This is why you don't trust a redneck with a shop full of Harbor Freight Tools who calls himself a gunsmith, apparently he is holding the weapon hostage until paid in full and he has threatend to call ATF and keep the weapon as payment.
This is all over a website dedicated to the AR15 and a NFA FB page.
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Unless it's some supergucci gun, leave it and threaten to also call police/ATF over a company trying to literally extort you.
Lol wut?
this isn't your blog. Take it to court, the cops aren't going to intervene in a civil dispute
What in the goddamn fuck?
Please tell me the guy gave you a quote?
Somethings fishy.
It sounds like he fabricated a brand new barrel completely from scrap.
What a tard
> All over the internet now
Fucking boomers sinking their own businesses because they cannot keep up.
> not criminal
How's that work if I put my car in the shop and they jack the price up $5000 or they keep my property? Pretty sure that's criminal fraud.
This but also why the fuck did he fire 1,000 rounds out of your gun? Why are you dumb enough to pay for someone's range day with your gun?
The fuck is the barrel made out of that it cost 5k to make? Unobtanium?
There's no fucking way someone put a 5000 dollar barrel on an AR.... I could see a really slick are coming in around 5000 when it's all said and done.
.... Unless of course they're doing something funky and trying to keep it on the down low, eg porting to integrally supress., And then that's all extra money to cover the risk.
Also 400 for ammo to test the gun? Wtf?
>OVER 9000 dollars to fix a gun
wewlad.
unless you signed a contract that said you agree to this fucking outrageous pricepoint (which if you did, you're a dumb fuck and deserve to lose your shit) you can take the guy to court over it. Get a lawyer. Good ones will give you a free consultation and give you a pricepoint for their services. Steer clear of anything that charges upfront and contingency fees. They will probably ask for 33% of the recovery and that's it.
I think it was an M2 Browning.
How about posting the gun you fucking nigger.
Civil would be interpersonal disputes like getting your shit back from a scumbag like this guy, criminal is when the state is charging someone for a crime, which is completely different
The owner bought the barrel and wanted it installed. No, the machinist did not make the barrel, his job was just to change it.
nigga how can he post the fun if it's being held hostage
>1000 rounds of 50bmg
>$400
>1000 round test fire
idonteven
>steer clear of lawyers who don't require some form of ensuring they actually get paid
good luck, you may find someone who will accept a partial retainer or a first year attorney desperate for clients willing to take it on a graduated payment plan that would take over a year to pay off.
ARFCOM shills are tranny fuckers and boomer pedophiles
Well, this idiot just ended his own business.
Get a lawyer, now. 10,000 is ridiculous.
>Just got off the phone with the Neff Arms. Here is his side of the story:
>The customer had an MP5 and an MG40 that needed work, the smith got the MP5 done no problem, but the MG40 was stuck in his shop for almost half a year.
>There was somehow a .30-06 casing stuck in the barrel which required a lathe to be removed because nothing else would work. The customer also demanded a T H I C C custom barrel that could withstand tons of consistent shooting, which had to be machined from scratch. When the barrel was done, the customer brought him a handguard which wouldn't fit the new barrel, so it had to be re-machined.
>The 1000 rounds used to test it were a result of months of taking the gun apart, working on it, rebuilding it, and test firing. He didn't do it in a short period at all.
>Once he finally finished it, the customer was unhappy with the bill, so the smith cut off $2000 (it was originally $11,000) and didn't charge for the MP5.
>All in all, he claims that machining the barrel took 50 hours and getting everything to work took 40 hours. At $100/hour, which is his already known rate, that works out to $9000. I'm no gunsmith so I can't tell if 90 hours in a gun is a lot.”
Yeah, I get that. I'm asking how jacking up prices with the threat of withholding property is not criminal fraud, as in fradulent medical or debt billing.
lawyers make money on the recovery, but you're right. For small shit like this OP might be out of luck depending on how gucci his gun is because lawyers will probably want to charge upfront for something this small. If OP wants to though, he can just pay the lawyers a small fee to send the other guy a scary letter and then he'll probably fuck off and send the rifle back.
Hahahaha wow you fucked over by a boomer lol.
A maximum labor/cost was never stipulated
So your asshole got thoroughly stimulated
Time to tap into your 401/k/
Oh good, now Neff Arms gets to sue his former customer for libel. Why are so many people dishonest? I am not memeing. This is the actual reason we cannot have nice things.
Source? I want to believe.
facebook
it's the best I can find
>400 bucks for 1000 rounds of 30-06
calling bullshit, it costs at least 50% more than that
Nah, just checked. $.40 per round for a 500 round case of MFS 168gr spitzer.
Yeah, Neff gave him a deal
Nowhere dis OP mention this was work for a fuckin mg40
What a fucking faggot.
Now the bill doesnt seem so entirely unreasonable. Big work for big guns is not cheap.
This. Guy is acting like this was all for some super neato AR-15 custom job. You fuck your MG-40 barrel and want a totally new one made custom its going to cost you a lot of money.
It's a fucking AR-15. The barrel is not hard to swap.
If that's the case then, the price makes sense. Though the true story usually lies somewhere in between the two stories.
> That W
Unless the white strings are somehow more transparent than the red logo, or they "wrap" light more or
whatever quantum shit photons do as a wave around corners, that shouldn't happen. Right?
#trippy
Ok, I stand corrected after more information
hownew.ru
>Try to find sympathy on the Internet
>The Internet finds out you’re a piece of shit
Love stories with a happy ending
FUCKING WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT YOU retard
Dude Ive been laughing uncontrollably at that fucking image for about 3 days now. i have no idea how the fuck that would be possible. Maybe the plastic is darker, preventing more light going through?
