I'm building an m4 style AR (Hiperfire 24c trigger...

Whatever Gaylord. I'm just letting him know the hurdle he has to face is BCT and what the conditions are like. He is setting himself up for failure by training like a larperator and not like a grunt. You all focus on fucking gear so much it's pathetic. Skills >>>>>>> gear all day every day.

IMHO the ACOG is a better combat optic for grunts than Eotech/Aimpoints. But if you're trying to lose weight you've got bigger fucking problems than shooting fatass. You're better off spending the money on a weight vest, gym membership and healthy food.

Ditch the hiperfire bullshit too. The milspec triggers you're gonna be shooting suck so don't spoil yourself beforehand.

OP here

I get needing to train with what I'll qualify with, so I'm building an A2

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Is this Lower probably good enough?

Used them all and seen them all used in different conditions. They all have different applications. If you're buying, try them all and figure out what you like best. I can say definitively don't buy aimpoint if you have astigmatism in your dominant firing eye. But that's about it.

Good lad. Now try to find an appleseed group in your area. They teach what is the closest to Army BRM you can get in the civilian world. Also look for NRA service rifle shoots. Try not to train on your own, you will just reinforce your own errors. Find a vet who can coach you at the very least. Study skill level 1 as much as possible. Soldiering is 10% shooting and 90% a bunch of other annoying shit that is just as important if you want to be successful, so don't stress over it too much. Good luck.

>They all have different applications.
Agreed. I own all three, but I think the magnification on the ACOG makes it the best bet for grunts who don't spend 90% of their time doing MOUT/CQB. OP should focus on getting fit instead of shooting though they're gonna teach him what they want him to know at boot camp.

I have a mini acog on my 3 gun rifle, .223 wylde 18 in. I think it's a good balance between close range and maximum effective. I can acquire targets quickly with both eyes open for max FOV at close range, while having the visual correction of the slight magnification for 400m shots. It's a good balance. It would be easy to build something more effective for specialized applications, but it's really good for a generalist rifle.

If you want to run a reflex optic you need a magnifier for shots past 200m, at which point you may as well just get some kind of acog or variable power optic.

Get a cheap single shot .22 with iron sights and unmodified trigger and practice on static bullseyes. Practicing the fundamentals is never overestimated. Once you're in the service and making some money, you can build a real gucci AR that isn't pretending to be an m4 and have a rifle you'll actually enjoy shooting. ACOG's are overrated, if you can sink money into an ACOG you can sink money into a better optic, even a 1-4× Trijicon scope or an EOTech + magnifier

>sleeping firewatch

Speaking of, we once had all our fuel filler caps stolen in the field by SF who snuck past our retarded sentries at night. They mailed them back to us two weeks later in an unmarked box, along with a picture of the squad butt naked and with pixelated faces

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Ive heard of MARSOC doing this kinda shit too so I would look for them when in the field.

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nah fuck these gearfaggots. learn on a shitty gun. it reinforces fundamentals much more. any retard can shoot offhand with a 3lb two stage trigger without proper fundamentals.

Best part was that our platoon sarge spent the better part of a week yelling at all the drivers on how the fuck they managed to lose each fucking cap. This was right after running through a fueling point, so all the vehicles had to stay parked untill we got the caps replaced

thank you. fuck these stupid gear obsessed faggots.

This. A not-so-great shooter can shoot good with quality gear, a great shooter can shoot good with not-so-quality gear. Get a PSA lower, an A2 stock, and a Stag Retro upper and call it a day.

Btw PSA is having a sale on a complete lower with an A2 stock, likewise with the Stag Retro upper. The "build" should come out to around $600.

I was going to go with a BCM upper, and I hate that Stag is using a 4140 barrel, but that price is attractive...

You really should just buy yourself an a2 from PSA and shoot that with basic 62 grain ball. I would never buy PSA for any other reason; you need to practice fundamentals on a shit rifle.

My bad, I was under the assumption it came with the BCG and charging handle. Still, it's only $700 and Stag has a good reputation, and the lower is practically irrelevant. I wouldn't worry about the barrel in your first AR.

OP here

I have a question about A2s. Can I put a surplus A2 stock on just about any AR lower, or does it need any special work that a regular m4 stock wouldn't?

It will fit on any lower but it requires a different buffer tube. So if you're converting from an m4 stock you'll need the rifle buffer tube, rifle buffer and spring.

This. So much this. I (successfully) qual'd on a piece of shit 16a2 with irons. That piece of shit had a ton of wiggle between the upper and lower and failed to fire and required manually cycling so much that I actually had to learn to be able to rack the charging handle and get a cheek weld again fast enough so that I could still catch the next pop-up target.

Then partway through cycle we turned all that shit in and got shitty M4s with an M68. They weighed less, were marginally less beat-to-shit, and I didn't have to make sure the thing actually cycled after every shot.

Thankfully, I had never shot anything seriously that didn't have a crappy trigger, so when I finally got on something with a decent trigger, it was fucking amazing.

Master fundamentals on shit gear, then upgrade to stuff that works for your style. Real high-speed operators have enough muscle memory that I watched an instructor rip an M68 off a dude's rifle, then drill five rounds through the same fucking hole of a 25m target without sights to prove it wasn't the gear's fault.

Sounds good. Right now I only have the lower with a hiperfire trigger and a vltor stock, so I'll just finish that build later.

For now, I'll use my old, loosely fitted single shot .22 while I piece together an m16 clone. Thanks for the advice.

By the way, how large are the pop up targets? I have about 250 yards of space to shoot in, and I'd like to practice in at least somewhat similar conditions as the test

You can get a separate upper and lower from PSA for like less than $400 total with this current sale