Which bullpup is the best and why?
Battle of the Bullpups
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>AUG
>Israeli shit that is overpriced
>Fish gun
hmmmmmm
I can't decide if the aug or the tavor is better, but the F2000 is definately the worst of the three guns. It jams, has bad ergonomics, and is heavy.
Ayy yuu gee
Why is the AUG supposedly better than the rest? I can't help but think Jow Forums has a bias on this matter. The f2000 looks terrible so nobody owns it here (muh asthetics hurr). The tavor is made by jews so there's no love there. That leaves the AUG as the least shit by Jow Forums definitions.
Or is it actually good?
AUG has been around since the 80's. All the kinks were worked out long ago.
Steyr is an odd company (really old fashioned) but they make good guns
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>F2000 looks terrible
Some people just have shit taste
The AUG is the most proven bullpup, its been around since the late 70s. Everything about it is great besides muh trigger but who cares. You are right about the tavor, fuck that kike made shit.
That soldier didn't think very much about which side his gas mask filter should be on.
Fuck... I've never thought about it till now.
I've learned something about gas masks.
>Hello. I am your grandpa.
>tfw every modern gun is just 1 gun that no one but the Irish seem to remember.
It was too A E S T H E T I C for this world, and people chose ugboots, xboxhuge and fish guns.
hey look at these trendy words I know.
>denying the beauty of the little Armalite
Enjoy your plastic boat.
You cant get a cheek weld or see down your sights with a gas mask on anyways so it doesnt really matter.
t. muhreen that has run drills with gas mask on.
No. None of them are good. That's why nobody uses them anymore.
>has bad ergonomics, and is heavy.
Ah, so you've never held one. Well that's certainly a valuable opinion you have.
To the part of Jow Forums that owns an actual suppressor;
>f2000 is a suprisingly good suppressor bullpup
>keltec rdb is also fairly good, but its keltec so...
>steyr Aug is okay (sorta like an unmodded Ar15 with a can. A bit noisey and gassey)
>lithgow atrax f90; once it reaches the US market, its supposed to actually be better than a steyr with a can. (I suspect lithgow has a gas port adjustment that actually works and vents back into the cylinder)
>Tavor is god fucking awful with a can. Noisey, ejection port somehow amplifies the fucking noise right into your ear, the gasket to keep gas away from your face doesnt do shit so you end up with a rectangular carbon imprint on your face, it fucking spits like a prissy frigid woman, and its auschwitz-tier gassy. For a jew gun, it channels its inner holobunga and tries its damned to choke you to death with exhaust gasses vented directly into your nostrils/face.
Once Jow Forums graduates from moist nuggets into the NFA toy realm, the guns that you think would end up being good, suck shit with a suppressor attached.
>fish gun
t. newfag
>>f2000 is a suprisingly good suppressor bullpup
Why? Isn't it basically an AUG in terms of piston setup?
Thanks for the input, I haven't ventured into suppressors yet.
I did want an AUG but now I'm considering the f90 instead if its better suppressed.
>>steyr Aug is okay (sorta like an unmodded Ar15 with a can. A bit noisey and gassey)
The AUG suppressor-capable gas-plugs are available now. I tried it on my AUG with YHM titanium can. Much less gassy, bolt carrier now runs at normal speed. Still fairly loud compared to other guns with a suppressor, but worth it.
>nobody uses them anymore
Except for the countries that use each of the rifles in the OP post.
I've shot all 3 - a tavor SAR16 with both stock and super sabra triggers, an AUG A3 and its 9mm conversion, and a stock FS2000.
