How are you holding up? Feels thread

How are you holding up Jow Forums? It's about time for a feels thread.

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Meh.

OP here, personally I am doing pretty shitty, nothing in my life is going the way I need it to be going for me to reach my goals. I wish I could just start over these past few months and retry life. I've made so many fuckups that I wish I could correct.

Meh, dont want to go to work tomorrow. Kinda fucking torn between building a shop on my house and getting equipment in the long run or committing and finally learning how to ride and buy a motorcycle.

Out of work. Getting older. Drinking booze like I'm still young and in the Army. Problems aren't going away, they just keep getting bigger. Trying to enter a new career but it's a 2-3 years-long application process and pays almost nothing. Don't want to be married, never going to have kids. Don't know if I'll be able to keep my car or my guns. Questioning everything.

When I was a kid I just wanted to write X-Files episodes for a living. Why are these adult existential questions so difficult.

What are those fuck ups if you don't mind me asking user.

Because you live in a country where it's every man for himself and there is no real upward mobility or social safety nets, you'll die poor and alone--opportunities are reserved for the wealthy.

Life is about the journey not the end. Everyone dies. So enjoy life while you can. Step back and look at the big picture. You live in a modern country since you can shitpost on 4chins. You'll be okay my dude. Don't give up.

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I pushed away one of the few friends I have left by getting drunk one night and telling him a dream I had. Ever since that night, things have been awkward between us, he says things are fine now but I know they aren't. That was a month ago. It seems like every choice I've made since then has gone wrong for me.

Thank you kind user, I've got a long life ahead. I'm doing my best not to give up on trying for my goals.

Yeah, pretty much. This is the America half this board wants, this is what it looks like.

Yeh, I know. There's literally nothing wrong with your assessment. I'm not a commie or socialismfag but really our over-litigious system and fetishization of capitalism is going to be our destruction. It is already literally poisoning our cities and bodies, and through our government it is poisoning our soul and destroying foreign nations. Someday the collapse is going to come, and I'm going to need my gats and my wheels.

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I'm tired of being alone and apparently everyone can tell. They keep saying I'm quieter than usual, and are assuring me that everything will be ok without me telling them anything. I'm nottrying to push them away, I just want to be someone people like.

I have no emotions, I killed my ego, now the only thing I need is water and nutrients.

I am one with the universe my power is 9000.

hopefully I do not shit myself in public again

I'm at the point where I'm slowly rounding the corner that's showing me that the tyranny of the Government is less than the tyranny of the private sector. Five years ago, I never would have said anything like that, but the Trump Administration is very quickly liberalizing me. Tax cuts for the rich, no respect for the rights of anyone but the ultra wealthy, slowly killing the ACA, letting the enemies of our state dictate our actions...

It's just not good.

I almost lost my job last week. My only car broke down. I had just put $1k in it a month before. I was forces to buy a new car. But I still have the other car. Now I'm fugged with 2 car payments. Since they wouldn't take my first car as trade in. But I was able to squeeze by and now I'm trying to play catch up. Also
>tfw no gf
But I'm just enjoying life for what it is.

Getting a divorce , moving out next week or two , only be able to see my kids 2 days a week , job is getting violent ( CO ) , depressed , drinking heavily and smoking alot more than I use to , feeling like a failure because all I wanted was to just be a better dad than my own father and feel like I let my kids down , Exs mother belittles me and it is now starting to sink in , a friend and I feel very close friend she hasn't texted me back for a while and she was recently in a car crash so I think her wounds got worse and I hope she didn't kick the bucket , cleaning guns use to calm me down and shooting use to let me get out rage and depression but it is starting to make it worse , I don't show it to friends but I'm very just unhappy with life , my work is half the reason for the divorce but it also let's me pay and support my family , working now 60 to 96hrs a week , sleeping only about 20hrs a week, took out a larger life insurance and starting getting more violent at work. Overall I'm not happy and so far only solace I had which was a very close friend . ..... she might be dying or dead and I wouldn't even know because she is as withdrawn as I am unless were physically together.

