Let's say you had 5 months of doing only one (widely available) sport 3 hours a day and were then dropped into a war zone, which sport would you pick? Shooting real guns at a range doesn't count.
Most people would say full-contact martial arts but hand-to-hand combat is basically non-existent in warfare today, so I would think paintball is the best choice. Soccer is a decent choice too I think, because it teaches you to outplay your opponent with teamwork. Back in the 19th century f.e. pentathlon was considered the ultimate sport for combat.
paintball fucking sucks for "modern combat" because the guns are absolute fucking trash. Even the most expensive paintball guns still have to shoot paintballs. The accuracy is absolute trash.
Paintball tactics are limited to paintball and paintball alone.
David Turner
Could that be fixed with different guns?
Jace Wright
Paintball and airsoft are memes. Every time I’ve gone it’s always been a bunch of larping faggots. Everyone tries to Rambo, if anything airsoft would be more realistic. I see a lot of the milspec faggots who actually try to play semi tactically even though it’s kinda null due to the fact most teams are filled with little kids who don’t call hits. Paintball obviously makes it so you can’t hide if you get hit, but in all honesty rushing in combat the way they do on big teams in paintball would get you wiped. Combat isn’t a 1 v 1 it’s squad based movements with objectives neither airsoft nor paintball typically involve that. I’m sorry to burst your bubble but it’s fake and gay, any “tactical experience” gained from either would probably enforce bad habits that get you smoked. As for soccer I don’t see how that would be any more beneficial then any other sport. You could say the same things about most sports being team orienented and objective based. In that case something more full contact like say American football or rugby would be advantageous. You’d gain a level of aggression that’s necessary in combat. I’ll be honest this is a gay thread. The only true valuable training for combat is stuff that involves things actually pertinent.
For no gun country, probably martial art with melee weapons.
Crossbow and bow are a fucking meme, it's much better to learn martial art and pretend you are harmless civie while shiving the living fucks out of patrol soldiers and steal their weapons.
Xavier Cox
I want to say like... VR is going to be the best for any kind of actual modern combat. You get all the sounds, the explosions, the "danger" of your avatar dying.
Lasers don't have the sound, they don't have the explosions or the tanks or destruction. Gotta be VR.
You could even use like... drones with IR to scan the terrain of a field to create a realistic battlefield.
Brandon Torres
Yep. Sim Guns. Real weight and feel, decently accurate, hurts like a mother fucker. You want real training? Go serve in the Marines. Improvise, Adapt, Overcome.
Joshua Fisher
This.
As a training aid paintball and airsoft are flawed in that they encourage very aggressive action. After all the worst case scenario is getting a boo-boo, losing a round and starting over. Carrying that into actual combat with real bullets that can and will kill you, where there are no do-overs could lead you to run out there and get your brain-pan emptied in a hurry.
Of course it's possible to approach it as a serious exercise, but that requires a lot of tedious planning, communication, overlapping coverage, careful movement, observation, etc. It's slow and not very exciting, so most people want to LARP COD instead.
Christopher Davis
Biathlon
Luis Wood
not really, no. Because it's paintball. You're shooting a sphere with a liquid in it powered by Co2. The aerodynamics of that are absolute shit.
Henry Foster
Paintballing is actually the best practice you can have for real world firefights. Paintballing scenarios are exactly like their real world counterparts so the tacticics and skilsl you learn here will carry over 100%. The babies who say paintballing is a waste of time a really just wimps who cry when they get hit by a paintball LOL
Simunitions. Shit's expensive to shoot, expensive to covert your pistol, and ruins your clothes. Not sure who you'll find who will play.
Justin Harris
Yeah they do, and in that case that’s about as close as you’ll probably get. It’s combat maneuvering in squad sized units, all working together to accomplish some mission. A lot of the time in war games (especially realistic ones) they make the friendly casualty rate extremely high or make the objective difficult if not impossible to achieve at times. They want you to be prepped for the absolute worst case scenario.
Henry Davis
That's awesome. I assume marksmanship ability with live ammo transfers very well into simunitions too? Could you make this into a sport, if you have fixed environments and objectives, like maps in counter strike? What about simulation grenades, grenade launchers, and other infantry weapons?
