Minnesota

>when I lived in California I had more access to ranges, good legit quality ranges than this fucking pheasant hunting/deer hunting fudd state.
This but I live in texas. No /out/ activities, no mountains, no fun. Can finally own guns but can't find anything cool in any of the shops in town. If the off chance something cool rolls into a shop it's extremely overpriced. Like 1200 slant cut Mak 90's or FEG hi powers for 750.

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I know what BLM land is. For me to go the national forest its almost a 3 hour drive north of the twin cities.

Everyone else is clays, trap and skeet.

went to a range this morning. Felt like I was interrupting the 5 locals who just sat around jaw-jacking after shooting their Nine-teen eluvuns!!

Dude, it was like that when I lived in El Paso. I thought, "Cool! guns and more guns!"

Good lucking finding some place to shoot! Every range was catered to the "Chad and Stacy Totally cool Merica gun getaway weekend!" experience. No serious shooters, just couples trying to impress each other and the occasional redneck who is going to blow $500 renting stupid shit because "its muh birthday!"
And everything was expensive as fuck!

That picture is a fucking disgusting facsimile of the major.

Get and stay got.

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What kind of hardware you trying to find in the stores? I can possibly help.

Yoh gotta drive fucking far for that, not realistic.

Delet this

Funny part is, MN is one of the thinner states in the US. You're just spoiled by retarded Cali beach culture.

That was your first mistake. We do have quality ranges in the twin cities, but they're all member only ranges, which is gay...kinda just leave you with Bill's, which one is awful and full of nigs, the one in circle pines is ok..50 yards only though.

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Then go back.
Please.

>St. Petersburg Florida
>exact same fucking situation

I fucking hate all of you urban niggers. I just want to shoot a mile off of my back porch without an issue and instead I have to deal with this fucking bull shit the entire time.

I "WAS" accustomed to shooting out to 800 in the desert. Now I'm stuck shooting out to 50 yards on a line waiting for idiots trying to impress their girlfriends and fudds. All of which don't believe in changing the target. Just shoot until the target looks like swiss cheese and you have no idea where your last 30 bullets landed.

Luckily there are no "shoota's wit dem beams yo!" in mankato. A bunch of somalias though but they seem to be normal 'tuck your shirt in your pants, don't be a dueche" black people.

nigga I would if I could! Life ain't just about Jow Forums, kinda got a job dick cheese!

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You are a dumb bigger of astounding proportions. You live in a state with like 1 person for every 20 square miles and you cant find some land?

Stay out of Nevada. Were full.

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We just don't have the stupid amount of space here for proper ranges, and because of that, few people know what the fuck they're doing with guns, which then lowers the demand for a proper fucking range. I get that and those turbo casuals piss me off too. Best thing to do is befriend someone who has land or their family does, which is common here.

Btw, everyone outside the twin cities is fat for the most part. Hot rural chicks here are always way hotter than the hot city chicks here, but they age worse because all they do in the sticks is get plastered all the time.

This ain't nevada dick cheese. Nevada has almost 90% BLM land. When you hit the midwest and east, that land was claimed a LONG TIME ago. It is all privately owned land.

Go to google maps and tell me how many national forest there are in MN? Go ahead....Not parks, FOREST!

The majority of the land you are thinking of is flat farm land. You think your just going to ride up to someone personal farm land and start shooting?

Are you that dense?

Have you even lived in another state?

>The women here are fat as fuck and ugly

Go back to the land of eating disorders and plastic surgery, please.

>Every range is a fudd range

Keeps the dipshits to a minimum. Every rule you dislike on a range is there because of a dumbass.

Member only ranges have even fewer dumbasses.

But if you're in Mankato, Ahlman's isn't too far away.

Not that simple here Mr desert dweller.

Thanks for the tip, I've noticed the rural chicks are good lucking but the state hobby seems to be getting tore up. I can only imagine in the winter, its all anybody does.

God damn this shit is going to suck!

