>An American pilot and a Ukrainian pilot have been killed when their Su-27 crashed on a training flight in central Ukraine
An American pilot and a Ukrainian pilot have been killed when their Su-27 crashed
Jack Bailey
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Joseph Morales
Finally some good news.
Xavier Peterson
>ukrainian
>ukraine
No such things.
Wyatt Thomas
>An American pilot
why was he flying with them? if you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.
John Diaz
This is the only way a Russian plane will kill an American pilot
Grayson Martin
Literally few hours ago Khokhol "president" boasted about defeating US fighter in dogfight. How quickly the tide turns, Taras!
Tyler Reed
Two words: TOLL PAID
Aiden Kelly
noice
Jace Murphy
YFW entire soviet military complex was no match for US own pharmaceutical industry
Jose Cooper
US just bought a Su-27 to inspect it more closely and this was the way for the bribed ukrainian general to write it off from the books?
Luis Ross
The soviet plane performed his duty
Hunter Sanchez
Why if they can just buy officially?
Bentley Wilson
They got their hands on a Flanker a while ago. There's even one privately owned in the states now
Julian Martinez
Ukrainians would sell their entire aircraft inventory and would let Americans to put chains on them and make them pick cotton if they only asked.
Samuel Cruz
Was there even a crash? Did it just fly to Arizona?
Logan Roberts
There is no way a plane which has been in the hand of Ukrainians for more then few weeks would make it to Warsaw, not to mention Arizona.
Landon Cruz
Say what you want but we sure know how to kill people
Matthew Anderson
Well i heard from a friend of a coworker tonight a Flanker landed in Ramstein, Germany.
Camden Thomas
The US had a Su-27 at Area 51 since 2003.
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Jason Gray
But i bet they are export versions. There is a difference in framework.
Ethan Martinez
German RC hobby has been getting out of hand lately:
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The difference between modern versions of Su-27 and whatever garbage ukrainians have is pretty much the same as difference between first production F-16 and F-16 Block Whatever now.
Chase Cooper
And it still defeated the f35.
Colton Gomez
It's a Belarusian Su-27P, same as Soviet Defence Forces
Ayden Richardson
Caleb Jenkins
>Nice job, 47
Benjamin Taylor
Export versions had a breaking point installed in their frame. As this plane wasnt meant for export, it is literally the machine Russia is using now, without export nerfs. Also it's a two seater, correct me if I'm wrong but the Aggressor Squadron hasn't any Su-27s with two seats.
Isaac Miller
>xoxolistan
>air force
The thing probably hadn't been flyable safely since the USSR
Nicholas Turner
MUH RUSSIAN SABOTEURS
Angel Walker
Are you talking about the one that crashed ? Because the P variant is indeed a single seater
Alexander Martinez
They would, but you need to take into account their own internal politics that make selling off planes publicly impossible at the moment
Cameron Scott
What will happen next:
Ukrainian president will claim a Russian saboteur flying on jetpack has been spotted in the area of the flight.
Ukrainian president will ask US to provide F-35 for free to defend Ukraine, Europe, World and Solar System, Galaxy and Universe against Russian aggression.
Henry James
If we gonna have a thread about eastern Europe i want to just add few words about Polish military. Its shit: we cant field any new equipment or create new units in any resonable timeframe, our soldiers operate on old russian vechicles, we dont have modern ammo for our weapons, tank cannons and artillery. I could go on for very long time about this. Dont be wishfull thinkers and dont believe propaganda. We are US bitch. Its a kind of relationship that you have with a 5 year old child. It sees that you are working on something so it imitate what you are doing in its clumsy manner and you give it a pat on the back. If state doesnt have means to even put up a fight to protect its citizens is it even a real state at all?
Jose Watson
More like officers selling arms to Syrian jihadists and covering up their theft by blowing up the depot and blaming it on MUH RUSSIAN SABOTEURS. You really need to get into the mindset of a typical ukrainian in a higher position when viewing incidents and news like these
Austin White
I guess the difference between Poland and Ukraine is that Poland can admit its air force is shit, while Ukrainian president literally bragged hours ago that his Su-27 defeated F-15 in training fight and Ukrainian air forces could take on NATO and Russian fighters.
