NORWAY LACKS CREDIBLE DEFENSE PLAN

>Implying the Russian, Iranian, or Chinese MoD would have any idea what they are doing if war came to their borders.

Or he can convince them to buy more shit from us. If these countries do end up spending more on defense they will probably buy a lot of USA made weapons.

What's better motivation to develop advanced weapons: To defend yourself because your allies are weak, or to sell to your allies to make them marginally less weak?
The F-22 is what happens when we design a weapon for ourselves. The F-35 is what happens when we design one to sell to everyone. Which would you rather have 1000 of?

Also acting like man child and making american politics the laughingstock of the globe is hardly an effective strategy to get our "allies" to buy more of our stuff.

I agree. Design by committee is always a clusterfuck. Things are always better when they are designed to excel at one goal instead of trying to be the jack of all trades.

It would have been cheaper to develop 2 or 3 specialty aircraft instead of the F-35 performing all roles. Forcing a platform to also be capable of VTOL is ridiculous. That is a huge specialty that needs its own airframe.

You really think somebody would spend hundreds of millions of $ on an inferior weapon system just because they don't like Drumpf?

In 2 or 6 years (if he is re-elected) he will be gone. Then they are stuck with whatever weapon system they bought.

I dont mind his domestic policy, but his foreign policy has given an insight into the "REEEEE DRUMPFO IS LITERALLY BEING IMPEACHED TOMMOROW" crowd. Pretending like its gunna happen is a good way to cope with his idiocy.

how the flying fuck would he know? he just says shit at random.

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I think they would spend hundreds of millions of dollars on inferior weapons that are still cheaper than buying American, with their decision helped in large part by Trump's autistic whining. Especially if those weapons come from other European nations that are also dealing with his bullshit. I hear the french have a fancy new fighter they're looking to sell.

But it's high quality hilarious shit.
He thought the best way to approach Trudeau on their trade dispute (or as it should be known, failing to understand supply economy) by telling him how many televisions they have on the "unlimited budget" Air Force One.

He's fucking comedy gold.

I feel you on that. I didn't vote for him, but honestly there's a lot of shit we need to buckle down on that the left is just too soft to touch. Making America look like the autistic kid who nobody wants to sit with at lunch isn't a good way to do it though.

Step 1: Upgrade all F-16AMs to V standard if you can or replace outright with Gripen E

Step 2: Purchase more F-35s

Step 3: Purchase Patriot Pac 2/3 mix

Step 4: increase troop levels by two-fold

Step 5: Upgrade Leopard 2A4s to A7

Step 6: Purchase fleets of Repear drones

Just to name a few

As always, if Trump's lips are moving he's bullshitting.

Off the top of my head Norway and Iran have different defense minsters, and the Russian defense minister is a career bureaucrat who has never served.

>and the Russian defense minister is a career bureaucrat who has never served

but he's got a dick and no lady parts, which is apparently all that matters

Sure would be fucking interesting seeing a land invasion of norway through the arctic border, there's one major highway and the rest is mountains and forests and other untraversible shit. Norwegians just need to stock up on planes and ashms and they're set, then again this is probably a marketing trick, tell them they're cucks who can't defend themselves if they don't buy F-35s
As with all paper tigers, looking tough is what matters

The Germans literally took over the country less than 80 years ago.

usa lost every war since ww2 explain that mutt :^}

>Norway and Iran have different defense minsters
Both left their positions in 2017, image is slightly old.

>the Russian defense minister is a career bureaucrat
Wrong. His background is an extensive Civil engineering history, he was awarded the highest Russian honor of "Hero of the Russian Federation" for his cool head and successful work during numerous stressful events such as floods and terrorist attacks. By all accounts his work as defense minister in the Ukraine and Syrian conflicts has been successful.

>but he's got a dick and no lady parts, which is apparently all that matters
That's not what matters. He has over a decade of leadership under stressful situations and has a strong understanding of engineering and infrastructure, which is fairly useful as one of his biggest jobs is selecting targets for air strikes.

I'd fuck the Albanian one real good

USA actually lost WW2 which is the reason they have lost all these new "wars". The USA loses but another country keeps gaining from their work.

never. served. bureaucrat.

Why Europeans always forgot about artillery? MLRS\ATACMS are really great. Imagine Norway with 500 km+ Deep Strike missle. Damn.

We've won pretty much everything but Vietnam.

They'd be more competent than people who weren't even in the military to begin with though

>have
Had

Trump doesn't know shit about the military or military spending

He was an engineer in the Russian airforce

He was an engineer in the Russian airforce.

for all intents and purposes we never lost a battle in Vietnam either

In 2020 when he steps off the podium after handing over power to the next Democrat President, he's going to find himself in the hands of the US Marshals service. He will be extradited to NY. He will be arraigned and released. He will then be convicted of RICO at MINIMUM. Then he gets to sit his stupid fat ass in prison until death.

