How much would a full suit of ballistic steel armor weight, being thick enough to stop a 5.56 round from close range...

OP said steel, so I used AR550. AR500 is slightly heavier (15.4lbs/ft^2)

Also neither of those will reliably stop anything even remotely AP, so pretty much just OTMs, M193, and M855. M855A1 might penetrate it, M995 most definitely will.

>306lbs of armorplate steel
i knew a kid in high school who weighed 300lbs and that kid could move surprisingly quick. i think as long as you got the weight distributed right, you could do it.

You're delusional.

Imagine AR500 body armor. Now imagine that covering your entire body, head to toe.

what kind of steel would you need to stop those and how much would it weigh?

a person in armor is more likely to survive a bomb than an unarmored person, since the main killer is fragments and splinters which even thin armor can stop

Same steel. Triple the thickness, so 918 pounds.

>kill us troops
fuck off goy those soldiers are ours. and a full suit of armor plate is retarded. when 5.56 fails to stop you, they'll just warm up the 50 cal.

tldr you're retarded

Something like AR680, and at least half an inch thick. At that point you're looking at 500 lbs.

An NFL lineman might be able to do it for about 5 minutes, but that's about it.

680 at full thickness would probably shatter, but could be used as the back or core laminate of a multi-steel plate.

You can only harden steel so much before it gets brittle.

I was wearing 2 armox plates today for about 3-4 hours on a scene, they must weight about 15lbs together and that shit was killing my shoulders. (Invest in shoulder pads if you use steel plates)

A full suit you probably wouldn't even be able to move in. You'd just collapse.

>he's not used to carrying an extra 15 pounds on his torso
get good fuckin newfag boot

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>They would drone strike you with a guided bomb
iTs dA sRaPNel dAt kILLs u
A direct strike from a bomb is not going give a fuck what amor you have. Go ask the IED disposal if all that padding made for the purpose helps when a bomb goes off in their face.

the famous bomb suit should, to some extent, work as intended
otherwise no one would use it

>A direct strike from a bomb is not going give a fuck what amor you have.
you are a lot more likely to survive if you are protected from the primary danger of the weapon, which is the metal slivers it produces
not guaranteed safety, since the overpressere can kill you, but better than not wearing anything at all

this is why i don't respect cops

It distributes all of the weight on two points on your shoulders. Definitely uncomfy but not unbearable to the point it can't be done.

It was about 25° and I forgot my thermals, maybe that had something to do with it but my shoulders hurt like hell and I'm pretty Jow Forums

so how would you incorporate hydrolics or something for support?

Yea just do alot of squats before to train, like alot of squats, at least 100

For sitting on the perimeter of a child molester's house for 3 hours so we can bring his sick ass to justice?

The SWAT team is still out there while I sit in my comfy warm home. They've been out there for 14 hours now and there's no relief team or anything like that. It's gonna drop to like 15° tonight and only the gods know when that sick fuck will finally eat the bullet of guilt (he was threatening to kill himself rather than surrender).

You my friend are, I'm assuming, a fighting age able bodied man and you do nothing to stop the evil in the world. It is definitely real and present, we don't sit around writing traffic tickets all day. We fight the good fight and you choose to work some meaningless McDonald's job wasting your potential to help the good people in this world. That is why I don't respect you.

>you do nothing to stop the evil in the world
And you actively promote it.
>we fight the good fight
By shooting the wrong person, sleeping on the job, taking bribes, stealing evidence, etc etc etc?

You are the weakest bitch, teenagers and woman carry 50 lb packs all day, up and down mountains in the heat for fun. And you're whining about some plates for 4 hours? Holy fuck put down the donut and hit the gym piggy, you're a fucking disgrace.

shitskin lib detected

>You my friend are, I'm assuming, a fighting age able bodied man and you do nothing to stop the evil in the world. It is definitely real and present, we don't sit around writing traffic tickets all day. We fight the good fight and you choose to work some meaningless McDonald's job wasting your potential to help the good people in this world. That is why I don't respect you.
LOL, you think i'm building a suit of armor for nothing? good goy, you are.

I wouldn't because thats dumb.