Venting felt good.

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Mate, I'm the complete opposite. '16 showed me exactly how corrupt the blue tie guys are. ACA was a government handout to big pharma. Tax cuts and fiscal irresponsibility has been the status quo since the late 90s. As for enemies of state, a lot of the shit the president says is half-retarded propaganda for internal consumption. Like the North Korea memo from a couple weeks ago, remember that? Big bad 45 saying he's stepping away from the table. Flip-flops a few days later when it was clear S.Korea's president Moon wasn't going to abandon peace.

None of them are your friend. Private sector, government, nobody. All we've got is each other.

Girl's not taking care of herself. Practically non-functional at this point.

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Trying to buy a house. Not sure I actually want to, or if it's just another project to distract myself with. Not going to have land to shoot on, but a garage would be nice.

Man, I don't like Democrats, but it's fucking triage at this point. They're a quarter step in the right direction while the Republicans are two steps backwards. I just can't vote against literately all of my other interests at this point because of guns. The Trump Administration has my insurance premiums through the roof, almost taxed me out of my graduate program, is cutting every single important Geopolitical tie we have, costing people their jobs in droves with their idiotic tarrifs.

It's fucking scary. Short of a complete 180, I'm pulling straight blue in 2018 and then again in 2020. Like I said, not my cup of tea either, but it's better than what's going on right now.

I can't forgive them for passing ACA without fucking reading it. Congress literally did not know what they were voting for. Turns out it was unconstitutional (big fucking surprise) and forced citizens to purchase from industry or be fined. Completely, completely immoral and not how democracy is supposed to work. If the big names were ousted from the party and the DNC rebooted from the ground up I'd be happy, I guess. But that's not going to happen. I see a lot of my leftypol friends talking about how we need a new grassroots union party. Completely agreed. These blue dinosaurs had their chance and they fucking blew it, multiple times.

I wish their was a party that would protect my guns, and didn't have the religious/social conservative baggage, that most conservative governments have.

Holy fuck, you're an idiot.
Trump is why insurance is through the roof? Have you tried getting "obamacare"? lol. shit is 10x expensive and half the coverage than before he passed that bullshit.

Out of school, starting a career. Said career will probably be dogshit, open to cuts and I'll be working with an public I have less and less connection with while putting up with inane politicing. Realize that I'm anti social, feel like I shot six years of my youth on nothing. Still khl virgin, and at 24 I am really starting to hate myself for being so timid. Feel like I'm seeing my country slowly rot to nothing, and I realize there's nothing I can do.

Besides that I'm fine.

My coverage both expanded and became cheaper under the ACA.

> I see a lot of my leftypol friends talking about how we need a new grassroots union party. Completely agreed. These blue dinosaurs had their chance and they fucking blew it, multiple times.

I too agree with this, but I'm also tempered by a lot more life experience than some of my younger compatriots. I know that whole sale social change isn't going to come over night, it's going to take incremental changes. The start of that road is ensuring that the GOP isn't allowed to hold the Executive or pass a single bill ever again. Democrats need to become the new right and the GOP needs to fade into Dixie and be quiet.

ok, you're one of the few. In california when it came out i literally could not sign up for it when they released it because their website and phone line was so fucked up. When i finally did it was x2 as expensive as before.

It's still a step in the right direction.

We need to implement single-payer in this country and start regulating drug prices. The majority of this country can't afford any sort of serious healthcare, as if they could get the time off from work in the first place.

>Board full of Trump voters complaining about losing their jobs and not being able to afford anything

Delicious Karma.

Sorry OP, looks like your thread went to shit.

oh fuck me. get the fuck out of here. I bet you want "reasonable gun control" also. Fucking piece of shit.

jesus fucking christ man. that's rough. don't listen to the ex, the stuff she says comes from anger and doubt she particularly cares about your feelings. don't take any of it to heart.

fuck it sounds shitty to say but everybody makes mistakes and not everything is your fault. some things you can't control. like love, or a marriage. they just run their course sometimes. stay strong for your kids my man. i'm praying for you.

