M60 was SUPERIOR to MG42. Myth of German engineering

romanticization of a lost cause
germans were the underdogs and lost hard
but people like to sympathize with the cool losers who made cool loking but useless wunderwaffe rather than the faceless toil of the victors who won using lame methods like having more factories or more resources

Jokes on you, both were made by Nazi super minds.

that you flandere?

I never see Germans being romanticized here, quite the contrary.

the germans fought off, in no particular order. All of europe, the USSR, and the USA. They lost, but it took a significantly larger amount of men, resources, and money per capita to do it.

In the end it was a brother war. but whatever right?

Shalom

which one is still in use?

all the nazis could really do was stave off the inevitable, another one of those glorious but pointless last stands on a glorious scale

but again, people like underdog stories, even if the underdogs are pretty much villains
if they were smart, they wouldnt have started the thing in the first place
but smart rational people doing the right thing is never cool

>the Nazis started WWII

Good post, user 98275_9CK293

>they started it

maybe you can call unifying after the franco-prussian war starting it, but everything after that was just established powers looking for excuses to stop a new world power from overshadowing them.

You're right. In reality Nazis wanted to take a few more years to rearm before launching major campaigns against allies. But those perfidious anglos and francs went to war over Poland.

germanophilia goes deep enough in this site that they start becoming nazi apologists

This guy knows what's up

One is used with a 7.62 rechambering and cycle reduction to this day, one was shitcanned for being a lesser product than the belgian 5.56 alternative.

>M60
>phased out
>MG42
>devirates still in use
You tell me.

Considering the alternatives National Socialism was the best choice the Germans had.
>Allies treat Germans like shit after WW1
>wtf why do they radicalize haha evil Krauts

The same shit the West does with Syria today they tried with Germany

This. The Germans had NO reason to feel threatened by the Soviet giant in the east. Germany should have remained passive and let themselves get steamrolled by the noble bolsheviks that were so harmless the US spend another 50 years fighting them in a massive cold war brining the world almost to nuclear destruction multiple times haha.

It didn't, you dumb fucktard. And MG42 was a piece of shit, and is not used.

The M60 is still in service, user. Denmark replaced their infantry MG3s with the M60E6.

>being this factually wrong on purpose

what do you get out of this?

No, only MG42 was.

>what is the MG3

No, krautniggers only really defeated Frenchies, and some shit tier eastern Euro countries. When they fought against REAL country like Russia, they got slaughtered.

An outdated weapon, replaced by HK123.

Excellent troll, do I ruin it by saying you knew the M60 was based off the FG42 and are just trying to get people to argue so you can come in and say "HEY GUIS! THEY WERE BOTH GERMAN DESIGNS THE WHOLE TIME! Lul!"

>being this buttblasted because Germans raped your granny

Look Ivan at least you are 25% human now, you should thank them.

No, you sub-human. Krautniggers were the ones who were non-humans. And we destroyed them.

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when stalin himself says they wouldnt have won if it wasnt for the lend lease

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Germans are the worst Europeans, but slavshit is still worse.

Before someone asks for sources.

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Slavs are superior.

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All anecdotal evidence, LL was only really a factor after Kursk by which point Krautnigger defeat was certian.

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>confirming what the world thinks of slavs

lol you are as dense as the potatoes you make your vodka of

>quotes from important people through all of the soviet leadership including Stalin himself
>anecdotal evidence
Thank god, we got some anonymous faggot dismissing it easily with a sentence with no proof or sources whatsoever. What would we only do without you? Probaly not wasting our time debating about your biased views.

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>dense as the potatoes you make your vodka of
Topkek. I think i will steal this for future usage.

Wonder where nazi engineering would have taken us.

a few dead ends with super projects but I want to see what von braun would have done in post ww2 germany, or if that orbital sun mirror would have been doable

That naval turbo chad though

Slavs can easilly anihilate you sub-human krautniggers, so shut the fuck up.
Because it WAS anecdotal, and LL was uselles trash anyway.

o u

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>Germany should have remained passive and let themselves get steamrolled by the noble bolsheviks

No Germany should have let that other country to the east exist so when the russians invaded them first Germany and the allies could have worked together to destroy communism but DUDE LEBENSAURM LMAO US POOR GERMANS DESERVE THE ENTIRE WORLD BECAUSE BULLY >:(
get fucked socialist

This

>it...its anecdotal!!!!!?!
>continues to produce zero reasons, why it was wrong

Lend-Lease to the Soviet Union was a mistake.

>Ivans belive this
I bet you think the alamo was wrong too, herr cuck

The MG42 was superior to the M60 for what the Germans used it for.
The M60 was superior to the MG42 for what the US used it for.
The 249 -could- have been better than both, until the Army got fucking retarded.
Stoner 63 is probably the best, but we'll never know.