>primary danger
What the fuck is concussion and internal bleeding

Hardly. Cops in my area just suck.
>if they're not asleep in the median on the interstate they're running a protection racket in the strip malls

>the famous bomb suit should, to some extent, work as intended
the point is to protect you from shrapnel, it will keep you alive long enough for the shredded remains to be cut away and a doctor to crack open your ribcage for an emergency heart massage
if you get hit by like 1 kg of explosive, max

anything over that and the suit just serves to give you a decent chance of a closed casket funeral with all of your parts inside

>think I'm build a suit
I don't think you're building a suit at all, considering if you'd given it even a modicum of thought before making this thread you would've realized how fucking retarded it is and just bought a plate carrier instead

Satan digits of truth...

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That's beyond retarded, you'd need a lackey in a same suit behind you repairing hoses and filling you up every minute and you doing the same for him.

>This post brought to you by Soros funded CNN

You're brainwashed if you think even a fraction of a percent of police activities are what you claim. I don't have time to deal with you if you're already so dumb, I've dealt with dumb people all day today and I'm tired.

Good, go out and save them damsels and kiddos Samurai user.

desu senpai i hold no respect for you for the reasons you outlined in your post
you'll gladly go above and beyond to fuck up some mustache twirling stereotypically evil rapist or whatever, but you won't do a thing to stop the average abusive parent driving their kids to suicide or whatever
that goes for all government officials, not just you

Do it with an exoskeleton system.

>ie Power Armor

>tfw we will have legit power armor within our lifetimes
Gud feel

>upholding unjust laws AND lording it over "the civilians"
You are literally worse than Hitler. I fully truthfully wish you get shot in the back by a crackhead.

Would you rather them be writing you tickets instead of "sleeping?" Srs question, people always look mad like they caught me slacking off if I'm eating my lunch behind Safeway, like because of my line of work I'm never allowed to take a lunch break. But if I never took a break I'd probably be pulling them over for something (or shooting the wrong guy which I literally do everyday I just can't fucking get it right). So which is it that you want?

>Good, go out and save them damsels and kiddos Samurai user.
>only REAL cops and ARMY GUYS can help people
>you can only stop bad guys with israel's consent
>i have a badge so i'm a
BIG BOY
lol, cops are atrocious

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Ok we get it, daddy was mean to you so you don't like anyone making stupid meanie rules for you.

Maybe, I dunno, help people?

>you can only stop crime with the blessing of the state
basically yeah, vigilantism is illegal

yes, you're a hero, you're totally not aiding and abetting the murders of thousands of people :)

Oh yeah man I just love taking my breaks while theres a bank robbery and a mass shooting happening, really makes my sandwich taste all the better knowing that innocent blood is being shed.

imagine being this cucked, holy shit.

You are so wrong, but I was 19 once too.

I have Kevlar on my back dumbass. Either way it would be a noble death and I'll be dining in the halls of Valhalla while you slave away just to make people hamburgers or provide some other dumb, unnecessary service. Because you're a dumb, unnecessary person.

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>dining in the halls of Valhalla
>this is the guy you're supposed to entrust your life and protection with

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Ok I'll help them by pulling dangerous (probably uninsured) drivers over and writing them tickets so they stop being dumb and don't crash into/kill you. Or shake down some gangbanger with drugs in his pockets so he doesn't shank your mom for her purse.

Because that's happening every time I take a meal break. Hey, at least I'd drop my sandwich and respond. You'd be sitting at home jacking off without a clue of what's going on in the world around you.

Nigger I'm agreeing with you

>t.
it should be illegal to project this hard

yeh with some regular use you'll become accustomed to it. normal. same like walking long distances in boots, your feet just toughen up.

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I'd rather them at least attempt to pull over the asshats doing 115 in a 65 on a crotch rocket you can hear from 3 counties over weaving in and out of traffic in shorts and flipflops with no helmet in a helmet required state, or the dickbags swerving all over the road with a BAC of .21 at 10am on a Thursday, or the little old chinese lady with a minivan full of unbuckled chinklets doing 29 when the lower limit is 45 straddling the center line with her brights and left blinker on for 35 miles.

My daily commute can be anywhere from 10 minutes to 3 hours depending on which combination of the above decided to have their daily accident on that road. And every day I see a dozen or more of each sail right past a squad car in the median because the motherfucker is taking his third hour-long paid nap of his 6 hour shift.