>Not wanting people to die of easily treatable, preventable diseases makes me a piece of shit and must also mean I advocate for gun control

I'm completely convinced 3/4 of you and yours don't live in reality or are just run of the mill antisocials.

yeah, people stop giving the democrat apologist (You)s. tell us how you're holding up or help your brothermans out.

Hilariously thinking a chance here is worse then no chance elsewhere. You other half always amuse me with your collectivist fantasy. The freedom to choose is the freedom to fail, esp when thrown into the pot with everyone else exercising their own choices. Here's your you, now fuck off.

>how dare people be able to access the medications, and care they need to survive.
Not the poster you replied to, and definitely support less gun control, but you are making a big mistake assuming everyone on this site, is a hardcore republican

Rip bread

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Stable.
Just graduated with a moderately lucrative double-major, but still work my dead-end high school job. I also can't relive stress through Backpage anymore, so my anxiety can only be contained by drinking. Fuck Ohioans for electing Rob Portman. Fuck anyone who believes prostitution should be outlawed.

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is that way, shillblue

Just a general machinists shop? I would say go for that over a motorcycle, seems like you could do more project, plus it would be a marketable skill.

get the shop. motorcycles CAN BE fucking cheap, or they can be expensive as you want. tbhwyfam i've been wanting to get a shop together myself. too poor. got hand tools, a few power tools, a cheap tiny press, floor jack, farm jack, metal break, welder, etc. need to get a beverly shear and a plasma cutter would be nice. honestly with just a cutter i could make all kinds of custom metal shit, including AR500 metal plates or whatever. a lathe would be dope too, but those are a real commitment.

Stop listening to political "comedy" jews... It's nuts that people don't realize that is all straight up propaganda...
>RL16 and 147ELDM order is going to be here on Tuesday when I am out of town and I will have to ask my wife to get off her lazy ass and drag the package inside
women...

If you get a good rate/pay cash it is worth it... I could never go back to sharing walls. I just wish I had enough property to build a shop on...

You are either too young to have known the Clinton administration or too dumb to have fully understood the colossal fuck ups that both it and Obama have done to further push regulations that favorite corporatist power structures that feed back to the political lobbyists and DNC campaign donations. Large corporations absorb regulation hits as their rising competitors get crushed out of the market. And the joke is you think this is Capitalism as more and more govt interference prevents the marketplace
& buyers from rewarding innovation and optimization.

But no, the government will surely help the little guys with no lobbyists. You and anyone that shares this view are feckin idiots.

MY LINK BAGS ARE GETTING HEAVY

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how about you do some work instead of whining about your inadequate spaghetti noodle arms

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guaranteed that user is mid-late 20s. we should just ignore him/her. this isn't Jow Forums.

Better than last time. Called a small local gym and asked about their pricing. Ended up going down and meeting with the trainer that day; real down to earth guy, we set up a diet and workout schedule right then and there. I've been taking whey protein powder up to this point to bulk up, but he told me casein is what I need since I have a super fast metabolism, so I'm excited about that.

Went for a 15-min run this morning. It felt so great. I can't weight to start lifting weights and start weighing more than 150 lbs wet (I'm 6'3).

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Good for you user, I'm glad you're taking steps to improve yourself.

I got stood up tonight and I'm mad as fuck

sorry to hear that mate. take off your pants and jacket.

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I'm sorry user.

How do you stop feeling isolated and detached from society? I'm not particularly depressed or sad about anything but I've got this emotional distance from a lot of people now since I can't relate to trivial bullshit, and my brain's also a complete jackass that never gives me a break - even after I finish a semester of uni, I can't really relax completely
I just want to chill the fuck out innawoods but it seems like that's beyond me now, is that fixable seeing as I'm not even 25 yet?

