Tactical archery for home defense?
never
he uses an incredibly underpowered bow to pull off those shots, his arrows would barely jab a guy at point blank. Real war bows had a pull weight so strong you'd need years before being strong enough to mantain it drawn for long enough to aim let alone to hit a fast target. And forget about quick follow up shots.
get a spear and poke the nigger to death like his grand grand grand parents used to.
Can't deny he is insanely skilled though
>Be Archer autist
>Hear something break in my kitchen in the middle of the night
>Pull out my trusty 130lb longbow always safely next to my bed
>Go to get a couple of my home made perfect arrows
>Shit I tipped over my quiver, spilling arrows all over the fucking floor under my bed
>Intruder must have hear the echoing clatter of my incompetence
>Scrounge up two arrows from under the bed
>This ought to be enough
>String one and pull back, making my way out the bedroom door, slicing the pie
>Elbow bumps into the doorframe hitting my funny bone, causing me to let go
>Arrow goes flying into my crocheting recliner in the living room
>Damn I love, that recliner. Now it looks like just another one of my hay bales out in the backyard my neighbor keeps complaining about
>Quickly switch to my second arrow while I regaing the feeling in my left arm
>Walk into the kitchen
>See an open window and a broken bowl on the floor. There's a light on in the bathroom
>Can't get through the tight hallway turn with the bow pulled.
>Decide to go through and notch and draw fast if someone is their
>Open the door
>Before I can notch my bow. The intruder rushes out and stabs me
>Bleed to death as I watch the intruder steal everything but my most valuable possession. My $1700 custom bow
>he uses an incredibly underpowered bow to pull off those shots
This is true in a historical sense but those would definitely be sufficient to seriously injure someone, they wouldn't just "jab a guy." If you were this dork with his point shooting autism this would be a pretty reasonable method of home defense.
>it's another "nobows faggot links this cunt again" episode
I can't deny cringing so hard at his autism that I nearly turned inside out
ping pong players can be extremely skilled, too. Just not lethal.
> I'm not jelly, reeeeee
If he hit someone in the face or throat it'll do some serious damage, but that's assuming he can actually aim accurately on the fly and he hasn't just been rehearsing shots at known distances for his video.
Otherwise, I doubt the bow has enough poundage to piece Tyrone's finest hoodie.
I think figure skaters are skilled but I'm not jealous of them either.
If he can do his tricks with at least a 40# recurve, then I'll be impressed
That guy fucks
>the ancient technique is just holding arrows in your hands
???
Am I missing something here, is that the ancient technique?
I think you (and most people, really) underestimate how much an arrow can injure person even at a low draw weight. I'd say he's probably shooting around 30 pounds and while that's definitely not a gun it would ruin your day really fucking quick.
Point shooting just seems to be one of those abilities you either have or you don't, so he could probably do some pretty neat tricks with a handgun too, and probably look just as dorky doing it.
It's really hard.
Autism
pretty sure the ancient technique is holding the arrows in a waist quiver as shown in just about every depiction on ancient artwork. If they were held in the hand at all it was the bow hand vertically, and because for some reason a quiver was available or practical at that moment
I had to try and see if i could go around corners with a longbow, it doesn't seem so hard to me. My bow is 6 feet and I could still enter my bathroom with it both notched and drawn.
ayyy i am bored.
You hold the arrows in the shooting hand, so you can shoot faster, you dingus.
Okay so at least one instant proves me wrong, but also as you can see its not being held in some point shooting manner, he's just holding them in his hand in reserve, not ready to go like point shooting guy.
Maybe there is a market for room clearing bow instructors
youtube.com
"Miss once and you die - tactical bow tips"
Not like shown in the video though. And I'd still assume that was only used for hunting, any combat situation I'd rather have a quiver. You can never carry enough arrows (rounds).
The "ancient technique" is in his point shooting ability. I don't know if you have any archery experience, but most people use a consistent point of draw on their face (like a cheek weld) in order to be accurate. This dude can pick up and arrow and just sort of fling it out of the bow at a target from any position or draw style just like he's throwing a ball and make hits doing so, which is why he can keep the arrows in his shooting hand, because he doesn't use the same consistent draw method everyone else does. Which is really extremely impressive, but more down to his particular brand of autism than something you could just pick up and learn.
Archers had people behind them ready to bring more arrows in bundles. The English archers at Agincourt didn't bring hundreds of arrows in a quiver on the battlefield. As a matter of fact, I don't know if they had quivers at all. They had arrow-bags though.
Next time don't fight it and turn inside out
That way you'll be dead and everyone will be happy.
You go down range and let him shoot at you then, you'll be perfectly safe. Report back with results.