And I used to work in that strip mall. We got robbed by a former employee. Cashier got shot and nearly killed. Dude didn't have a mask or hat on, whole thing's on video from like 6 different camera angles, and the cops
1. took an hour and 45 minutes to respond to an active shooter situation (I got to hear the 911 recording during the trial; you can clearly hear multiple gunshots and screaming in it)
2. Nearly shot the EMT that had responded 1 hour 32 minutes faster as he's wheeling the cashier to the ambulance because "lol active shooter situation I didn't personally clear the area everything's hostile" even though they rolled 1 cop
3. Spent the first 10 minutes he was there taking a shit in the employee bathroom
4. Refused to take any on-scene testimony and basically botched every standard crime scene procedure there is (touched and moved evidence with bare hands, smoked the whole time, didn't segregate witnesses, didn't even ask if we had security cameras, etc)
5. After an hour of putzing around went "well he got away clean, all I can do is take a statement. Sucks guys but that's it"

>Getting to kiss jewgod's feet for eternity when you die

Ikr how could he not want this? Obvious sinner is obvious.

>Ok I'll help them by pulling dangerous (probably uninsured) drivers over and writing them tickets so they stop being dumb and don't crash into/kill you.
you mean literally just fucking over poor people? if you actually think you're more than just a tax collector and a boot in case some goy steps out of line, just hang yourself.

>active shooter situation
>one (1) cop shows up
lolwut

Yep. 1 cop. Who rolled up silent but then approached with his (hand)gun drawn and off safe (he had a shotgun in the car).

You could smell the Cinnabon on his breath around the Pall Malls.

You're complaining to the wrong person, if your area's police are that shitty you need to complain to your city council. They're the real crooks. They cut budgets to line their own pockets, leaving police services to end up being completely reactive and dangerously short staffed to the point that backup is unavailable and response times are comical. It's not just police services that are likely suffering in your locality, I bet you see the trash man doing 60 in a 40 in that giant ass truck because they threw 2 new routes on him and expect him to just make it fit into his shift when it's nearly impossible. Pay attention to shit like that, the mailmen drive fast as shit too. This is because of labor abuses due to laughable budgets, government work is plagued by it. That officer sleeping in his car is probably being forced to work a double shift. Try getting served with shit like that for months or years on end.

yeah, as with niggers, the only thing necessary to hate cops is to interact with them. i was out on halloween last year and heard gunshots and screams, so i called the cops. the lady who answered the phone was a giant cunt and kept yelling at me about how she needed a street name, even though i told her it was on the southeast side of the boston common. then i ran over to go see what happened and some nigger had got shot by a group of spic gangbangers. took the cops a half hour to show up even though literally had just seen one drive past me not 5 minutes before the shots were fired. they all had fucking coffee too and were acting casual as fuck

>They're the real crooks. They cut budgets to line their own pockets
yeah and you just work for them and enforce their laws with an iron fist. you're the good guy

> bet you see the trash man doing 60 in a 40 in that giant ass truck because they threw 2 new routes on him and expect him to just make it fit into his shift when it's nearly impossible
Nope. Honestly the trash trucks are some of the safest, most courteous vehicles on the road. They're also union, however,. so they basically get as many people as they damn well want and the government has to take it.
>the mailmen drive fast as shit too
The mailmen here are fat and black and can routinely be seen sleeping in their trucks en masse in the JC Penny parking lot. One of the reasons that despite being in a town of ~27k in a metro area of under a million I don't fucking get my mail more than 3 days a week and the days it does come it comes after 5pm.
>that officer sleeping in his car is probably being forced to work a double shift
Over half our police force is part-time (mandatory under 35 hours a week). More than 5% of the residents of the county are law enforcement of some form or another, although we have like 7 different PD's within the county.

Also this
I unironically 100% would rather be wholly responsible for my own safety and upkeep and have that extra $20,000 a year the state steals from me in my pocket. Since I'm already 99.9% responsible for my own safety since the cops are either useless or corrupt.