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>How do you stop feeling isolated and detached from society?
I don't, really. I think if we cultivate a feeling of contempt for common popular things that this feeling tends to show. It's not superiority exactly, just (in my case) a lack of patience for inane bullshit. The problem comes when a lot of the people you are dealing with at your age are fucking morons and they don't know it yet. As they get older and keep embarrassing themselves they'll very slowly figure out they're just a drama-addled dumbass and settle the fuck down.

The important thing is not to feel bad about feeling "emotionally distant" just because you can't get on board with this type of person or whatever stupid shit is the new meme or social norm for your age group. Early and mid 20s always sucks. People are still figuring themselves and the world out. Including yourself. Hope this helps you user.

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I'm about to be a wizard

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Congrats user. Will you become a gun mage, or something else?

congratulations. i like your photograph. don't worry too much about it, women are generally notoriously immoral and heartless.

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Still about the same as before, that is to say basically no momentum in my life whatsoever. Can't escape the feeling I permanently fucked my life up chasing a dream that imploded and that I have no power to actually do or change anything. Had some minor opportunities completely fall through but that's par for the course. Spent the day building out my Glock in the kitchen so that felt kinda good, then I felt really stupid for about 2 hours before I realized the rear rails from the Poly80 kit are out of spec. They're made by a 3rd party and these things happen but I'm hopeing I can get it sorted soon so I can wrap up since the rest of the build is looking pretty good.

Something that is helping a bit is I got back into bowling for the first time in years, Local place does a 2 hour deal for $10: unlimited bowling, lane, and shoes. I need to get my ball re-drilled but I can still play decently and I feel myself getting better, good exercise too. I've been trying to distant myself from all political bullshit as of late, at least as much as possible. With so little in my life that's positive (or at least neutral) the last thing I need is the ultra-toxicity of the 24h news cycle.

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I have a toothache and want to die.

I'm cheering for you user. And smart move on avoiding the fuckin news industry. They are all shills who have fallen to the depths of thinking quoting from Twitter every day somehow counts as news. It's the Two-minutes Hate predicted by Orwell. Hope your gaston-gat turns out alright.

All I do is lift, work, get better with my shooting, and do things with friends
I have nothing to live for anymore
And I'm still a fucking virgin

where do you work? lifting is good for you nerd. go talk to a girl if you want to not be a virgin. wear a tight shirt or something, show off the gains.

Working as an apprentice, good money in the area so far. City.
I just feel apathetic to it all, like I hate I'm a virgin but at the same time it just feels vapid to try and smash for the sake of it
I need something to convince me to do something other than zone out

I'm sick of being lied to.
I'm sick of having my integrity questioned despite telling nothing but the absolute truth, while people who lie through their teeth (and admit to me afterwards) are instantly believed.
I'm sick of being told to "smile, or else".

Get into a new line of work OP. What you're in can't be healthy for you.

>at wedding reception for family friend
>Talking with a mid 50's man at the bar
>Topic of military comes up
>Tell him that I'm enlisting in the army in October
>He tells me that he was in the army from 1977 to 1997 as cavalry scout
>As we get more and more drinks in us he talks about his time in Desert Storm
>He had to collect three of his friends and put them in trash bags then bury them
>Says he still wakes up at night crying because he couldn't remember which bags his friends were in
>Says his fiance never understands
>Tells me that I have to be ready for that kind of thing
>But says he's proud of me and he wants to be there when I graduate from tank OSUT
>He's given me more support about the military in those short 30 minutes than my family has in a year

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These are things that don't show up until you're in too deep. It's way too late for me to change now that I've already graduated.

I'm hoping dems lose hard in 2018 and they rethink their stance on guns. Shootings have been very highly politicized and have gotten lots of exposure on the media so you can bet your ass they'll be running on gun control as one of their big policies. Why can't dems actually try to push for stuff that'll actually help people? Gun control is just partisan garbage that needs to be dropped.