Negative, I must remain operational until my primary objective is complete
I like his timed long shots where all the arrows fly at different trajectories but land at the same time.
Nothing personnel kiddo
Ban tactical assault bows.
lars andersen is a joke
ok
Longbows are shit for home defense.
I use a short Chinese recurve bow with 80 lbs and shit is maneuverable and lightweight as fuck.
One autismal excercise I often do is to train tactical cover shooting with that bow around corners, doorframe, quick aim etc.
Cant do that with a longbow.
Bow is kinda like the one in pic
aesthetic
I still want a Qing-styled bow. I love those heavy Siyahs.
And those fucking heavy arrows...
>Longbows are shit for home defense.
*blocks you path*
>I doubt the bow has enough poundage to piece Tyrone's finest hoodie.
Did you miss the part of his video where he put arrows through maille? What, you think polyester is stronger than steel?
>Did you miss the part of his video where he put arrows through maille?
Butted mail is incredibly weak.
Archery is actually different from guns. Longbows and Recurves are more about instinctive shooting and require a lot of training to get consistent shots. And shooting a bow on the move is a completely different skill on its own.
If you wanted something that you could use right now and don't need a lot of training for, a compound crossbow and a good machete would fill that niche rather well.
Medieval researcher here. I have loosed bodkin tipped war arrows from a 85lb bow at riveted mail lain over wadded cloth. At a range of 30 yards or less, the arrows went straight through every time. The arrow point only has to pop open a single ring to get through, though I doubt many burglars wear full hooded mail when breaking and entering, as it isnt very stealthy. To be sure though, If you do have a low power bow for home defence, I suggest you aquire a blunt weapon as well, in case your burglar is 'cap-a-pie'. A warhammer or mace should do, as mail is crap against blunt trauma.
If you are using a bow for home defence, don't forget to do a little bit of home improvement first.
>using a longbow and not a recurve
>implying a 35lb bow can't easily kill a human
Your post wasn't even funny. 3/10, you tried.
I have a 35 pound longbow, I will get a stronger recurve next. I am pretty confident this could kill someone at a fair distance. Certainly someone in my yard.
Weren’t bodkin tips designed to work with heavy bows to increase the chance of getting through riveted mail?
The bodkin was probably designed mostly to be cheap. Use a minimum of metal per arrow, and they were also usually just soft and cheap iron, not the hard but expensive steel you'd want to punch through armour. When a single battle can use up hundreds of thousands of arrow, the per unit cost becomes very important. Now the bodkin shape is good against mail anyway, but it's also quit crap against gambesons and the like. Just like with a modern kevlar vest, you want a sharp edge to cut through those.
Let me see you running at home with that. Your bow will bump into your roof or door-frame.
Hell, you cant even use them properly in a forest.
It only bumps into things a little bit.
Weaker than a motherfucking hoodie?
Anti-bow manlets will claim it takes at least a 5.56 to penetrate a hoodie.
if he's so good why isn't he in the olympics?
S U M M E R
he kind of looks like a cheaper version of ben shapiro
well atleast you didn't get raped or had to watch a loved on get raped
isn't this dumb what if some dudes waiting by another door and as he checks one door shoots his ass
>arrow out of 35lb bow for home defence
Let me break this down for you. As a bow hunter, depending on a number of factors a deer can run from 25 yards to hundreds after being shot. The deer might not even die at all. Factoring you get a good lung shot (this isn't your dad's shed we're shooting at. It's dark, and you don't know exactly where the home intruder is) kinetic energy is a massive factor in home defence. Shoot a deer, it has a millisecond shock, adrenalin kicks in and it's gone. This home intruder probably already has adrenaline, that's the "rush". If I have a pistol and you shoot me in a chest with a 35 lb (not even enough to legally fire at a deer) bow, I'm going to unload into you. Maybe I die, but you're certainly dead.
>no kinetic energy
>no insta killability
>clear a door way?
If I anticipate you, I'm at the doorway I hear you coming from. I wonder what I'll do if I see 2 inches of your arrow round the corner before I see you. Probably fire right? Even through the wall. My kinetic energy is going to fuck up your pretty hop skip and shoot precision.
>35 lbs could kill someone!
So can a fucking lawn dart.
I don't think anyone thought that it was ideal, they were just arguing against the idiot saying "hurr, it wouldn't even break the skin at that draw weight!" It's the same as people who spout memes about "if you shot them with a .22LR they'd be really mad about it when they found out." A 35 pound bow is easily lethal, just not quickly or reliably enough to be practical (or humane, in a hunting sense.)
Lars Anderson is a grade A bullshitter.
Stop.
Also, keep in mind that some of his """citations""" are from his own books. There's something of a conflict of interest.