It's shopped.
see
Quit being a nigger.
shop of this
Lol thanks dudes. The shopped one made me laugh for days.
>Apparently people are too stupid these days to ask for a quotation before committing to a repair
Why are these two different, though?
got a citation on holding the gun hostage and the gunsmith keeping the gun if you dont pay?
>$100/hour
This guys must be some kind of wizard to charge rates like that.
That's standard if not low for 1st world, buddy.
>reading comprehension
It's per hour
> mg40
Do you need specific licenses in order to take hold of and service a fully auto gun?
it says hes a class 3 ffl holder on ops picture.
I know you 3rd world inbred.
What the hell is an MG40?
The fuck is an MG40?
This man knows
Isn't that type of work required to give a quote? And then not allowed to charge more the like 10% past that quote?
It's basically a Colt made browning 1919 commercial variant.
Oh this makes total sense then.
Show me the Virginia law that says that.
Guy definitely should have gotten a quote on a job like that no doubt
colt licensed version of the browning 1919
So this may help: in order to win a criminal case, the state needs the proof of "beyond reasonable doubt".
For civil cases, outcomes are based on "preponderance of evidence".
If you want to lose the case and never get your money back, try to go for criminal charges. If you want a chance of recovering your asset as well as not having to pay this asshole, go with civil court.
Why not both. I don't have to pay the DA's office myself. You already help me with that.
>100 dollars a hour.
Boomers alow people like this to stay in business.
>50+ hours of machining
What in all shit?
>why shit gatta cost moniey
>why shit gatta take time
The weapon is an ANM2 .30, which is the aircraft variant of the Browning M1919A4
Honestly, that's an average price for many places; I'm assuming a lot has to do with additional regulations from alphabet agencies. But if you think you can do better, create your own shop and charge a lower rate.
Dude 100 a hour for gunsmithing is bullshit an the fact the market supports it is retared. Its like 3000 to get a tooth pulled. It doesn’t actually cost anywhere near 3000 to pull a tooth is costs probably like 50. So he could charge 500 and make a huge profit but it wouldn’t be Doctor money nugga!!!! This dude owns his own practice and has employees an insurance and doesn’t have a line out the door to pull teeth so hes like
>shiiiiiiit illl charge dem mutha fuckas 3000 dollars
Now he only needs one dude to come in inorder to keep the doors open for three days. And because MOST people have insurance 80bucks for asprin in the ER is somehow ok?
100% automation will be dope and all the rich fags will be brought to heel.
Again 3rd world. $100 is average to low for 1st world. Your shithole doesn't value time like America.
If it's really an ANM2 version then that would explain why the owner wanted a custom much thicker barrel and why it was difficult to tune since it runs at like 1200 rounds/min.
Lmao he thinks 100k can get you a nice lambo.
Skilled laborers could be doing something else for their time, you want them to work on your shit, you pay what they charge. Otherwise do it yourself. Oh wait, you cant.
>50 dollars to check headspace
>people are stupid enough to pay for this
My only dissapointment is not hoping on the bandwagon my self.
Then again, that's just what the source I saw the story from first is claiming (and it's their picture) Not sure on the veracity.
>Its like 3000 to get a tooth pulled
animated-teeth.com
dayodental.com
If you're trying to make a point, being that hyperbolic won't help you. But to play the devil's advocate, the cost of equipment, anesthesia, malpractice insurance/lawsuits, staff, etc... all have to be paid for one way or another.
>tfw your jew lawyer takes your case and gets you gun back but charges even more than the gunsmith
>devilish.jpg
>machineing of barrel
>50+ hours
wow, they're really taking you for a fucking ride
Why the fuck would you take a fully automatic machine gun worth that kind of money to some rando bubba gunsmith?
even 50 fucking hours of machine time if the retard is gun drilling a round bar and rifling it is too much
sue that man!
>Implying its a common forearm
>redneck rich retard customer sticks .30-06 in an 8mm mauser barrel
>has the gall to complain when the fix is a pain in the ass
He probably had the whole thing converted to .30-06 too and conveniently forgot to mention it
>implying it's a common Firearm
>remove stuck shell casing for 250 dorra
why.
Well a quotes a quote. A legally binding agreement of price for the work.
Now if OP only got an estimate. . .
>being dumb enough to run .30-06 in your rare 8mm mauser machine gun
Honestly should have charged him $500
Because machine gun actions with the wrong kind of ammunition stuck inside them are hard to clear
50 man hours of machine time is fucking insane though, he probably charged him for test fitting as machine time
my guy has a machine that locks your gun down and forces grease into the barrel and pops out cases.
Sounds expensive.
>cleaning
You guys realize you can just buy this "receipt" paper at walmart and write whatever you want on it.
OP is probably full of shit, but I was happy to give the thread most of the day before bursting your bubbles.
Not going to side with either party in this but just want to remind people that your not paying a guy solely for the time he spends on what he's working on. Your mostly paying for experience and if applicable schooling the had to get said experience. Skilled labor isn't cheap.
>It doesn’t actually cost anywhere near 3000 to pull a tooth is costs probably like 50
Show your math, you fucking retard.
this is him.
Doesn't matter. 50 hours of machining time is like...10 times the amount of machine time it takes to produce your average firearm.
>he thinks that he's the first person to think it might be fake
>he thinks that he can "burst everyone's bubbles"
>he thinks people care about his post