Healthcare is not a constitutionally-guaranteed right and it never was, so if you're supporting those who would strip us of a right that IS constitutionally-guaranteed, you do not belong here.

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I can't deny it. I'm a fucking NEET who still hasn't a driver's license and lives with his folks at 20. I keep thinking to myself "I'll go join the military" but really, would they want my sorry ass? Could I even get past the ASVAB or the health screenings? I'm so deluded that I think to myself "I could possibly try for the Marines!". Yet just this week, my dad got ultra pissed at me and yelled at me for a solid minute. I broke down into tears after it. Could I even last a week with the DIs as Parris Island?

I like to think I have a good life sitting around, doing chores, and messing around on the internet most of the day. But really I just feel like a burden to my parents and I won't be ready for reality if anything happens to them.

Venting felt good. But please, be honest with me, Jow Forums: am I a loser?

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>Why can't dems actually try to push for stuff that'll actually help people?
Because they don't care about helping people. They never have. The Democrat party has always been about enabling and enforcing the tyranny of the majority at the expense of the individual, and they will always be about that.

You gotta lose your focus on virginity dude. If you hired a hooker tonight you wouldn't be a virgin anymore, but would that change your life? Probably not.
You need to find a relationship in order to grow as a person.

>I'm so deluded that I think to myself "I could possibly try for the Marines!"
If I could, there's nothing stopping you.

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Things are getting better but I am very lonely. I lost a substantial amount of weight and am no longer a NEET. I have money now for a good car. I'm losing my fear of engaging in conversations with strangers. I think that I want to go to school. Maybe not this year but I hope next year is year of the gf.

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Yes, you're a bona fide loser.
If you're actually serious about joining the military go hang out on /meg/ and ask around.

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That's awesome, dude. I need to lose weight but I just don't have the willpower right now. At least i'm not gaining any more weight.

>Am I a loser?
Yes

But only for thinking you CAN'T join the military.
Just go do it. Take your bike and go to the nearest recruiting station and take your ASVAB. You'll be surprised at how well you'll do. Then go from there.
I knew a fat, disgusting, shameful heroin addict who was given the choice of either going to prison for 12 years or enlisting as a marine. He made it through boot camp and came out add a better person because of it, and he unfucked himself.

If a literal drug addict can make it through the Marines, so can you my friend.

>>>/meg/

Don't feel bad user I didn't get my license until I was nearly 24. I wish I would have gotten it earlier though, not to be able to go to work but to have been able to just leave the house myself sometimes. Being able to that changes everything.

>am I a loser?

yes. so get off your fucking slack ass and do something about it. first stop fapping so fucking often, go outside at least once a day and do some sort of physical activity. When I was really down in the dumps I started by always keeping my shit clean. I scrubbed the walls of my room every day. FOR FUCKSSAKE GET YOUR LICENCE AND GET A CAR. If you live in kangarooland or somewhere with an hours requirment, drive till your feel confident then fake the rest of the hours. I only drove 30 out of the required 100 hours and had my friends girlfriends druggo mum sign off on fudged hours. Gets so much better once you have a car. Start off with any shitty job that is at least 30 hours a week. It will take at least 50 resumes handed out to get any sort of reply. You're depressed because you're stuck in the same little box and rut for hours every day. I just finished my first week at a new job+4 days of paid induction and training and im getting paid $2000 after tax on tuesday. git gud user, and I was like you only a few weeks ago.

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I can't get over my fear of intimacy. We actively pull away from potential relationships because I feel dread and anxiety at the thought of being close to someone. The few friends I have, I barely talk to.

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I've honestly plateaued for several months now. I still have 25 lbs to go until I reach a healthy bmi. When I weighed much more it was so easy to lose the weight.

I** actively pull away
I'm a retard

I got my license when i turned 18. I worked at an internship at 17 and hated having to take the bus home every day, it was a 1 hour ride and then a 25 minute walk home. That turned to a 35 minute drive when i got my license. Public transportation sucks and the freedom of being able to drive wherever and whenever you want is great.