>state hobby seems to be getting tore up
That's everywhere in the Midwest, not just here. You can thank the fucking endless krauts that came here for that.

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>shadman

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Sadly you kinda need to know people in MN. I know a couple ranges on the east side of the state. But they all seem to require membership. But your in one of the smaller cities so it should be easy to meet people who shoot,or own land. Be friend ly deffinatly don't lead with hello, I like guns, please let me shoot them on your property.

Even some of the liberals like guns in Minnesota, not all of em sadly but the guy who got me into guns was a liberal too bad he went off the deep end, and got out of guns again.

>when I lived in California I had more access to ranges, good legit quality ranges than this fucking pheasant hunting/deer hunting fudd state
it is the conundrum of our time

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Prehaps you could try and befriend someone with farm ground rather than whining about shit. I live in South Dakota and have a one dollar, 99 year lease on ground that let's me shoot out to 800 yards. Because I asked around and acted friendly.

I moved to Texas from Missouri and was blown away by how purple this states gun laws and culture are. Honestly with demographics going the way they are i could see cali level gun control within 20 years

completely unrelated...or some related. I swear firearms proficiency in this country is turning into a joke.

CMP is now a "collector organization". The original intent was to make sure citizens knew how to shoot so if we enact selective service, we had a populace that could defend the nation. Then the CMP raised the price of 1911 arbitraily and requires "two background" checks for a beat to shit 1911 that was used by filipino tax collectors to murder farms.

Then we have gun ranges that cater to 3-gun events of IDPA where dentist engage targets at a whopping 15 yards or 50 yards!! *gasp* with Gucci gear holsters and rifles. People used to practice engaging targets at 500 meters with IRON sights. Hell, marine corp qualification on a known distance range is 600 meters but every tacti-cool fagget thinks "running and gunning" is the end all be all of tactical shooting

Then every range has some gay-ass experience package. "Full auto birthday blast!" "Bachelor Party Special! 10 rounds of .50 in a full auto M2 for only $499!!!!" or some other stupid shit!

I'm fucking sick of it!

What happened to NRA bullseye competitions? One handed targets at 50 yards. I used to do those but now they are all being replaced by "never served" dirt bags with guts winding themselves after running 7 yards and engaging targets like they are in John Wick 8, the Final Wickening!

WHAT THE FUCK

>Stay out of Nevada. Were cucked.

fixed that for you. remember who you are dickweed. the state of harry reid and 49% illegal mexicans and growing. you are california 2.0. your transformation will be complete in 4 years

congrats on your hook-up and cheap land bro! Hope you pass a kidney stone the next time you piss and it triggers a heart attack and you die.

Seriously! I'm asking questions about the area and your solution is "stop being poor!" "stop not knowing anyone in a place you just fucking moved too!"

God, I hope to choke on the next cock you suck

Anywhere to do 3 gun in the Rochester area?

Gun proficiency here is a fucking joke, I agree. That's part of the price we pay for the second amendment though, is that idiots can have guns too.

That's the thing, its 99.9% idiots!

99.9% of gun owners buy a gun because it got a good review in some stupid magazine or youtube video even though the manufacturer paid for it. Remington 870 Police? "Na son! that shit is expensive! I'm getting a KSG or a remington 870 express."

That is the mentality. Then they take their gun out TWICE a year if that! Summer and maybe around Christmas. They might practice more frequently if a black guy got shot a gorillian times and they think their neighborhood is about to turn into South Africa "any minute now!" as their fat ass stocks up on Costco emergency preparedness buckets.

Damn near everyone I met who actually was proficient in understanding the capabilities and limitations of small arms was military. Not police, military.

Everyone is just larping at the range and I hate to say it but the chance of them using their firearm as it was intended is exactly 0% but the chance of them blowing away their wife/girlfriend after she got BLACKED during girls night out is pretty fucking high!

Mayo Clinic

I havent had to much issue with Bills. But I wont disagree with your statement about them.

