Australian F-35s

Why the fuck are we spending so much money on F-35s? We're ordering 70 more over the next few years but it's insanely over budget and past schedule, is our military fucking itself over or is there really a benefit to focusing so hard on these meme fighters?

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>australians
>shitposting
color me surprised

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You get more Good Boy Points with the US and in the process make the eternal ch*nk extremely butthurt. Win-win, buddy.

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because the adf is run by zionist boomer politicians who suck that juicy US/Kike cock.

this country is fucking shit

what the fuck is the f35 even good at?

>ground attack - a10/f22
>air to air - f22/f16

don't forget the multi-role capabilities of the F-35

t. huang

What else would they buy instead?

>it's insanely over budget and past schedule

None of which will affect you because Australia never paid a penny for its development. You will get a bargain on a 5th Gen multirole aircraft because we're going to be making a shitload of them.

>china
>caring about Australia
China's very happy. They're just waiting for the aussie to sell one f 35 to them to scrap.

Embarrassing post.

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>>china
>>caring about Australia
If they didn't care, they wouldn't be actively trying to subvert the fucking government.

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>multi role
That's my trigger word
I got to fly for twenty minutes in a purpose built interceptor to calm down now

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F-16, F/A-18?

I mean within the military context, which is what this whole thread about. Every cunt likes influence with every country, but all Australia threatens China's military interests with is a handful of ships that is barely within range of the SCS.

China already ripped off the F35, look up J20 - it's pretty much exactly the same
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-20

>but all Australia threatens China's military interests with is a handful of ships that is barely within range of the SCS.
except the submarines that are inevitably going to be operating around south east asia and especially inside the south china sea when china starts invading countries, you know, since most of our trade goes through those waters

and the american spy bases

and the marines here

and the occasional carrier visits

and the army

and the air force

they have plenty to gain by dividing us from the americans

>canard and delta wing with different fuselage shape that was already test flying when the Lockheed breach happened
>f 35 clone

If anything it's based on the mig 1.44 retard

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rather have a jack of all trades then having to spend 20B more for purpose built fighters.

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They already have F-18's
China isn't trying to simply "influence" Australia, they literally turned Aussie politicians into agents of the PRC, and have been slowly trying to worm their way into Aussie universities and shut down any anti-PRC thought. That's plain subversion.

I don't think that's true. You are paranoid.

>I don't think that's true. You are paranoid.
get the fuck out, chinese shill. ASIO revealed this literal years ago.

>believing ASIO's lies

>subs
You mean the ones that is going to take ten days to get there and ten to get back, with an endurance of 80 days, and of which Australia has a half dozen?

China isn't going to invade any country except Taiwan. They want the SCS so America can't blockade them and they can encircle taiwan from the south.

I'd like to hear how the aircraft or army is going to project force into the SCS. Spy base, eh, maybe, if China beams unencrypted shit all the way to Australia.

If they care about anyone its singapore, Philippines and Indonesia.

>You mean the ones that is going to take ten days to get there and ten to get back, with an endurance of 80 days, and of which Australia has a half dozen?
no, the ones that are going to have greater endurance, operating out of asian ports. you know we're planning to make 12 new subs, right? even in 10 years we'll have 12 subs, just half collins class half new ones.

they're not worthless either.

>China isn't going to invade any country except Taiwan.
oh shit mate, you're right, china invading a sovereign country in the middle of international trade waters isn't important, fuck pass me a VB

>I'd like to hear how the aircraft or army is going to project force into the SCS.
our new LHDs and these things called overseas airbases.

>Spy base, eh, maybe, if China beams unencrypted shit all the way to Australia.
pine gap doesn't spy on communications you halfwit, it collects information from american satellites passing over asia. it's one of the most important overseas assets the americans have.

>F-16, F/A-18?
A block 60 F-16 costs as much as the F-35A does and Aussies already have legacy bugs.

Why dont you go back where you fucking came from then mate. The rest of us dont like having you around any more than you seem to enjoy being here.

We have literally a third of the worlds uranium at our disposal and are a vital staging ground for any co-ordinated push into the South Pacific. Let me assure you that the chinks consider us a VERY high priority target

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>I'm not trying to subvert you, the real bad guy here is your intelligence agencies.
>You know, the ones that keep warning you about how I'm trying to subvert you.
>Fuck those guys.

No they don't. Stop believing you're so important. It's all China can do to occupy some Spratly's islands. They have no interest in attacking or even invading Australia. Regarding the raw minerals, this is why they are buttering up African dictators. They have you by the nose anyway. They buy lots of your minerals and could crash your economy if they want to.

>posts anime

lol

If they have no interest in attacking Australia why are they moving strategic bombers into range of Queensland? Why are they moving to cut off our largest trade route? Why are they spending so much time and money buying out Australian politicians and blackmailing the local Chinese population?

Why are you here, lying to me about your masters plans?

