Theoretically if someone used a ar500 target as makeshift body armor...

ribcages exist

A warhammer will not penetrate a piece of steel that's thick enough to stop a rifle round. Doesn't matter if its armor plate or not.

What about reloaded 308 with m2 ap projectiles?

If the round doesn't penetrate then about as much damage as the shooter's organs would take from the recoil, if he had welded that plate to the butt of his rifle and held it to his torso while shooting.

If the round penetrates, the the blunt trauma from the armor trying to do its job will be less than that.

None. Spalling would be bad if it wasnt a covered plate though.

You would feel a little sting from the plate reverberating, fall over because you're wearing steel plates, and possibly get shrapnel in your eye. The plate will bang you in the nuts if you fall over and you will land on your keys.

or look at night footage of tracers. all the flasher ricochet look cool until you realize that shit is what happens to everything you put downrange

I Took a plate hit back in my .mil days (not ar500 but ceramic)

It felt like a cross between a donkey punch and a belly flop and knocked the wind out of me. Best guess was it was 7.62x39 had some purple bruises at the edges of where the plate was.

I'm Alive and made it back from that OP so plates do work. You stay in the fight, not the silly Hollywood shit of flying back and shit. I remember saying FUUUUUUUUUUK inside my head but finished my mag and got behind hard cover never even checked till we were safe.

Your mind is going a million miles and hour so you don't notice minor shit like dings bumps and shit till it's over.

It always amazes to see with just how much conviction people who are blatantly wrong, will say things with

I think he's more referencing that there's more energy in the hammer since the mass difference is so extreme. Arguably, you may feel the hammer blow more than a single bullet, but if your eyes were closed I doubt you could tell the difference.

A hammer blow will cave your chest in and murder you.

to a Bare chest yes. The head of a hammer is about 1.5 inches across. the average bullet is .30 inch but OP asked about plate shots plates are about 1 foot square being hit by .3 inch at about 2500 fps.

Do they not teach math and science in school anymore?
Look up force equations.

t. the oldfag that took a plate hit in .mil

Go ahead and hit some ar500 with your warhammer then

Newton mother fucker.
Been away from Jow Forums for a year and you faggots still don't understand Newtonian laws.

>when you lie about an experience but get all the known physics wrong to prove you are lying.

Yep you are 100% correct I will disregard my 20 years of service thanks for your wise input.

Oh man what a terrible fate

>not a literally steel plate that wouldnt be pierced or even dented by a warhammer.
The reason warhammers are good is because they can kill the knight in armor even if the hit lands on armor

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He's pretty correct actually
You can find similar experiences as well as footage of guys taking rounds in the plates
Also
>known physics
You don't even know how mass and dissipation of energy works eat shit normie

They're not meant to pierce thick armor, only weak points. The mass is the most useful part

>implying the force of the recoil is equal to the force of the round exiting the chamber
>doesn't understand the basic mechanics of a cartridge
>doesn't understand that the entire point of weapon designs is that the rearward energy is redirected out the chamber and this is why bullets actually fucking work
>doesn't even want to do the basic math of what would logically happen if you took a hit from an 8 pound rifle into your shoulder at 3000 fps
I've seen this retarded nogunz shit for so long now and I'm still fucking sick of it

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>what is a gorgot?

>implying the force of the recoil is equal to the force of the round exiting the chamber
But it does.

>doesn't understand that the entire point of weapon designs is that the rearward energy is redirected out the chamber and this is why bullets actually fucking work
No the bullet is pushed out of the chamber by expanding gas and an equal and opposite force is directed into the rifle and by extension the shooter. A rifle weighs orders of magnitude heavier than a bullet and adding a shooter into the equation adds even more mass.

p= mv

this... don't even bother telling em why they're wrong

>About as much damage as the shooter's organs would take from the recoil
wait wait wait wait wait.
which mental institution did you escape from? Oh thats right. You're parents noguns and nevershotafuckinggun and neverseenhowagunworks basement?

Im not sure whats more disappointing. Your statement or the fact no one bothered to google up a plate injury. Pictures = 1000 words. You haven't hit your character limit but your done.

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This doesn't take into account things like recoil springs, and the amount of time that the gun applies pressure to you. While it seems insignificant short, the instant shock on target is more than the shooter will feel.

Even with a bolt gun, no recoil buffer, the over all length of time force applied to shooter is longer, thus the target will feel more suddenly.

Example is why car jacks are effective, it takes the same amount of force to lift a car, but it's spread over a length of time.

That's not an AR500 plate Chang

>the point
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>the physics
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You might pick up some nifty spalling damage behind the plate, and bullet splat in the chin, but blunt force trauma? .50bmg is on par with a grown man punching you. (But not localized, it's like they punched you in the steel plate.) Rifle cartridges are less and intermediate cartridges are even less, probably like getting slapped by a loli.

Close, but not really. Velocity matters; a 5-lb rifle plus a 10-lb plate is 15lb, so rifle+plate would actually have only two-thirds the recoil velocity of the plate catching a bullet.
Steel plates are heavy as fuck, which is bad for wearing them for any length of time, but it reduces the velocity, and thus trauma, for any given bullet momentum.

On the other hand, rifle recoil is more than (around double) the projectile's momentum, because the jet of propellant gasses causes recoil, but doesn't (normally) hit the target.

>not ar500, the point of the whole stupid thread

>>when you lie about an experience

You are wrong kid. I got shot, upper back right bullet stopped in the kevlar and sill have problems with my shoulder blade, probably 7.62 x39 from a distance, could not even lift my right arm for a few days after, massive bruise

If you first:
>Put the fucker with some VERY thick rubber-like (or rubber directly) coating, at least 6mm .
>Put a foam, or better EVA foam underneath the plate. At least 6mm again.
I suppose it could work fine. Or am I wrong, Jow Forums?

Books would work as a pretty good spall barrier and a pillow would be decent padding I think.

I was given a few hardox IV. plates but with no coating, so I'm thinking here.

Don't acknowledge this faggot dude, he got his shit checked by the whole thread and now he's backpedaling like a fucking autistic kid trying to crawl up a playground slide

>.mil
Something smells arfcom.

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I met reliable people that took hits in Iraq and Afghanistan and the varying conditions yielded vastly different results across the cases. Most of them had scars from hits that never touched armor so I have no reason to believe they lied about the hits to their armor.

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you'll be fine IF it hits that tiny 12x12 plate but then when you're trying to pick yourself up and shake off the shock,the the rest of the magazine is inbound so goodluck.