I like this guy!

There's literally nothing wrong with an M249 that isn't worn to shit or malfunctioning.

Shut the fuck up, krautshit.

It's the HK121 aka the MG5, you stupid nigger. And the MG3 gets replaced because they weren't produced for the last 40 years and the Bundeswehr is running out of spare parts like with everything else.

Thanks! \o/
Too many people forget that doctrine and planned use dictate support weapon design, I guess.
Exactly; that and the stupid mag adapter that doesn't work. As I said, the gun is fine, the beancounters and Amry are at fault.

Literally to the moon and back, actually

>The 249 -could- have been better than both,
didn't they remove them because they were just old? they were as far as i know pretty reliable

They're only reliable when they have their wear parts replaced. This shouldn't be an issue, but because accountants think they know better than the people using the equipment, it is.

Its not MG5 you fucktarded piece of shit. Its an ENTIRELLY different weapon. Krautniggers understood that shitty MG42 was a dead end, so they tried smething different.

MG42 was also unreliable as fuck, in low temperatures it was breaking down like piece of shit. It was far more unreliable than M60.

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If the Allies treated Germany like shit after WWI, the country wouldn't fucking exist. Versailles was a positively mild treaty compared to Brest-Litovsk and the one that Prussia imposed on France after their war in 1871.

>equipment is in service for 76 years
>"It's a dead end, guys. It's shit."
no

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>imagine actually believing this

lol@urlife

There's an attempted communist takeover that was extremely relevant to WW2 Germany's existence that you sort of just left out.

LMAO at these losers competing for 2nd place

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lol no, its still in use by half of the nations in europe, including Germany

>Its not MG5
>Die Beschaffung [...] war im Juni 2013 vom Haushaltsausschuss des Bundestages beschlossen worden:
>Vom neuen Maschinengewehr MG5 im Kaliber 7,62mm, geliefert von Heckler&Koch, will das Verteidigungsministerium zunächst 65 Nachweismuster im Wert von 2,76 Millionen Euro bestellen. Nach Abnahme dieser Muster soll ein Rahmenvertrag mit Heckler&Koch geschlossen werden, zunächst ist als Mindestausstattung der Kauf von 7.114 Waffen zum Preis von 118,4 Millionen Euro geplant. Langfristig sollen die Streitkräfte bis zu 12.733 neue Maschinengewehre dieses Typs bekommen.
>inb4 krautnigger
The bait is getting too obvious, Mate.

How is the HK 21 compared to those?

>not even american
pfffffff

embarrassing amerimutt fudds btfo by the superior german engineering and posters lmao. germans still got it.

>lighter
>100g

oh dear lord. Have thanks for this great harvest of bait.

I have no idea, other than knowing the HK21 is a heavyboi.

wikipedia says 7.92 kg, which appears to be quite a bit less than an FN MAG

don't the Danes or some shit still use M60s?

Going on 15+lbs is still heavy for one dude to hump around. I have no idea how 240 dudes fucking do it. At any rate, it's HK, so it's probably pretty good.

That had been over for a decade by 1932.

I kno, rite?

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>240
>HK

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I think that second place title goes to you.

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Wow, OP is really angry, very interesting how quickly someone can turn their inferiority complex into obsession.

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>rimmed cartridge from 1890's

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????? are you sure about that analogy dude? whatever yeah Germany is the only country in existence to get screwed over by losing a war
that's why modern poland should be allowed to invade Germany and Russia right now

>Being too braindead to follow the chain or use context clues to realize that post referred to the HK21

>Rimmed cartridges mattering in a belt fed design
This post is even funnier when you know the poster probably owns or even carries guns in calibers just as old or older

Mostly, because many 4channers are Americans and Germans are the only other weapon designers we respect.

I don't think it's bait. I honestly think he's just stupid.

>still
It's fairly recently that it was adopted.

>who won using lame methods like having more factories or more resources

Man you are stupid. Let's just ignore code breaking (exciting and setting the tone for modern age), the far better psyops (also setting the tone for the modern age), a real wonder weapon (nukes are just like soooo boring), a functional naval fleet that embraces modern tactics, better small arms design, and let us not forget the most important part, cool ass resistance fighters. In the entire war the Germans are so boring compared to the Allies the only reason they get play now is that they make the best villains.

>M60, the weapon heavily based on both the FG-42 with elements from the MG-42, built with technology over a decade better, is better than the MG-42
So what you're saying is that the FG-42 is better than the MG-42
Agreed wholeheartedly.

Not a krautaboo, but the MG3 is still in service. The Pig ain't.

They replaced their MG 42/59s with the M60E6 a couple of years ago.