Joining the military is the worst thing you could do.

Unironically start with the Greeks. Read the stoic primer the Enchiridion of Epictetus[1], then the trial of Socrates[2]. Plotinus' Enneads if you want to understand the metaphysics that form the foundation of belief even today. If you read Plotinus you're ready for the Holy Bible. I don't say this to evangelize, just that you seem the sort who already understands and appreciates what the sacrament of marriage is about. It's not strict rules for no reason, or simply because God supposedly said so, but because limiting procreation to marriage frees men and women from chasing after vanities and allows them to focus on proper desires and develop into the best selves they can be for their future children. Quite literally it's a philosopher's life. I dunno if that works for you but it seems like it might.

[1]classics.mit.edu/Epictetus/epicench.html
[2]Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, and Phaedo: gutenberg.org/ebooks/29441 or buy the dover thrift edition

Based old timer. If army is what you want, user, army is what you'll get. I can tell you serving for several years *greatly* improved my life. Re-enlisted once, served some more, then got out. The thrill was gone and I wanted to do something else. And tbhwy it became an unhealthy lifestyle. But those will always be some treasured memories for sure.

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Doing pretty well!
>Just successfully defended my thesis (masters in entomology)
>Should be graduating in July
>Moving in with my girlfriend in August. I've been with her longer than any girl before (1.5 years)
>Taught her how to shoot, she supports me buying, shooting, carrying guns and is saving up for guns of her own

Life is good. And this is after nearly 25 years of life NOT being good. Hang in there Jow Forumsomrades!

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Nah, you're just young and perhaps a sensitive soul. Do your research on branches of service and be honest with yourself about why you're choosing what you're choosing. Keep an eye on the future and come out with a useful resume that aligns with what you want. If you don't know what that is yet, don't worry about it: any honorable service will be good for you. Marines is what I'd go back for if I was your age. Army is what I picked, and I'm proud of my service, but experience varies widely depending on your MOS. I worked with a lot of Navy intel, they were mostly fucking degenerates and their officers were shit-tier. Air Force leadership isn't worth mentioning. Go check out the /meg/ thread.

>If I could, there's nothing stopping you.
This. Marines will make you into a Marine. Don't doubt yourself before you even know what you're capable of.

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as he was telling me that he would wake up crying because he's afraid he mixed up his friends' body parts in the bags, I just started tearing up. Maybe it was the alcohol, but I don't think so. When I looked into his eyes, I just knew he's seen some shit. Earlier I asked him about his time in Desert Storm, but he didn't say anything about it. But he brought up how I asked, and he said
>I just couldn't tell you even if I wanted to, you wouldn't be able to understand.

Then he told me that he still goes to coffee every other week with his friend who lost half his face to an IED.
>All these people in the room can say some bullshit like "thank you for your service", but that doesn't mean a fucking thing. That won't bring back his face, and it won't bring back my friends."

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Thanks for this, bud, I’ll start chipping away at it

>Don't know if I'll be able to keep my car or my guns

Start transferring the guns to a rock-solid trusted friend. Alternately, get a self storage locker, start moving the guns to that, one at a time. Either way, make periodic mention to your wife that you’re trimming your collection. Keep your last few most disposable guns for her to claim in the settlement. Unless your car is the Mustang from Bullit, let it go. But fight for it like it means something. You’ll be able to get a few things under the radar if she think the car is your make or break point. Getting away with no alimony is a win. Buy a copy of Writer’s Market, tab 100 likely markets, and start spamming submissions.

jesus fuckin christ kid. yeah, it's not something that can really be communicated adequately. i've had similar talks. these are best friends, they depend on each other. they depend on you. i was not combat arms but if suddenly these friends were gone, blown to pieces... it's not your fault, but it can easily seem like it is. don't let the real shit affect your decision to serve. choose whatever you think your balls can handle. if you really, really, really want to be a grunt later, you can transfer/re-enlist for it.