Best case scenario is he realizes that the gig is up and he steps down. Nixon 2.0. Pence will then step down and so on, considering how there is no way in hell Pence isn't completely in on the whole thing. A pardon drops for any of them and the party loses the next 10 years of elections when the tapes and transcripts find there way to the media. Our allies caught these sons of bitches as early as 2015 running their cocksuckers to the Russians. You think NATO isn't holding all the cards here? This kind of shit is sad bluster from a wannabe despot who is willing to do anything to save his own hide from justice. Which he can not do. Not even if he is President.

So sit down, strap in, and shut the fuck up.

>Why Europeans always forgot about artillery?
Finland for one has enough artillery to act as decoy forests to Greenpeace when they come looking for clearcut sites.

>Finland 1
>Treehuggers 0

>The fucking level of delusion in this post

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Ad hominem against something that is true.

U feelingz hurt?

>laughingstock of the globe
Europe only likes people they feel they can easily manipulate. they loved Obama because he let them run train on him when it came to their attempts to move towards a Europe dominant position.

>the french have a new fighter

Which one the one that costs twice as much as an f-35 or the one that won't exist until 2040? You really have no clue how uninformed your world view is do you?

At first I was like at least they have good rifles, and then wait they got the whole marine on those things. Oh she's just visiting.

YA THINK YA HOT SHIT DONTCHA

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH FUCKING TRUMP I WISH HE'D FUCKING SHUT UP

The US has provided for the defense of NATO ever since the end of WWII, no questions asked. STOP FUCKING THINGS UP.

Somebody impeach this asshole and get a fucking Democrat back in office.

Since when have israeli shills posted on Jow Forums?
Is it shariablue?

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2nd'd.

Another thread for reddit to shit up like they do on /v/ and /tv/

This is your brain on sóy

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>Trump

No. That was the defense minister. She is the new foreign minister now. This is the current defense minister. But I guess touting the previous, female one is more fun.

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Fuck Trump, fuck the GOP, and fuck white people.

Yay, up from 350 to 700 marines stationed in Norway. Total. Woopie Doo.

Third

Yeah, because buying 50 F35s is hardly nothing.

Merrill McPeak tier retards like you guys who get all their false info from yelowtaildefense tier youtube vids should be culled tbqh

Dunning Kruger in full force today

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>Implying that is a good thing
>Implying that we ever use our gargantuan, oversized, overfunded military for anything other than to fight other countrys wars
>Implying our nuclear arms aren't the only deterrent we need from any actual threat

By all means, keep trying to convince me that Russia will take over the world unless we gladly pay another fifty billion dollars for some useless garbage that will never see use in anything other than blowing up ragheads for Israel.

US global military domination is literally the bedrock of world stability.

If the US isolates itself again, say good bye to world order.

brainlet
see he's got it.

And what does world order do for me again?

>dude if your minister doesn't look grumpy they must be incompetent
Yeah maybe we should be hiring actors or bodybuilders next, that seems more your speed

Jesus Christ. I've seen some shit, but this is easily one of the worse threads I've seen today, between the TDS suffering faggots who can't stop mentioning a certain annoying JewYorknigger to the gay picture of the defense ministers.

Except it's the US that's managing to destabilize world order, in places like N Africa and the Middle East, where multiple dictators have been toppled repeatedly over and over again in the lead up to the European migrant crisis (which ironically the main EU states aided in). Basic non-interventionism would work wonders for world order you know, the US need not be the leader of the world in terms of military power.

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localized perpetual and controlled Instability is stability

>And what does world order do for me again?

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Seriously, he picks on Norway - out of all the countries in NATO? That's totally unreasonable, Norway takes their NATO duties seriously being one of the key providers of ASW patrols in the north Atlantic.

>dude we control everything in this constantly volatile just trust me

>localized perpetual and controlled Instability is stability
>The entire Middle East is in shambles and filled with terrorist cells as a direct result of US and EU intervention because "MUH GRAND CHESS BOARD"
>Dictators like Assad, Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi are constantly being offed or in the process of being killed so the EU and US and control more of the world again because of the "Gay chess board meme", introducing more chaos in the Middle East
>Stable

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US hegemony needs to go, Latin America shouldn't rule the world

>iraq
>now incapable of external millitary action
>lybia
>no longer capable of influencing the region through selective weapons trafficking
>syria
>effectively a nonfunctional state removing the only relevant arab state controlled by russia
if Obama had any talent and had pulled off syria it would be less shitty but keeping it in a constant state of upheaval serves some purpose even if it was plan D
>terrorists kill a few thousand other brown people in the region every year but fail to effectively threaten our interests or damage the United states
Oh no.
If Europe was kept under better control with would have been easier but the American left as rarely ever been good at foreign policy since Carter. The only reason they even got anything done this last cycle was due to the guidance of neocon advisers.