Is this the "Rifles and shotguns are too long for home defense" meme taken to the next level?
I didn't realize there was an Olympic trick archery event. I'll have to tune in when they do Men's Olympic Parkour Archery Trap and Skeet.
Not trick archery but the normal archery
Do you see this nigga doing normal archery? Follow the conversation.
This is just trick shots LARPing as tacticool bullshit
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Dumb woman who ignores the obvious facts. She also lies as he demonstrates in a response video. she claims "the books doesn't talk about how to do it" but it does, on the same page just a little further up.
His only trick is accuracy. Lars is hilariously much faster, and able to do it while moving.
>mantain it drawn for long enough to aim
Medieval bows don't have sights. You draw and loose and let instinct and experience do the job.
and yet she makes less bullshit claims then Lars
also
>hurr womanz
>literally lies and misrepresents her source
>doesn't make bullshit claims
I don't give a shit if she is a woman, that's stupid either way.
the way he poses after his last shots really annoys me.
However, despite being underpowered, if the arrows were super sharp it would still really hurt I'll bet if he hit you. And if he was trying kill someone I imagine the delay to add some power with a heavier draw wouldn't be that much.
Of course this is all irrelevant in the modern age, he's just larping, but maybe post apocalypse after the last round of surplus has been dug up and fired, maybe then his ideas have a hint of utility. Definitely not home defense. Get a good trebuchet for that.
reading isn't your strong point, is it?
>not shooting him with your longbow from a window as he flees your house
>incredibly underpowered bow
... yet it still penetrates armor.
Stay salty, loser.
>Anderson makes claims
>gets btfo
>"I just oversimplyfied it"
Anderson talks about the book 'Arabic archery' and literally says: "We don't have similar books from other cultures." That is a lie. 'Toxophilus' by Roger Ascham is a good example for other historical accounts and expertise on bows.
Nice damagecontrol by Anderson only rivaled by vatniks. He IS a good trickshooter, but he doesn't know shit about history.
He killed 3 bull elephants and hunted bison on horse back with his bow, dummy.
>Toxophilus
"Your arrow shafts should be straight, and if they are so small they shatter when you shoot them, they are bad."
25 pages of deep insight into archery.
>get a spear and poke the nigger to death like his grand grand grand parents used to.
This.
amazon.com
Didn't watch, but you'd probably need a really heavy draw weight cuz I don't see having to do a pull draw as something you can afford
>"We don't have similar books from other cultures." That is a lie.
He's saying that we don't have similar books from particular cultures, not that literally no other books on historical archery exist. Which is true, a large amount of historical archery is complete guesswork.
Honestly I think most of the problems with Andersen come from whoever is producing his videos, because all the stuff he says in the video where he himself speaks is pretty reasonable.
afaik he stated that he uses a 60lbs bow, and not a 120lbs english longbow, and these require alot of strength to pull and are meant for longer ranges and not something like home defense dickass
>tacticool spear
united cutlery is good, but this one has too many rivets and idk about broadheaded spears, I'd prefer something like this
amazon.com
>inb4 screwed spear
that's not a problem as long as you stab and only stab, also that way you have multiple lengths at your disposal and can use different lengths for homo defense and other things like innawoods
Dude can shoot, I'll admit. But holy Fuck is he autistic.
this guy should invest in some safety glasses.
Everyone saying
>he's a great shoot
That's like saying dude perfect on youtube are great at basketball. It's just autistic controlled two repetitions.
Bows are a practical for self defe-
You guys realize compound bows completely BTFO all other bows.
lol, never seen that one before.
>use a bow, like your ancestors did, not a gun like a pussy
You're posting this weak nigger again?
>like your ancestors
My ancestors have been using firearms for centuries. Stop huffing gas, tonto.
I wouldn't want to be attacked with a staple gun either, but it doesn't mean I'd use one for self defense.
Ordinarily and in almost all respects, yes, but not for quick successive shots and not for instinctive shooting. Danish autism man could not do his magic tricks quite so well with a compound bow.
9mm is bad, at least .40 to get through a hoodie. REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>if you shot them with a .22LR they'd be really mad about it when they found out.
You're thinking of .25acp. .22LR is the one that skims along bones until it reaches your skull, then bounces around in your cranium making a brain milkshake.
did he die?
He must have those weird English arms. This guy is a professional OP, and you'd have to practice for a literal decade to get somewhere close to his level. A gun is easier.
there is no scientific proof of this, if compound bows were so effective, why weren't they invented thousands of years ago?
Mongol short bows were 20-30 lbs
same with chinese.
Theres no such things as a REAL WAR BOW.
Wooden bows are Wood.
They don't have magic War blessings by the golden emprah
All bows are weapons.
You are a pretentious tard