>understanding the capabilities and limitations of small arms was military
My experience is the opposite, with milfags being just as stupid about guns as normies, but they're way more confident in how right they think they are.

Yeah, I've got a good job right now and once I'm out of my probationary period I'll have the opportunity to move to any state where we work. I'd prefer Alaska or Wyoming but we have nothing there, so thinking Idaho or Montana.
My second biggest hobbies after guns are /o/ and /out/ and here there's nothing for me. I'm losing my mind.

>marine corp
>one handed targets
>taking riot/combat shotguns seriously
>Jow Forumsbait
You aren't a very credible authority on firearm proficiency

which minnesota sports teams wont make the second round of the playoffs this year?

>all of em

The Robinsdale one is fucking gay and awful, and the clientele even worse. Circle Pines is decent, it's where I go until I figure out how to become part of a member's only range...problem with those is you need a fucking current member sponsor to get in.

Eat shit retard. I literally asked a local farmers if he had any 'junk' ground I could shoot on and viola! Turns out not being an insufferable dipshit pays off.

So pull the stick out your ass and ask around, try and make friends with locals, and don't be a toolbox so maybe people don't blow you off. You'd be surprised how many people have ranges or access to shooting areas that aren't publicly accessible.

I want Charli to dress up as the major and have fun sexy time.

As someone who served, it sickens me when people say "never served" like an insult. While I agree with most of your post, that one part invalidated your whole Damned opinion. I've seen more fuck heads from the Army alone that still can't grasp basic gun safety like trigger discipline because "muh military training" somehow makes them immune to it.

I don't begrudge people wanting to shoot the way they want to shoot. If I don't like it (I'm more a precision pistol comp, high power and silhouette comp guy, myself) I don't have to do it. As long as they are being safe, I simply don't care.

Inb4 "hurr Durr where does everyone else shoot??"
Buy land. Can't afford to buy outright? Rent a cheapo worthless pasture for a few hundred a year and make your own backstop. It's not fucking hard or expensive. If you don't own the range or pay for a membership, don't bitch about it's use.

Tlr:Dr you're the real life version of going into a thread just to bitch about said thread

Off topic, but growing up in Orange County, California, I think I've taken the sheer amount of hot girls around for granted. It also doesn't help that I went to Arizona State for college as well.

My point is that a girl who is a 7/10 in California is easily a 10/10 in the midwest (not including Chicago), by virtue of not being fat. A lot of cute girls from the midwest, who were used to being the hottest girl in their city/town comes to Hollywood to be an actress, only to find that she isn't anything special at all. A lot of these girls who fail to break into Hollywood end up as escorts in Vegas. The Thursday night flight from Burbank to Vegas is where you can easily find these failed actresses. I was visiting one of my distant cousins in Nebraska, and he said that Sara Underwood was his idea of a 10/10. She's super hot, yes, but pretty unremarkable especially compared to some of the girls I can find walking around Newport or Laguna beach. I can go down to the ASU campus in Tempe when school is in session, and easily find 20+ girls who are just as attractive.

As a servicefag, I can confirm this.

Suck your mom's dick you trans-fag!

You walked up to a farmer and a got a place to shoot. Congratulations. I recently got a great deal on 3 East German makarov but I'm not rubbing it in the face of some guy who overpaid for one on aimsurplus.

I hope your wife dies of breast cancer and your children develop severe autism

Women were once our concern too before we became conscious and were charged with preserving what they could not and would not

you should have moved to wisconsin you stupid kike faggot

wow post your i'd. i dont belive your really a minnesotan.

I have no idea what branch or MOS you guys served in but even a drunk mortar man has more of a fundamental understanding of the capabilities and limitations of small arms then a civilian or cop. Maybe your referring to Reservist/National Guard who play dress up once a month, get deployed, get blown the fuck up (literally) then jerk-off to emotional tributes to all their friends who died because of their own gross incompetence. Looking at you Oregon National Guard! I've seen some SHIT with some guard units that blew me away.