Tavor: plenty of magazines to choose from compared to the others, stock trigger sucks, super sabra is excellent though. worst balance/ergos of the 3, but most aftermarket and very modular. does have a tendency to spray gas back at you while shooting even without suppressor. control locations are okay, take down is easy
AUG A3: trigger sucks, mags are rare (holy shit literally no one sells A3 9mm para magazines), not much modularity (the rifle I shot had the rare custom extended A3 forearm which helps but is not easy to find). Takedown sucks
FS2K: trigger sucks, can't use most polymer magazines as magwell was designed only for gi mags, even less modular than the AUG, front ejection is really nice. Takedown is pretty easy, but lack of support and aftermarket is a huge deterrent. Great ergonomics
Overall, my favorite of the bunch is the tavor with the super sabra trigger, but just because the trigger is better and it has a better selection of magazines to use. I'd still rather shoot a Gucci AR though
You can tell it's heavier and handles worse than the other bullpups just from looking at it.
Diff user but,
Yeah you obviously havent held one.
F2Ks are hollow as fuck. I feel like they would probably float like the Henry survival .22 rifle. Its one of the several things that turned me off of the F2K. I feel like it could be thin and ergonomic like the AUG but they decided to make it a toy boat with a toilet seat cover instead.
What about this one?
It's 12.7mm which is good for CQB and can be converted into a sniper rifle by attaching a scope and suppressor.
You can even add an extendo clip for full auto and turn the scope to the max magnification to make it shoot harder
literally fucking when?
Ive been waiting for so long, apparently they are running into issues with the ATF as they want the Bolt to be the serialized part.
I really want the NATO version though.
>You can tell it's heavier
It's literally lighter than the AUG you fucking dope.
can the ATF just fuck off?
sigh. do want.
they get cool shit while we wait for this nonfunctional crap.
meh. AUG mags are 10x better than AR mags.
Is it true that all bullpups fling empty shells at your face when you fire them?
>It's 12.7mm which is good for CQB
...It's literally a sniper rifle with a 5 round magazine.
Thats debatable. Not that it matters, I have dozens of AR mags. It would be nice just to have a gun that works with what I have.
Why is there no AR lower that takes AUG mags?
Only if your a degenerate lefty. Then its not so much fling them at your face as it is throw them directly into it like its trying to impale them through your skull.
The only bullpup ive fired is the Tavor and its trigger was so godawful that i swore off pretty much any other bullpup.
same here famalam
I want NATO AUG
AUG
Cyka Blyat!
This gun looks progressively less well thought out as you move from front to back.
Thats because its an SKS, than been cut in half, glued back together backwards and then stuck in an aftermarket bullpup stock.
It does still work though.
Doing CQC firing exercise few weeks ago, DI forced us to peak a left corner with our AUG's in the left hand, casing went right into the corner of my mouth and stuck to it and burnt the fuck out of it, made me look like I had forgotten to clean my mouth after eating for a month. Fuck that DI.
I fired a full auto one at the bull pup shoot about a year ago. It was definitely the gun of the shoot for me. It is super smooth and even while mag dumping the thing never moved (It didn't have a brake/comp on it either just a flash hider.) I also fired a full auto AUG and Tavor, The F90 wins hands down. It is almost a pound lighter than the AUG but it still manages to have less felt recoil, and the trigger wasn't terrible for a bullpup.
Pic related (My fat face shooting an F90)
>Fuck that DI.
No he's an hero for pointing out bullpup problems you'd never think of until you ran into them. Imagine learning that lesson in combat.
No.
>tfw really really want a fishgun.
Only 5.56 gun im interested in at all.
But live in NY so I'd have to register it, so will not have until I move out of state which is probably never.
I would agree with you, but it took him by surprise too, and people had said before we started that it would happen, he said "We'll see".
>mfw I said everything was fine and it went well
BEEP BEEP MOVE IT FAGGOTS BEST BULLPUP COMING THROUGH COMING FROM OUTER SPACE AND INTO UR WIFE'S PUSS
>tfw I recognize that metallic bolt clump.
Sorry but no. Much as its a fun meme gun, No.
Keep your damn mouth shut
>fishgun
Its the boat gun
the XM8 is the fish gun
get your memes straight
feed geometry. AUGs claim to fame is that for decades aluminum magazines were shit. Not the case now that PMAGs exist.