You either train for combat using what you would in combat or you just throw endless amounts of conscripts at the problem. There is no sport to train for war lol. I’ve played paintball for a while, since there is no threat of death by fire it is a game of maneuver and nothing else. Not like war at all when people have rockets and machine guns that completely disallow movement physically. In paintball the only thing stopping your maneuver is the perceived pain of a paintball...
Crossfit is for soft MOS Officers that never leave the fucking FOB. Anyone in an actual unit has been doing HIT since 2007.
Fuck off POG.
Austin Rodriguez
>does pull up >slams down into joints with full force >jump off 7footbbar slamming into ankles >does a push-up to “confuse” muscle >repeats 15 times lel just thinking about it .
Jordan Lee
Whatever focuses on endurance because odds are you're going to be doing a lot of running and walking with a bunch of shit on your back.
Jonathan Thompson
I still think hand to hand combat is a good option. sure it doesn't simulate combat but the way it involves the usage of your anaerobic system is relatively similar to combat (well coming from someones who's never been involved in it). paintballs definitely a no and airsoft too really unless you play with a good group of adults
Julian Rodriguez
olympic biathalon, it's nothing but long distance cardio, and shooting, at the same time, which is what combat is
Grayson Jenkins
Ok. How often did you hunt in the forest with a proper recurve bow or crossbow? In everything except a city you want those bowskills. You really think during a war or crisis forces on a patrol will allow you to come into shiving distance?
I did sim on sim room clearance, for indoor use the acuracy is the same as you would expect from the real deal. The only thing it lacks is the noise.
Getting hit hurts quite a lot so it slows you down and makes you plan better. The guys playing enemy had extra protective gear but we just had our uniforms and a mask on, plus body armour.
Dominic Moore
IPSC, IPDA, 3/2 Gun, or Simunition
John Green
Honestly, rugby, soccer, lacrosse, or another contact sport that requires tactical planning, team communication and frequent sprinting. Speedball isn't really a contact sport, but I think it's a solid choice.
But seriously, Crossfit can be great for conditioning when programmed and coached properly, but it's not a sport. Sports are valuable forms of combat preparation for their strategic and communicative aspects - not just as a means of getting troops in shape.
Rowing, specifcally conditioning on the ergs. God I hate ergs, but man do they get some results if you actually put some effort in to them. It ends up being mostly a mental workout, trying to push yourself to your limit and then some. Fucking ergs...
Jackson Evans
Unironically, the Irish sport of Hurling. Good cardio, good coordination is required, and you get to run around with an axe shaped stick.
Josiah Roberts
It's terrible for the joints, ingrains poor form with regards to pullups and pushups, and is the worst of both worlds for both strength and cardio. Just go swimming, lifting, or running.
Christopher Young
As someone who played from MXL to axbl/cxbl to PSP to d1 paintball; fuck no. Hell no. Not even close. Literally every gymbunny ever.
Tyler Howard
My experience with paintball was almost entirely made up of objective games. The death match sort of games were far less common and less popular than games like various versions of capture the flag and VIP games. I especially liked a flag push game where each team's starting area had a waist high log cabin sort of thing built and your goal was to push the flag into your opponent's cabin.
Carson Gonzalez
I thought you didn't need to convert pistols anymore?
>avid paintball player here. >posts some gay new nostagliag pump shit that isn't an old autococker with a pump kit way to be the 20 yearold fudd of paintball
Jack Murphy
>sport calcio fiornetino
Colton Watson
Triathlons or something like that
Jeremiah Brooks
Only thing that would work is using that modified bolt with the paint munitions and maybe combine it with a MILES like system.
I'm actually surprised there aren't more companies marketing modified bolt system firing completely non-lethal paint cartridges. Sure you'd get all the tacticool guys in on it LARP'ing and all, but you'd get the kiddies out and a somewhat realistic condition.
Noah Taylor
>Paintball and airsoft are memes.
This OP.
If you spent 5 months, 3 hours a day in a scholastic wrestling program (folkstyle, freestyle, or Greco) you would at least be in the best shape of your life.