Your run of the mill retard in the army doesn't think a 5.56 is going to literally "blow someone away" or that an "rifle" is the last step against tyranny. No, an anti-tank missile, a fleet of UAVs is the poor man's real last ditch fight against tyranny. Condor tactical gear, a few high speed classes from your totally-not-gay man crush where you practice shooting a 1000 rounds in a day at a target a whopping 25 meters away from you ain't preparing you for shit. This is what civilians gobble up like its gospel and if your not eating from the same shit trough of "tacticool tacitcs" your an idiot who will die.

nevermind the guy with 4 fucking deployments might know something, which is why he's alive.

But I'm done. Feel like I'm talking to college kids, high school kids and some Guard/Reservist E-4 who knows everything.

I hope you all develop prostrate cancer.

We don't have blm land you dumb boy we have state forest and wetland conversations

Wisco does have better gun laws. I lived in Osseo for a spell. It was nice.

That's nice and all, but I'm not good with girls anyways. Are they more vapid and/or self-centered too?

Hi RGVanon here, yeah we'll probably have Cali laws within that time but the Californians themselves are the reason it's purple here, fuckin' POS city Austin attracts those fucking roaches, can't drive around that city without terrible traffic and to make it worse over half of that traffic has California plates. Bordering the shitstain country that is Mexico doesn't help either, the only benefit I can think of from Mexico is that you can shoot practically anywhere as long as you yell Spanish cussing, cause than everybody thinks you're cartel and is too scared to tell you to fuck off.

Raid the armories/bases for the anti-tank and anti-air.
>fleet of UAVs
You're the one who sounds like a kid naive of the logistics

>an anti-tank missile, a fleet of UAVs is the poor man's real last ditch fight against tyranny.

Sure. ATGMs and UAVs are cheap. And the Iraqi and Afghan insurgencies withered quickly without them. Dumbass.

Not BLM you 'tard. state land.

This far east most public land isn't federally managed.

It really fucking sucks, but unless you don't own your own land, you can't really just fuck around inna woods shooting shit. Even if you did own land here, it has to be FAR from the Twin Cities area.

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>I hope you all develop prostrate cancer.

I chuckled. You should probably work on vocabulary more before ranting

Osseo Gun Club has a much better clientele and it's right up 81 from Bills.

The only redeeming quality is some average bass fishing

Texas trying to drain the tech sector out of Cal and into Texas. Guess what kind of people you'll get. In its drive to have a California economy, Texas is unwittingly inviting California politics. Monkey's paw, etc.

>Every range is a fudd range.

>Go back to those commiefornia ranges than fag. Most people in MN have actual acreage to go shoot away from city people......

This state is going to be reliably red soon though. Too many white kids got overexposed to diversity through the public schools shipping niggers out to suburban states.

Trump only lost by 1% and Minnesota nice is becoming less and less a thing as people become more willing to openly discuss politics.

We got this in the bag, unfortunately we still get IL niggers and spics and somalis and fudds locking ranges down to no-fun tier.

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>moving from one blue state to another blue state
You got what you deserved, retard.

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>Lives in New York
>Calls others cucks

kek'd a bit, not even gonna lie

In the real world that 15 to 50 yard 3-gun course is a lot likely to be useful than a 600 yard bullseye target.

He's actually some retarded Californian who moved to Minnesota. So it's unsurprising he's a total shit-inhaler, he probably acts like a gigantic cock to everyone he runs into in Mankato and gets treated accordingly. I imagine the first time winter rolls in and freezes everything over he'll get ass blasted and go home.

This

We have a lot of Cali frat types in St. Cloud but they aren't like our frat boys, they're scrawny and limp wristed and talk up California constantly.

FUCKING GO HOME they talk about gun rights and other shit but buckle and vote for the far left because "lol muh brown people". You guys are fucking cancer and look down your nose at everybody. They think they are incredibly enlightened when in reality they just want to appease the loudest people around them.

Most imaginary operators self defense engagement occurs 1k meters plus!