>fishgun
were the fuck do you dumb nigger come from?
What is this knockoff Halo rifle?
HTA MBS 95
pistol cal long gun, so dumb
It's a post op problem solva carbine. They gave it a little nip and tuck And it comes in Best cm, so that's cool.
>ask opinion
>HURRRR DURRRR YOU'RE BIASED
Okay kiddo, you can fuck back off to /v/ now.
>Best cm
kek
only answer
The tavor literally gases you every time you fire it. If you try to run it suppressed it turns into a mobile Auschwitz. It costs a ton of money and has like 3 to 4 moa accuracy at 100 yards. All combined with a bad trigger. I'm convinced it's summer sort of practical joke designed for the goyem only.
I also find the cheek weld very blockish and uncomfortable.
I've never personally experienced the tavor gas thing
Words can't describe how jelly I am. I have wanted the f90 for years now.
Hi there.
>bongpup
Best at being a joke
>pistol cal long gun, so dumb
You're an idiot.
Ah, so it's a bullpup Hi Point conversion, that's kinda neat. Also there's this picture of tactical Alex Turner using one so there's that.
Is that a FAMAS?
All bullpups are awful.
Give me one in 10mm.
Wrong. Bullpups are great.
>garbage trigger
>garbage prone reload
no thanks.
Nobody cares about your wrong opinion.
When you're exactly forty dollars short of being able to afford a real bullpup so you put the budget into jacking up a meme gun for instagram followers after stenciling moanin' labia into the airsoft stock and slap a thirty dollar plastic magpul iron sight set on the rail.
#CIVILIANOPERATOR
Maybe not with crappy American gear, but i managed
F2000. It's the most aesthetic.
Different user but it's obvious to everyone lurking that you have absolutely no background with firearms
what do you guys think about the Croatian VHS?
It's alright, I guess.
Really wish I hadn't been the fucking idiot that bought a Croatian Betamax but life is a learning experience.
If you have problems reloading a bullpup from the prone it's because you have brain problems.
No, I'm with him
Tell me it's as convenient as a standard mag placement reload. Go ahead and tell me that. Lie right to my face.
Keep fighting the good fight, 1st civ div. Mormon lamius. III
good to see my forgotten noguns country being posted on Jow Forums
It's the same shit except one is closer to your shoulder. Go ahead and tell me you're not retarded. Say it right to my face.
>any of these
You've never held, much less shot a F2000.
Didgeri kill yourself
>garbage prone reload
I honestly can't imagine how the people who think this are reloading from a prone position. You have to twist an AR to the side, too.
Can we stop replying to the idiot faggot teenager who doesn't understand how supported firing positions work? Thanks.
Only if you're using 30 rounders bruv
>I'm too stupid to properly load a rifle
>hurr durr kiddies civilians on muh Jow Forums
I have an AUG A3M1. It's good except for the charging handle fucking my hand up every time I use it with any kind of speed. The rail on top is a cheese grater and you will hit it often with your knuckles.
T. Someone who has never tried to change magazines from aller nata with his head down
I didn't want one until I shot it. There were dozens of guns at the shoot and I just kept coming back to the F90. The sad thing is I was about the only one. Every other gun had a long line waiting to shoot them. The F90 had very few people going to shoot it. I shot AKs, ARs, a Tavor, an AUG, an RPD, and an MP9, all full auto, at the shoot and the F90 beat them all.
Pic not related to comment, but related to thread in general.
Just because you're retarded doesn't mean everyone else is.
Nice reaction image. Just come in from /b/? The playplace is in the back of the dining hall.
And I'm terribly, terribly sorry that in the last seventy years that the United States Marine Corps never consulted gamers that live with their parents for insight to improve marksmanship and personnel safety under incoming fire. I really, really hope that one day you get the recognition you deserve for your revolutionary and daring new innovations in the operation of small arms.
>bullpup thread
>barely any FAMASes
>on fucking Jow Forums
what is going on
Butthurt.