Have any of you had any experience with gas pistols?

Have any of you had any experience with gas pistols?
They're basically blank guns that fire pepper spray cartridges and they're used for self defense in germany.
They're not anywhere near as effective as real guns but i accidentally gassed myself with one of the pepper cartridges the other day and it was pretty unpleasant.
Also AMA about self defense in germany

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>gas gun

Of course it's german

If I was unfortunate to be a non free human being American and had to live without my right to bear arms I would still buy a black market handgun at least. It can't be that hard to buy a handgun on the black market in Germany.

You can have legal guns at home, i'll admit the process is a pain and you have to register everything with the government, but it's possible
Tah gas pistol is the only thing you can legally carry, though
But i agree with you. It just REALLY sucks getting caught and i don't want anything on my record for when i buy an actual gun

KEK

you can actually get an AR-15 with mags up to 40

>admit the process is a pain

actually not, all you need is a little money and a clean record. registering is also not that hard, just annoying. the most annoying thing about is that you have to buy some kind of card that allows you to own up to 5 rifles, for every 5 more you need to buy more cards.

CC is possible by the way, but only if you proof your life is threatened.

>only if you prove your life is threatened
That's not easy to do. For 90% of all people, the kleiner Waffenschein is as good as it gets

Keep in mind that the people who are likely to attack you are niggers and sandniggers, and they are infinitely more resistant to pain than the average white pussy.
The amount of OC in those cartridges is negligible. Get a can of pepper spray and stop playing with toys that look like guns but aren't, as someday you'll be confronted by some armed shitskin, and he will kill you with a real gun/knife.

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What is the advantage of this over a regular can of pepper spray?

>mags up to 40
That seems pretty arbitrary. "Oh, 30 rounds is fine, but 41? You might shoot some people!"

>What is the advantage of this over a regular can of pepper spray

none. a can of pepper spray is actually better for self defence, way cheaper, smaller, easier to handle, and more reliable. i own a gas pistol, paid 120€ for the fucking piece of shit. can't shoot more than twice before it jams. it's a toy, nothing more.

you can badly hurt someone if you shoot him in the face from a close distance, but that's it. for self defence, a can of pepper spray is the best option to go if you don't live in north america.

only plus gas pistols have is that they look like real pistols. so they're kinda scary i guess. but that's it.

>can't shoot more than twice before it jams
So, other than Germany's historically informed Walther fetish, why would you not make the gas gun a double action revolver instead?

it's actually a roach product, made by EKOL. i was told they were quite good.

they're not.

i was initially looking to get a gas version of a Makarov, but they go for around 700€. Ironic, as you can get a real soviet Makarov for less than 200 in Czechistan.

>only plus gas pistols have is that they look like real pistols. so they're kinda scary i guess

Actually, this is a downside. If you are pulling a fake gun on someone who is armed with a real weapon, and he feels his life is threatened, a simple aggression is going to turn into a murder.

This is a toy for sad german men trying to reclaim there manhood/autonomy

>hey guys! Ever needed a less effective way to pepper spray someone?
>well now you can look like a absolutely bad ass while you get raped!
>with the all new peoper pistol
>only 4000§ with are 6000% tax rate on things that scare liberals.

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>it sucks to get caught

Don’t Germans send there prisoners to a day spa for a few years were people get foot rubs and told there good bois?

no, that's actually switzerland and norway. germany still has prisons, even high security ones, full of russians and arabs.

Only the black ones
You really don't know what you're talking about
Of course you're going to get a shit product that jams after two shots if you buy turkish
>if you defend yourself you'll make your attacker angry and he'll kill you
Very bad line of thought. The blast from these shits is way more damaging than what any can of pepper spray is capable of.
There's a decent amount of gas in them.
I shot one inside my bedroom and i couldn't breathe in there for at least an hour even with both windows fully open

>if you defend yourself you'll make your attacker angry
I think you're misunderstanding his point. He's saying that, in pulling what to other people looks like a gun, you've escalated the conflict to lethal force. Think about it- if you're a few feet away and somebody pulls a stun gun or a knife, you're probably gonna back away. If somebody pulls a pistol, you're probably gonna rush them to try and get the gun. So you don't want to do that if your gun doesn't actually have lethal force behind it.

>if you defend yourself you'll make your attacker angry and he'll kill you
>Very bad line of thought. The blast from these shits is way more damaging than what any can of pepper spray is capable of.

No, you don't get it. I am saying that if you pull something that looks like a gun, and your opponent believes it is a real gun, it is becoming a life or death situation for him. If you are lucky, he is going to flee, if you are not, he will do his best to kill you, in order to save his life. You are turning a simple attack, that could stop with a few hits, into a fight to the death.
NEVER USE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A WEAPON BUT ACTUALLY ISN'T.

So let's see what our options are
>1. He runs away
Good, mission accomplished
>.2 he charges you
Now you actually use the gas gun for what it was designed to do, you gas the motherfucker, use any other means of force at your disposal to disable him and get your ass out of there
It's not an inert piece of plastic. If you fire at someone at that close of a range you could blind them or worse

>3. You shoot him with pepper gas and he shoots you with bullets

How is that better than just having a can of pepper spray that does the same job better and doesn't result in you getting charged by a guy who's convinced you'll shoot him in the back if he tries to cut his losses and leave?

At which point what's even the fucking point of living if criminals are armed any you cannot carry guns by law?
I'm just trying to make the best of a bad situation, man
I don't understand your point.
If you're implying you'll get charged with assault for defending yourself, that's another issue.
After you've gassed him you run away, you really don't want to hang around and see if they guy gets up ans still wants to beat your ass.
It accomplishes much the same purpose as pepper spray albeit with the added bonus of a psychological deterrent and the ability to absolutely fuck up a face if the guy gets too close

I was using "charge" in... exactly the same context you were, not a legal one. You're putting yourself in extra danger for no practical benefit compared to traditional pepper spray.

Why not just pick up some $20 unregulated grenades from sweden.

Yeah, sorry i see that now
If he does charge you, as i said, the thing actually does something and the business end of it can really fuck you up at distances of