Have you started your training path, or do you just collect firearms?

found the bullet sponge

Rule 11, avoid penis inspection day

>train for years
>take stray bullet to the brain at 400 yards
Lol stop romanticizing your lifestyle, gamerboi

Rule #12 walk your dinosaur daily

GET ON THE FLOOR

You "train" to fight back the evil horde of still paper targets. Stfu kid.

Rule #13 THERE IS NO RULE #13

>kids that have never been in military
>think they wound use sights in combat
Kek. It's called volume of fire, you wanna be combat effective? Buy a heavy barreled ak and a bunch of drums, and some good armor.

>training junkie
>Res enlisted
>short-stack of firearms and more focus on a few
It sucks that I know I won’t be able to do anything at the level I want to be able to, at least no better than a regular boot or marine. Still doesn’t stop me from taking the classes, but what purpose does it serve?

I remember seeing someone ask Larry Vickers a question on m4c. They said they knew they'd never be able to get the best training as a civilian but wanted to know decent options. He said they had it totally backwards. The best weapon manipulation training is all open to the public. He further said dedicated hobbyists are pretty much universally better shooters than .mil guys, with the only exception being truly dedicated sf type guys.

Rule #14 NO SHOOTING THE RANGE JESTER

We’ll trigger time is only so much when it comes to operating, but that information doesn’t surprise me. I like a lot more of the TTP aspect, although I know they’re more limited when it comes to accessibility. Luckily my Res ID typically satisfies any requirements.

In that vein, I know of about a dozen various academies and training grounds that I have or intend to take courses from.
I don’t know if you know a lot of places, but what are some of the best, and then some of the more niche and unknown places that you know of?

>ak
funny way of spelling "AR10"

Keep larping you faggot

The best period is the Rogers Shooting School, but it's a week long class. He does a handgun class with an optional module at night in shotguns, carbines, or subguns. Focus is quick one handed shots. Upside is handgun skill translates over to long guns pretty well, which isn't true the other way.
Other than that pretty much any reputable instructor will provide solid instruction in a couple days. A lot have started offering more "advanced" open classes such as low light, vehicles, and shoot houses. Max Velocity teaches small unit tactics and patrolling.

Generally yeah this. First box to check is "someone who wants to put in the time and effort", which weeds out massive numbers of people. For instance, if you are a pistol guy and stick to a dryfire routine, you're already likely to be better than most military types. If you can shoot strong-side-only or with your weak hand, then it's a step beyond that and you're doing pretty well.

Next question is logistics, because you need to shoot to improve. Depending on the discipline, you can start to see institutional guys pull ahead not necessarily because they're just better or work harder than an average guy, but because someone else is paying their training bills and they can do more of it, more often.

The kicker is even at the sf level a lot guys aren't that into shooting. There are dudes that do it because they love skydiving, scuba diving, etc. You've got sf dudes that barely know what weapons they use. The gun guys set them up, just like the dive guys set up the gun guys' dive gear.
The dedicated guys will seek out more training and get the gov to pay for it. You're gonna have a hard time getting to that level unless you're an independently wealth competition shooter. But if you are you're at the top of the heap because you aren't having to learn all the non-shooting things. I think it was Kyle Lamb who said competitive shooters were his best students and can adapt to "tactical" shooting easily. Said if they already know how to shoot it's easy to teach them to do it standing behind a barricade.

Rule #15 If their age is off the clock, they're ready for the Glock

>he doesn't do force on force training

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You play airsoft. You are delusional.

So you arent familiar with what force on force training is. Alright buddy, you seem to know everything and shitposting on Jow Forums is training so you are the expert on the topic!

I dont even leave my house anymore
Sometimes not even my bedroom
I havent physically felt sunlight on my skin in about a month and a half

This will trigger Jow Forums, but TR is unironically a good place to start

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Does anybody have the Shrek cringe meme?

>but TR is unironically a good place to start

youtube.com/watch?v=sAdemRhuHDg
...no thanks, fuck off.

Chuck Yeager can teach you to take cover with the best of them.
Just don't volunteer to take pictures.

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Say what you will, but not one of Jeff Cooper's four rules of firearms safety were broken

Rule 4: be aware of your target and what's around it.
There is nothing gained by having people downrange during training and it's a massive risk.

Pretty sure those students were aware of him being there. Rule 4 not broken

this?

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> Have you started your training path
Yes, but monthly ammo costs for just 400 rounds a month spread over semi-monthly visits is already biting into my discretionary budget and weekend scheduling. Meanwhile, all the lifers at the range are like, "Those are rookie numbers, bro. You need at least 250 rounds per week of trigger time, minimum."

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You'll be more than alright if you supplement with dry practice

Stop being poor

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I hear you, but dry fire doesn't do shit for my abysmal split times though.

Sounds like you at least know what skills to target at the range. Godspeed user

I would unironically tell everyone to stop and take control of that situation.

Rule #16. If range jester requests crab legs. Please ask for brass in return.

Part of being aware is not shooting when there's a chance of hitting someone and no risk in not taking a shot.
Yeager's insistence on "big boy rules" due to his insecurity is going to get someone shot. He's already been banned from a range after an instructor ND'd a truck. And he's been bros with Sonny ever since Sonny shot that instructor.
There's nothing he teaches you can't learn from a more qualified instructor who isn't subjecting people to needless risk.

Rule 1: look good
Rule 2 : look good
Rule 3: safety is first
Rule 4: never trust a hippie

Not him, but:

>lol why even train you'll just die anyway

Sounds a lot like:

>lol why even carry a gun, you'll probably just get killed with it

I shoot weekly. If I've got the time (usually do) I do the following.

Pistol:

Session type 1:

>shoot a few rounds for group
>reactive fire from holster, two hands
>reactive fire from holster, one hand
>reactive fire from holster, multiple targets, reload integrated
>shooting from unconventional positions (urban prone, from a seated position, kneeling)
>toss a few out to 100m just to say I can

Session type 2:

>60 round FBI qual
>40 round APQC

Session type three:

>focus on form and rhythm on steel range

My rifle routine is a little more boring:

Session type 1:

>ALT-C qual
>ready-ups

Session type 2:

>ALT-C qual
>ready-ups
>moving fire
>3-position transition drills
Session type 3:

>ALT-C qual
>ready-ups
>barrier fires
>moving/transitioning

I do this and PT a lot. I'm a milfag, not a super cool kind but my unit gets me a fair amount of time doing cool shit like MOUT and cool weapons and reactive lanes and ETS-2000 shoot-or-don't-shoot. Between all of it, I think I do alright.

I try but it's not working well.

I try to shoot often, measure my groups and record the results over time, but I don't seem to be improving much (I'm still lucky to land all my shots on a paper plate a 50 yards with most weapons). I've been working at it for like a year now without much noticeable improvement.

And I'm even worse with handguns.

Handguns are inherently more difficult.
Groupings at 3 yards are hard enough for most people, start real short and work your way up.
As long as you can put shots on target don't worry about group sizes too much. In a real gunfight you won't be measuring your grouping at the end anyways.

I'm retired Mil so I have the training I maintain proficiency.

I'm 45 so my 100 pound day long ruck marches and jump over the wall days are over. So I have expanded my focus on long range rifle work.

IMHO the best training you can have is to be comfortable in the woods with out a shit ton of gear. Your mind is the best asset and will be with you. Gucci gear and guns are fun but be brilliant in the basics like woodscraft and moving quietly.

Rule #17 Consummation of baked beans on this property will result in immediate execution.

fucking cringe

Rule #18 Brass goblins (aka brass thieves) are to be shot on sight