I've been asking some of my long-range shooting friends what the bubble level is for. They all simply say "It's so you know your gun is level when you are taking those really long shots." I reply with "Can't you tell with the crosshair if your scope is level or not as you shoot? Can you even see the level when you're looking down the scope?" They can't answer that. I think they're just trying not to admit it's just there for show.
What's the point of bubble levels, and what are some other attachments that you think are absolutely pointless?
>Can you even see the level when you're looking down the scope?"
No?
William Hernandez
How dumb are you? Is your eye better able to detect true level than a machine designed for the purpose? You not appreciating something means nothing, even if some of the people running these are just doing it for show
Sebastian Powell
Anti cant devices are good. If you are off by like 2moa at 1000 yards because you aren't level and screw up your wind hold you miss the target. You should be able to see the level with your other eye if it is placed right. Normally I just level out and lock my bipod down.
It's called an anti-cant device. The interface between human and rifle isn't perfect, cant happens and it varies from shooter to shooter as we're all a little different.
I also use one for my AR when I zero and test the optics tracking, very useful tool.
Alexander Hall
All you have to do is look at trees and the horizon.
Caleb Myers
>anti-cant device Why not just call it a "can device"
At 1000 yards, you need to keep in mind variable humidity and wind speed along the bullet's flight path. At this distance, you'll also have to take the Coriolis Effect into account.
Jackson Sanders
Your bullets are going to drop towards earth regardless of which way your rifle and scope are canted.
If you are using your reticle for holding over at distance, the reticle needs to be level so you're holding over at the right place.
You don't look at the level while you're looking through the scope, you get everything level first and then you make the shot.
shut the fuck up no you don't have to take the coriolis effect into account... or wait you're meming from a movie.
Brody Perry
wow... there's a reason mils are used. are you fucking more precise that machines?
Eli Reyes
Nah, the plot is barely similar.
Jonathan Moore
Close both eyes, still hit him in the arm.
Hudson Nguyen
Nigger
Brody Kelly
How much cant iz good? Well depends on range you are shooting at. If you are shooting at 100m-300m the error will be hard to notice. At 300m you might think it was a shooter/windage error. Beyond that the scope cant starts to become a stacking issue. 3 deg of cant @ 200m will equate approx 1" of error while one at 1000m will produce approx. 24in of horizontal error( on rando 308 load.) Thats known to snipers as "missing." The reason this is such a problem is that when you dial in your corrections on a canted rifle, you are moving the center of the reticle away—at a 3-degree angle for example—from the perfectly vertical line-of-flight the bullet follows. (Gravity) The bubble level is leveled to the scope crosshairs by means of a plumb Bob and you match the vertical stadia to the string of the P.bob. Next time you see your Smith "leveling" your crosshairs with a level on the top of the turret, know that there is a good chance the turret wasn't built to match the crosshair.....
They want to believe science can make them a great shooter, and that they can buy things and bolt them to their gun to make them a great shooter. Reality is science will only get you so far, being a great shot is an art. This upsets them.
Jonathan Morales
Yeah I didn't really start seeing these levels as a common accessory until Chinese ones from eBay were $1.49
Ryder Davis
>river gently slopes >trees are mostly vertical >cant use this to find level You're not gonna make it brah.
Landon Sanchez
All this bait, or, enjoy your missed shots
Dylan Perry
>cant use branches formed by prevailing winds >cant average the clouds You're not gonna make it brah.
Tyler Johnson
>Riflemen have been making long shots for over 100 years >Tiny level is invented >Long shots are now impossible without tiny level >There are no methods for visually estimating level accurately Shooting is an art and nothing you bolt to your rifle can save you, this upsets you.
Lincoln Lee
Dude I played that mission for the first time last night since I was like 13. Noice
Robert Cruz
Not everything is perfectly level and you might not have a good reference to see if your rifle is canted. It's pretty cool how little movement the level will pick up. Personally I don't have to break position to see the level, I just look at it with my non shooting eye and then switch back to the shooting eye. Takes about a second and it gives me peace of mind.
Grayson Murphy
Try hitting even a 1 mil target @ 1000m w/o faggot. You will blame it on the wind, the gun, or your scope.
in that case you need to use an optic equipped with a dial capable of rotating the sight clockwise or counter-clockwise to account for the sideways motion of the target
Aiden Lee
>what is cant >the post OP is an extremely inaccurate faggot
Aaron Young
I was wondering about this. I get the hold over but I was confused about just straight shooting. Thanks
Colton Barnes
Dumbass, that's not right.
So you use a technique called Kentucky windage where you trace the southern border of the state of Kentucky with your reticle, estimating how far from the Missouri or Virginia border (depending on their movement direction, east or west) your target would be in km / hr as converted to mils.
Example: My target is moving from right to left (West on a map) at what looks like a walking normal speed. So at a walking speed he'll get from Middlesboro to Hickman (581 km) in ~121 hours. 581 / 121 = 4.30578512397. So you'd aim about 4-4.5 mils ahead of your target. Bam. Dead on accurate.
Jack Carter
>What's the point of bubble levels To look more tacticool.
Isaac Cox
It gives your bullets a corrosive coating to help penetrate armor.
Oliver Adams
>When your "Long shots" are all 400 yards and in thisnigger.jpg
Asher Peterson
Dude what the fuck did you say
Brody Nguyen
>They can't answer that. Oh they can answer it. They just realized they were talking to a retard.
Ian Sanchez
>>trees are mostly vertical Not on my property. They are all badly windswept.
New favorite post, may your reign be as long as your predecessor's.
Hudson Cox
Have another (you), this is fantastic.
Easton Cooper
>not using a protractor to find out the angle his trees are bent
Levi Cox
They are all different. The ground is multi-sloped, the soil is shallow, the species of tree are varied. Sheeeiiit, even all of the fenceposts are crooked because of the shallow soil. Where the soil is deep enough, it's bog - so those lean too.
wh-wh-what's that morty? True Level? *Burp* You haven't seen true level morty
Angel Johnson
Fuck off back to r****t.
Jack White
With larger calibers muzzle break pulloff is a serious issue. I will be off 4" at 100 yards on my 50 BMG if it is not level.
Evan Howard
I need to amend that..... from a bench its not a real problem because there is room for the dead air blast to clear but from prone where the blast hits the ground 9" from the muzzle it will make it jump bad if canted.
Shooting a 50 from the bench sucks ass so I rarely do it.