Yeah, I was a Navy SEAL and literally every engagement I fought in was a minimum of 500 meters. One of the guys on my crew actually let a hajji get within 300 meters by accident before smoking him with his grandad's 1911 that he was carrying, we gave him shit for that for the rest of the time we were in country.

Move to Kentucky from Arizona.
Find local range.
"Oh we have a 200 yard range!"

You're used to shooting at 1000+

*okay then*..

You sound extremely poor. I'm from New York City, bought 120 acres of land in Upstate New York, where they hate us (they call us "Citiots") because they ain't us. Bought chainsaw, cut trees, rented bulldozer and backhoe, have buddy who uses that shit in City come up to clear 5 acres, took about a year to get it cleared and planted with grass seed. 100 yard range with 3 targets one target cleared to about 150 yards and built a few sheds. Next step is to start clearing a path to do up to 600 yards.
I shoot what I want, when I want. Nobody knows nothing, nobody sees nothing.

Wyoming.

Blm land everywhere. Everyone is packing. City has public indoor range, and public outdoor range.

Outdoor range.
>1000m
>300m
> Multiple pistol ranges
>Skeet, clay, pigeon ranges

Californian here. There is no conservative more conservative than a conservative Californian. You never see us because we stay here and fight for our rights. We don't run away and pretend to be Midwestern hicks like the one's you've met.

But in all honesty I do understand we're the minority.

>move to Arizona from California
>more beaners and even hotter weather

Ive been in mankato for 6 years, Vantage point range in kasota is alright, the female owner there is a cunt tho. Otherwise during the summer the Caribou hunting club in le Center is cheap and usually nobody is there.

Yea I don't mind Bill's so much aside from their dogshit pricing. I've practiced rapid fire plenty of times and they haven't said shit.

I do need to find an outdoor range though

I go to bills often and I'm in Cloud. I like that I can let loose with my binary trigger on weekends where there's other niggers, and niggers at heart, who are also senselessly mag dumping.

Went to college in Minnesota, never saw a more cucked group of conservatives, and I'm from fucking Oregon. The soi is strong out there, only they call it being "nice".

I did miss those hot Nordic bloggers though. Fine women and easy to pick up with T levels greater than zero, which is the running average out there.

It depends on who you talk to about what and where you are.

Twin Cities? No doubt, full of cucks. The problem is our white people have always been VERY successful and never really have to deal with non-whites unless it's in a service context like a waitress or something.

Things are changing though with diversity bombings out in suburban areas. Like Andover has some B A S E D zoning board members that got around our state's low income housing requirements (diversity bombs) by making like 4 old folks homes lol

TC's are requiring some suburban areas take in troublesome browns in the hope of osmosis working with good behavior but all it's doing is destroying leftists' will to defend them. I grew up in the North burbs and we had a bunch of niggers fighting each other like every other lunch, all from North Minneapolis or Spring Lake Park and we all knew that. We knew it was the niggers who were the problem very early on.

Minnesota is shifting fucking fast because they thought they could slip the browns by us like the rest of the country without realizing we were like 90% white before. Like Texas and Arizona and Dixie all had black people so a 10% increase was nothing but is doubling them for us, we noticed.

Go onto any regional facebook group and you can see the Overton Window shift around 2015-2017 depending on the city.

Reminds me of when I visited Mississippi from Texas.

Maybe you should go back where you came from and stop shitting up our state you coastie fuck.

You sound like a really unpleasant person, I'm not surprised nobody wants to help you.

Maybe don't judge the whole state based on the Twin Cities aka the New York of the Midwest.

Minnesotta is full of somalis and swedish cucks
I dont even consider it part of the midwest more like a really cold piece of cali

"I only visited St. Paul and Duluth" the post.

>he fell for the "MN liberty" meme.

We caught ourselves another one, boys!

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I just inquired about joining the Delano Sportsmans club. Seems like they have a decent facility, even if they rent it out to the high school too often.
Anyone have any experience with them?

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