapons, since they are cheaper and require minimal training

hey i'm back, my dad apparentally knows what he's doing, he was a Coronel Mayor (Mayor Colonel or OF-6)

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Obviously don't go right now, but I'm sure those guys will have good information for you. That sucks that you need to enter the service for a license.

The weapons not restricted to you will honestly not require minimal training. Any handgun absolutely requires training if you want to use it effectively, they're deceptively hard to keep on target while pulling the trigger compared to a rifle.

If you definitely have to shoot somebody with something .22,
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Or similar ammo with a comparatively high bullet weight is probably a good choice. That's .22 WMR and would be something you could get the Ruger LCR in.

I just looked it up and Bersa makes a .22, which again isn't a good self defense cartridge, but it looks like a really nice little gun. I might buy one for myself.

His rank doesn't have anything to do with him knowing what he's doing, user.

That said, if you ignore everything else in this entire thread, pay attention to this: ask him to teach you to shoot. Practice a lot, because it isn't as easy as it looks.

There's a solution, one of the Police divisions (Local Federal Police or Smurfs [beacuse of their blue uniforms]) they require minimal training to start service, you just patrol the San Justo Plaza (basically the main park of the capital) that Plaza is near my house, the training that's given is Gun Control, Conduct, Codes & Laws (this training takes about 4 months instead of the 2 years of training a normal argentine policeman has) (recruitment ages are from 16+) (i'm 23)

lol that sounds like it's specifically made for children of military and police. Enjoy the privilege of being part of the ruling class

The worst part is, in reality it is made for teenagers without a job

>confirmation bias - the post

2 years of training for a police office. Wow. 4 months is probably more than you get in POST here in the US.

As in I've confirmed it works sure it only cost $170 and I am not particularly attached to it. Just wanted to share my experience

You only put 500 rounds through it. That's child's play for a .22. You should be shooting 2-500 rounds every time you take it to the range.

I only have three mags. And they don't hold enough rounds to dump 500 every trip. I'm not training with it, since it isn't a carry or HD gun (for myself). If I'm shooting .22 usually I'll shoot a 10/22 or ruger American. But not 500 rounds

For those who tell me "handguns aren't easy" I've been airsofting for three months now, and I think I'm prepared for handguns, I've only used my dad's 45 Cal Colt revolver

mosquito is a jamomatic piece of shit
if you want a gun with similar aesthetics that works get a ruger sr22

I've already decided that I'm not using mosquito nor .22

Compared to rifles, hand guns are much more difficult to shoot well. Also, I own a GSG Firefly, which is the exact same as the mosquito but way cheaper if you can get it. And I do mean exact same. GSG made the mosquito but sold them under Sig's name. I quite love it. It's good for getting used to DA/SA shooting. But as someone else already said, the Ruger mk 4 is just about the best reasonably priced .22lr pistol out there

Either you're lying or you had a lemon. mine functions very very well.

>but only with around 500 rounds between us.
Come back after 3.5k or 5k each and see if you still like it.

I've got over 20 guns I can't afford to put 5k rounds through them all even if I had the time

t. actual sig imployee

i have nothing to gain from lying on the internet
maybe i did get a lemon but i'm assblasted that spent on money on that pos

So... My dad told me to do military training and join the military and pray for a post in the border (it's not dangerous apart from some drug addicts trying to get drugs thru)

Sig didn't sell off the mosquito, GSG always made them. Sig dropped it because of the feeding issues that earlier models were prone to have. The gsg Firefly is an ok pistol, you can get a new one for around $200, a little more for a threaded barrel version.

Good, he's right. Do it, but ask him what you need to do to be an officer and then do that. Even if he says some difficult sounding shit, do it.

And then buy lots of guns and come back here and tell us about them.

He says that to be an officer you need at least 6 years of service, and you get your license when you pass basic gun control training

Fuck no.

Ruger .22 mark iv

already decided that no .22 i'll just do military service to get acces to 9MM

how much you pay

wait a second
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
FUCK FUCK FUCK
THE ONLY THING HOLDING ME BACK FROM A GUN IS THE FUCKING PRICE!

1 US$ = 25 AR$

Do that, then. Good luck, user. Buy the .22 anyway in the meantime, it's better than nothing. You'll still appreciate it when you're mil and have 9mm.

AND A FUCKING SOLDIER MAKES ONLY 40K AR$

and beacuse of how many food i need, i'll just have 100 AR$ left, fuck, no gun until next year

don't worry user, you're not the only one Macri has fucked over

This thread is great shit.

Look up Bersa and see if you can afford a .22 from them. Again, they have a pretty good reputation. I bet they're cheaper in your country, way cheaper than a Ruger. And your dad made serious rank, you should be set. Ask him how to do the same. Try to follow in his footsteps.

Imagine being a colonel hanging out on the Chilean border in Tierra del Fuego or some shit. My god. That would be some cool shit. You could have it good, user. Stop screaming and hunt the good stuff.

actually, i'm about to get an english teaching degree and i want to work as an international trade agent (basically sing papers to better our shit economy) also i'm learning to speak Russian & German to make that work much easier

they get paid about 10K US$ a week, it's good shit

Damn, that is some good shit. Well, do that, then.

But also join the military so you can spend your large amounts of cash on weapons.

it isn't a Sig, in the same way that a Walther p22 is not a Walther. Sig has GSG make the things. GSG sells them as the Firefly. They are hot garbage. If you want a cheap ass 22 then get a Beretta Neos.

On what grounds are you saying that? Do you have one, have you ever even shot one? I have one and it's fantastic. I think you're just regurgitating someone else's bullshit

All said and done was roughly $470 new at my lgs. The can only cost me the stamp because it was free with the silencerco hybrid I bought. That shit right there is an absolute joy to shoot when it doesn't jam the fuck up.

It's a good .22 pistol. I've had a mosquito and a Walther P22 at the same time and I liked the feel of the mosquito more. The walther P22 felt less tough and the grip felt small even with the larger insert in it. The mosquito felt more like a real gun with a comfy grip and better feeling slide action. The Walther P22 is a little less picky about ammo though. You need to use good rounds for the mosquito.

>It's a good .22 pistol. I've had a mosquito and a Walther P22 at the same time and I liked the feel of the mosquito more. The walther P22 felt less tough and the grip felt small even with the larger insert in it. The mosquito felt more like a real gun with a comfy grip and better feeling slide action. The Walther P22 is a little less picky about ammo though. You need to use good rounds for the mosquito.