Fucking over DUMB people. There's an obvious trend with people that actually get pulled over. Dumb as a doorknob, entitled boomer who thinks laws don't apply to him, or young guy who just DGAF. Unfortunately a lot of you are young dudes that are still in that state that you run shit and no one can tell you what's what. I get that, I was very much in the same boat, but damn things are not like what you claim they are. They're definitely not the way I used to think they were, before I saw shit from the side I'm seeing it from now. Cops ain't bad, except for the minority of assholes and lazy brokedicks.

Also you will LITERALLY NEVER see anybody but the state police with someone pulled over. Literally ever. I've lived here 14 years and I've not once ever seen it, and nobody I know ever has either. Standard flow of traffic is 20 over. Even fatal car accidents have a response time north of an hour for police (usually the fire dept. has the scene under control and the injured evacuated before the police show--the tow trucks almost always beat them there). Our homicide resolution is the 4th or 5th lowest in the US. Our total conviction rate is like 17th lowest across all crimes and 4th lowest in property crime. Cops don't even bother writing police reports for thefts or vandalism damages under $15,000. 11 officers have been caught red-handed stealing from evidence and 0 have been fired. One officer was caught literally mid-nut in a cuffed and crying 14yo and was given a "rehabilitative transfer" after 5 months of paid leave after internal affairs determined there was no wrongdoing.

Oh and don't get me started on how many innocents the cops have shot here in the last 5 years, and I'm not talking Dindu McNuffins I'm talking LAPD-style "shoot that white 2-door Chevy because some guy who kidnapped a little girl 7 counties over 3 months ago drove a blue Dodge quad-cab" or "shooting at Dindu McNuffin as he runs away and accidentally Grannie 3 streets over in her 7th floor retirement home apartment that's at a 45* angle to the line of fire because they pencil-whip their quals"

Do you weigh 0 pounds?

>minority
For every 1 legitimately good cop there are 3 corrupt cops and 3000 cops that actively cover for the corrupt cops.

how about you fuck over NO ONE, and go after the elite who push things like abortion clinics, sex changes for children, pedo rings, human traficking, CIA drug cartels, big pharma drug cartels who get the population hooked on painkillers, politicians who flood white countries with turd worlders and fuck the native over?
the answer is because you're a pussy. you don't have the balls to do what's right and you can't face that hard truth so you tell yourself that working for them and stopping people who drive too fast is somehow righteous. if you really wanted to help people, you know that in doing so you would become the enemy of the state and you're too afraid to die. you're a coward, which is fine, most people are. but the thing about cops is that they lie to themselves and they lie to others and try to act like heroes, when in reality, you're just following orders. you only help people when your overlords say its okay and you tell yourself you're some big hero and this is why i fucking hate cops. i would have more respect for you if you just did it to have a cushy job sitting on your ass and collecting overtime without getting some savior-complex over it

>the lady who answered the phone was a giant cunt
Brah listen, this is anecdotal but goes along with what I said about labor abuses. Our dispatch is short staffed as fuck. They got a couple new hires that immediately quit within the first few weeks because the work is just non stop. I went upstairs to dispatch recently and there were only fucking 2 of them (there needs to be at least 4-5). I had to get an affidavit signed by a notary (some dispatchers double as our notaries to help us out). It took 25 fucking minutes for her to have enough time to fill out 4 short boxes of info. The poor lady was trying to eat while having to take calls, dispatch them over the radio, run people's information on our info channel, and now she had to fill out this fucker's dumb affidavit. Imagine taking a lunch break while having to do 25 minutes of work between each bite. That's not even a break, then again I end up eating some lunches while driving. I actually won't bring food that requires two hands to eat. I call this taking a "tactical lunch" HAHAHA. I may be going insane, and turning into a communist for that matter.

The casual as fuck part is because we're used to that shit. I've caught detectives laughing at scenes where people's family member has died. And oh yeah, don't wonder why they took 30 mins to show up. Again, our budget is kept to a level where we're a completely reactive force. Most agencies don't have the manpower to be proactive or respond in a timely manner. You only have the guise of safety and this is by design of your city council crooks. Police services are a sham, your politicians don't actually care for your safety, you heard it from the inside. The cops themselves may actually give a shit, but only according to their level of ability. I can't spend an extra 10 minutes listening to your plight, sometimes I just have to get the details for the report and go to the next call holding so the other person doesn't complain that I'm LATE.

