Are pistol bayonets just a meme? would it be better to just unsheathe a knife at the same time as your gun?

are pistol bayonets just a meme? would it be better to just unsheathe a knife at the same time as your gun?

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Shut the fuck up.

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Pistols, bayonets, small arms in general are all memes.

>bluntforce
>stiletto

Sna/k/e, try to remember some of the basics of CQC

I wouldn’t even call them a meme, since I don’t think anyone has ever thought they were useful.

The Brits had the Pritchard bayonet for the Webley revolver in WWI

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The purpose of the pistol is to stop a fight, almost always at very short range. If you are at extremely close range, & the ammunition goes low - the bayonet may get you out of a sticky situation.

If a magazine hasn't stopped whatever threat is about to murderize you, a bayonet won't help you. How fucking retarded are you?

>stab someone with the bayonet
>put your pistol out of battery

The bayonet is mounted to the frame, not the slide you cockholster.

My point still stands holstercock, it could still hit the slide

nope

knife+gun
knifegun

Yes

>Be stupid
>....

It depends on what gun katas you know. If you train with them then you can be very deadly. It's dumb if you don't know how to use it, but guns are dumb too if you don't know how to use them.

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>>a bayonet ridigly attached to the frame can somehow magically hit the slide

What's it like being nogunz and stupid at the same time?

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Not at all. I think that pistol bayonets are stupid, I was just regurgitating the argument that some people have for them.

Look here he replied , pulling from his waistcoat a curiously constructed pistol,having a double-edged spring knife attached to the barrel. "that's a great tempter to a desperate man is it not?
I cannot resist going up with this every night, and trying his door. if once I find it open he's done for ; I do it invariably, even though the minute before I have been recalling a hundred reasons that should make me refrain

I surveyed the weapon inquisitively. A hideous notion struck me: how powerful I should be possessing such and instrument! I took it from his hand and touched the blade
Earnshaw then: snatched the pistol back, jealously; shut the knife, and returned it to its concealment

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Why does it look so cool but make me so angry at the same time?

4/10 bait, you made me reply OP

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At first I thought this was a stapler with a knife attached to it.

Well hopefully if you're down to stabbing someone with your gun, you are out of ammo and need to reload anyway.

If you stab hard enough, you're probably going to make contact with the slide, thus putting you out of battery. Those goofy meat tenderizer muzzle devices make sense in this case.

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I don't know. It looks a lot different than what I remembered. Blade's guns aren't as cool as I remembered either, they are just macs with larger macs on the front. At least they tried back then though, in stead of just using AR's with a few bolt ons.

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I don't know about you guys, but I'd love to have a small version of this for my Tokarev

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They were useful once upon a time.

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>>the average man could thrust a pistol bayonet even close to hard enough to penetrate up to the muzzle

Look out for Hercules here!

Nogunz japs are both very funny and sad at the same time...

>Those goofy meat tenderizer muzzle devices make sense in this case
They actually make a bit of sense in a lot of cases. Humanitarian relief, a point of a muzzle fucking hurts and is highly effective.

>Fairly short, thin spike being thrust forward in an adrenaline fueled last ditch effort in the preservation of your own life

Even if you aren't going to jacked up on the fight or flight juice, there's still the likely response from the target doubling over into the weapon from the attack.

Throughout the history of hand guns, bayonets have been tried and dropped many times.
I have yet to hear or read a single story or account that the pistol bayonet played any significant role.
I'm skeptical that there's any real purpose to them.
Still, they look cool.
Mount away.

Yeah, I'd too be interested to know firsthand accounts if anyone could dig them up. Trench raids during WW1 in a time between full-length infantry rifles and cavalry updating to a more modern, industrialized warfare where they were fashioning clubs out of tent-pegs and street-fighting melee weapons to deal with the realities of close-quarters-combat in static trench warfare. With this backdrop, I could see a revolver-bayonet combination being quite usable.

Was that issued or private purchase?

I nearly ordered one of these drunk as hell one night. Damn they are expensive.

I could just be talking out my ass, but from my understanding officers on every side could still provide their own sidearms. Remember, this is a time where war trophies were also considered legitimate spoils of war, and most GIs took their rifles home and were even shipping back German maxims.

There is nothing a pistol bayonet can do that a separate knife cannot. Just carry a pocket knife, works just as well, except you aren't guaranteed to look like a complete dork, as you would having a pistol bayonet.

Quite possibly.
The vast majority of the time the poor bastards involved were not the pistol carrying type but infantry with rifles affixed with bayonets.
Aside from the rifle bayonet and knives, I have heard accounts of all sorts of hand made clubs, swords (yes, swords), and shovels being used to great effect.
Those who would carry hand guns were the type you'd prefer not get into the fight. (officers, messengers, medics, ect)

Not just could they, generally officers were required to furnish their own pistols.

Are you talking about me or the person who made that gun?

From my one account reading Storm Of Steel, as a lieutenant, most trench raids he volunteered for were mainly for reconnaissance and to disable hardpoints. With that it was best to use more quiet weapons such as blade and club, and then if sentries were alerted and the flares popped, throw as many grenades as you can and slink off into the darkness of no-man's-land until you could crawl back to your lines.

I could conceivably see where a bayonet pistol would be usable, so when a flare pops you can unload your cylinder/magazine and get the fuck out of there.

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Quite possibly.
Still, it seems that a hand gun in one hand and a trench knife in the other might work better
If it were me, I would rather have a shot gun with a bayonet under the circumstances you described.

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