>buying out Aus politicians
What evidence do you have of this? The only fuckup we've had is some pollies having kiwi citizenship

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>What evidence do you have of this?
literally everything ASIO has said for the last 3 years

>operating out of Asian ports
My point. The Asian ports are the real key. If China gets them to deny NATO access, everyone, including Australia, can't operate.

>taiwan
Which Australia is pretty fucking helpless to assist except for providing a port that's about the same distance from Guam. And if history is anything to go by, one or two divisions of soldiers.

>LHDs
Haha seriously? Choppers are going to just be missile sponges.

>overseas air bases
Which proves my point, Asian bases are the key. And Asian airbases are mostly going to be used for US jets.

Do you have some sort of desire to be important to China? You're really doing mental gymnastics hard here. China has a strategic inventory and it's own reserves, and kazakhstan. They have no military use for it except operating a handful of nuclear subs and possible nuclear carriers. They're not running out of it anytime soon.

>moving bombers into range of Queensland
>buying sensationalist media bait
They've landed bombers on the SCS which have a range covering the whole of SEA. To reinforce the islands.

>If China gets them to deny NATO access, everyone, including Australia, can't operate.
except that's not going to happen

>And if history is anything to go by, one or two divisions of soldiers.
you're retarded, then

>Choppers are going to just be missile sponges.
they're not for helicopters...

>And Asian airbases are mostly going to be used for US jets.
desert storm had 2,250 combat aircraft. 1,800 of those were american. i think we can manage considering our feasible deployment capability is somewhere around 40 fighters at any one time.

what part of "vital staging ground for any co-ordinated push into the South Pacific" do you not understand

the japanese bombed us for a reason. that same reason applies here.

Not who you're replying to but citing the nips is a bad idea given how little sense their overall strategy made. Bombing Australia achieved next to nothing and was a massive resource sink.

>insanely overbudget
paid for by the american taxpayer :^)
you'd be a fool not to buy them on the backs of those poor schmucks

do you think chinks are smarter than japs or what?

yellowman is a comin

You have to be oved 18 to post here.

>over budget and past schedule.

The redevelopment of willy town is nearly finished. The the first batch pilots and maintainers have almost finished training in Arizona and will be ready when the jets arrive here at the end of the year.

But the Japs never got to Aus thanks to burgers holding them up.

Australia is no threat to the People's Republic of China. Unlike you, when we wage war on the perfidious avian, we win.

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>a billion chinks kill off every sparrow in sight due to the word of Mao
>bugs eat all the crops due to no sparrows
>millions of chinks starve

Did you forget Labor shitcanned one of their senators because he was taking bribes from the Chinese and leaking them documents? Almost six months ago now.

it was this man

Nigger, an F-22 is a superiority fighter. Not ground attack. Wtf is wrong with you?

ground attack - a10/f16
>air to air - f22/f22

Fixed

Are you literally retarded?

>test flight 2011
>steal plans 2013
>j20 is literally an f35 copy

This meme needs to die.

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>freebeacon.com/national-security/nsa-details-chinese-cyber-theft-of-f-35-military-secrets/

Why would they? They have everything they need already. Were you never curious as to why the J-20, J-31 and all their stealth drones look familiar? Chinks don't create anything. They steal it.

>a billion chinks kill off every sparrow in sight
Decisive Chinese Victory, yes.
>bugs eat all the crops due to no sparrows
>millions of chinks starve
There is always a price to pay in war. Pampered western imperialists do not grasp this and are therefore destined to be defeated.

Says the insectoid whos military leaders have no combat experience. Have fun when General ping pong orders you to walk off a cliff.

We don't have A10's, tho.
They drank the "F35's can do everything specialised planes can do" kool-aid

Hate to break it to you champ but multirole aircraft have been the backbone of every significant air force for decades, and successful at doing exactly that.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-31

Yeah but I still think the A-10's are cool and it's shit we don't have any.

your right, buy from the Chinese.
You do realize there was a time when OZ built fighters, bombers, tanks and ships, what happened to you?

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australia doesn't have any F-22s though

where should he go in your opinion? also can you prove to me you wouldn't participate in human sacrifice if the government told you to? thanks

actually don't answer any of that. if everyone had your attitude there wouldnt be anywhere else to go, and there nearly isn't

Chinese

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KAI_KF-X
The Koreans have a nice cheap F-35 knockoff in the works...

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>cheap
No one knows the price per unit of the KFX because its still in the development phase.
I doubt its going to be cheaper than an F-35 simply because they're only producing 150-200 aircraft.

Sea sprites, abrahams etc. They sell us their shit. Kanimbla manoora. At least we got a free huey before you guys pushed it into the tonkin.

It's a simple choice, really. You buy F-35s and get fucked by the US commercially, or don't and get fucked politically.

you ordered the Tiger helicopter

Just be glad you aren't Canada

Because you have old-ass shit that's getting both way more expensive to use that also doesn't actually meet your strategic needs.