Norwegian here,
Norway is the only country bordering russia that isnt near the 2% mark.
Shitty government lower taxes som they cant afford to bump the budget up enough
They say we Will be close to the target in 2024 with no plan how.
Argues that we Are one of the blogget spenders per capita.
They have practically broken the Norwegian basepolicy of 1949, that says no permanent foreign troops.
Now there's 700 marines rotating here. Up from 0 before they got elected

Hope Trump impose special special aluminium toll unless we hit the 2%

>now incapable of external millitary action

The only reason we have any cause to be concerned about Irans ability to project force is because we kept meddling in their affairs until they put their foot down.

>no longer capable of influencing the region through selective weapons trafficking

I don't care what they do with their region

>effectively a nonfunctional state removing the only relevant arab state controlled by russia

I don't care who is friends with Russia

>iran
nigga what?
>I don't care what they do with their region
do you have CFS?
>I don't care about America continuing to forward it's dominance
Brainlet

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Well, compared to the previous government there's actual work in progress. The socialists' defense strategy was whatever the center party wanted, which was getting as many farmers well paying extra jobs in pointless rural bases as possible, in exchange for getting their votes for that amusing policy of getting in as many asylum seekers as possible.

Funny thing is, only the far left fringe is seeing that handful of US marines as a problem. I don't recall them piping up this last winter when the Russians had a 40.000 soldiers strong unannounced exercise near our border.

>durr america should do everything
Eurofags are pathetic

Blue wave is coming, MAGApede

Probably only one deranged share blue faggot

Sure, after the last few fuckups the Democrats had where basically prevented themselves from having an actual platform for the midterms (seeing they weren't responsible for the economy's generally healthy state, the N Korean negotiations and managed to fuck up on immigration via Chuck Schumer saying that the Dems wouldn't sign or make any legislation about it after the whole child separation thing). Let's also not forget the fact that they're using the same strategy they used in 2016, which ended so well for them. As fucked up as the Republicans are at moment, they aren't in a completely JUSTED state, unlike the Democrats, who managed to snatch defeat from the hands of an obvious victory multiple times now.

I'm a european, I don't really appreciate Trump, and yet I can guarantee you he will be reelected in 2020. As sad as it may be for simple followers of the US who get no respect out of it, it's kinda good for my country's military industrial complex anyway since he can be used as a leverage to sell independant systems to unconvinced customers. It's called "the Trump effect".
There are just 2 years until the next term and still no serious contender against Trump. Who are they going to send? Hillary? Obama?
There are no young democrat leaders being in the little papers of Israel while being "representative" of the stupid leftist identity/diverstity politics, aka "non white cis male".
Trump is a tard, does a lot of shit, yet his adversaries can't come up with a battle plan or even a renewed ideology?

>You think NATO isn't holding all the cards here?
Mate wtf are you talking about? Want to see the state of NATO? Look at Turkey. The fuckers are now sucking russian cocks after trying to suck chinese ones. They're an islamic caliphate at this point.
There is no old school NATO anymore. There are the US and their clients. At least in the mind of the Pentagon and the US MIC.
Is that a problem considering the famed "Russian collusion"? Not at all, since this reverse threat would push countries to spend more on their defense. If they can afford to provide for their own or choose a european 3rd party, that's good for them. But if they can't? Then they'd have to go US.
It's that simple. And the best part is you can mix up both ways. You MUST in fact. I'd say it's positive in the end.

Trump may be a complete retard, but he's an equalizer. Everybody is playing now. No more hidden cowards.
His actions may help a multipolar world to emerge, in which the US will protect themselves much better, and the rest of the world will have to care for themselves if they want to stay free and relevant.

SAY MY NAME!
NOT THIS NAME THE OTHER NAME!

Pretty much.

Honestly we should have stopped with the world police bullshit along time ago

Fuck I can see the seething liver of Russian MOD through his eyes.

>Trump says

what movie is this?

lol. Reminder, this is what people who post this shit look like

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Top kek, some one didn’t get hugged enough by their single mother

Someone is just upset that crooked career politicians are failing to get re-elected

Makes everything affordable

Over my dead body double nigger

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Pretty sure the ones from Norway and Italy are men, or used to be at least.

>who just let America do all the heavy lifting and don't contribute anything.

probably because america WANTS to do all the heavy lifting because it means more money for the MIC.

Go play some soccer video game fag.

I would blast a hot thick load on Netherlands face after a good face fucking.

you wont do shit, by 2020 hating trump will be popular on Jow Forums and you'll change your tune since you can only do whats popular here.

>Implying Norwegians give a fuck what mutt president from the wrong side of the globe says
Half of you degenerate faggots only know where Norway is because Okkupert includes evil Russia, the subject of your current brainwashing.

>t. Ivan vladoschavich

I think it'd be pretty interesting seeing the Europeans militarize after decades of letting the US handle their shit for them.