I sincerely doubt that in the year of our Lord 2018, that there was an active shooter situation and ONE officer responded

Based Darwin poster

What state do you live in? Sounds awesome. I'm in a red state and we're broke as fuck, so maybe what I'm experiencing is exaggerated compared to the deal your guys get.

Also, you should try living on an Indian reservation. It's basically anarchy. There are no roads and most services you've come to expect don't exist. There are some police, but they do nothing. Even rape is basically legal there, not only do they not take enforcement action, they don't even take a report. It's such a problem that women from the res will come into our town which neighbors it, then lie and say the rape took place in our town just to report it so we can collect DNA evidence. Same with stolen cars. The res police can't afford the cost of having NCIC access so they can't enter stolen car plates into the system (because no one pays them $20,000 of their salary a year), so people come here and say their car was stolen here. Dude you'd love that shit, fuck police straight anarchy brah. Until you need them that is, hopefully you live next to a civilized town...

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>0 have been fired
This happens because they can't afford to hire/train new officers. If they fired the bad dudes then you'd complain about response times and inability to take reports even more. But you get what you pay for. I'm not even mad, I like my job for the most part but I want people to understand the reality rather than the guise they seem to think this line of work is.

I don't believe the rape part, that happened recently in some southern state IIRC and it was a big deal. Dude is getting serious prison time. You exaggerate.

North Carolina
>until you need them
I've needed them. On multiple occasions. They either didn't respond at all or showed up multiple hours too late then had the goddamn gall to openly and outright say they'd have shown up much sooner had we been part of the "neighborhood protection program" (protection money racket).

He was basically there solely to shit up the crime scene so a different PD couldn't get anything useful out of it then solicit protection money. They had exactly zero intention of ever doing any actual police work and I'm 100% positive had the robber still been there he'd have driven away.

That was South Carolina IIRC. Basically the same scenario except his department and the DA covered for him. Was all over the local news for about 12 hours then miraculously nobody knew what you were talking about when you brought it up, even in coffee shops, because that was a good way to get your home "tragically burned down due to a gas leak".

Yeah no, in any year since fucking Columbine if an active shooter situation is called in you'll get units responding everywhere. If you're going to lie make the lie believable

I am 100% dead fucking serious.
2010, Wings over Fayetteville, Fayetteville NC. Former employee walked through the front door with a PGO shotgun, shot the cashier in the shoulder, shot a second round into the ceiling tiles, pried the 2 cash register drawers open, fired a third shot through the order window, and left. 1 hour 47 minutes until police response. I was in the kitchen, the manager called the police at the first gunshot, both the second and 3rd gunshots and the cashier screaming were clearly audible in the 911 recording.

Owner ended up taking the security footage to SBI. who had him in custody within 48 hours after Fayetteville PD sat on it for 3 weeks without even providing him a copy of the police report.

I've shot straight through 3/8ths steel with 5.56mm M855 motherfucking green tip. Turned it into swiss cheese.
I've contemplated what it would take to make exactly the sort of armor the OP is describing. >maybe half-inch thick steel backed with a kevlar liner
>400 pounds for the armor alone
>it would literally have to be a powered exoskeleton
There's a company called Bourque Industries that makes what they call Kryron armor. It's an aluminum-carbon nanotube metal matrix composite that is apparently so strong that a half-inch of the shit backed by 3/8ths steel is enough to stop .50-cal. Don't know if it's snake oil or not. The founder of the company got in deep shit over a DUI conviction, and some people suspect the whole thing is just a scam to draw gullible investors, but if the material is as good as they say, it'd be great armor plating for a powered exosuit. If you're gonna make a hydraulic suit of power armor, you're going to need an engine driving a high-pressure, positive-displacement gear pump, similar to what those Boston Dynamics robots have. You're also going to need shitloads of computers and specialized code to run the thing. Powered exoskeleton armor isn't that far away, really. Raytheon's XOS 2 was tethered, but it could have easily been made untethered with the addition of a power unit on the back. When we have exosuits, OP, we won't be swinging swords at shit with them. Hell naw, those fuckers will have miniguns and ATGMs like S.H.I.E.L.D. units from Act of War: Direct Action.

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