Jayden James
A two-seater would be handy for G tests, just to see what the russian pilots have to endure in dogfight. Did someone already seen the wreckage video and can they identify the two-canister thing in front?
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David Brown
Ukrainian pilot probably literally had zero flight hours in last 10 years. Poor burger had no chance, he essentially was the only person who knew how to pilot a plane in an aircraft he was completely unfamiliar with. RIP.
Caleb Martinez
This is also second time when Ukrainian Su-27 kills american pilot.
Ayden Torres
>ukrainian pilot
>near area 51
WHAT THE FUCK ARE DOING AMERICANS ARE YOU TRYING TO GET US ALL KILLED
Kevin Stewart
What two canister thing ?
They said it was one of the best Flanker pilot of their air force, i.e someone whos daddy was rich/powerful enough to buy him flight hours.
Henry Moore
It was a training plane, it had two sticks. Its seats were trash though, so both couldn't get out. And yes, Ukrainian and Russian pilots hadn't had enough flight hours
Ayden Davis
Nah man, Polish MoD is very proud of their F 16. Honestly they are very proud about every little thing they change in the army. I guess that every country have their propaganda but seeing some vatnik and our shit takes it to the next level. Its a mixed feelimg of fear and cringe when you see these kinds of videos and ect. and you know how bad things really are
Leo Collins
> Ukrainian and Russian pilots hadn't had enough flight hours
but why American pilot with thousands of flight hours can't take control over aircraft?
Michael Hernandez
Zoom in first video on 0:36.
Justin Allen
Maybe because all he could do was screaming and ripping at eject handle after the plane remembered his glorious Soviet past and jettisoned his wings.
Isaiah Long
Just looks like a piece of fuselage to me
Asher Gutierrez
>They said it was one of the best Flanker pilot of their air force
Here's entire Ukrainian Su-27 inventory as 2016. Green frames are those which have been repaired into functional status and assigned to squadrons. Greyed out planes have "Sold to US", "Sold to China", "Sold to Ethiopia", "Sold to Eritrea" written on them. So the best fighters in Ukrainain Air Force are still those which Ethiopians inspected and said they don't want them. I wonder what that US pilot was thinking when he agreed to get into one.
Christian Baker
There's no denying their fleet is in a bad state, my point is the crash is more about maintenance than pilot error.
Blake Morris
So the plane literally took them on a crazy ride to hell.
Sebastian Gray
Crash is about both. If they were at reasonable altitude at the time of failure they could eject. But Taras probably did something outstandingly retarded to impress his american master.
Ryder Bailey
>national guardist
Mason Lee
Or the ejection failed
Aaron Peterson
>getting into anything ukrainian
i don't know what the national guard was thinking
Ian Long
Probably got shot down by the S-700.
Benjamin Hernandez
Cameron Wood
>There's even one privately owned in the states now
source. genuinely interested.
Jose Edwards
Shush, else they will know about S-9001.
Owen Hill
what about the S-6gorrillion?
Austin Murphy
It's still in beta, I didn't say anything.
Julian Robinson
Christopher Rogers
Topkek
Logan Nelson
neat. where buy?
Hudson Rodriguez
heard it instantly turns its foes into ashes.
Dominic Thompson
i wonder if it would be possible for a civilian to purchase a J-35.
David Davis
*J-31
Kevin Baker
Contact Ukrainian Ministry of Defence and say you want to buy a Su-27 and you'll be paying with coal
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Thomas Cruz
Technically you can use nukes for AA.
Ayden Gutierrez
I like how you can just see the 'subtle' vatnik retardation seeping through the comments. Obviously if Ukraine isn't a Russian puppet it must be an American one, because why else would anyone oppose the vatnik?
Jacob Thompson
What?
Those are Brits tho
Nolan Morgan
Noah Turner
Sebastian Perry
Blake Thomas
Lel
Kayden Martin
Jayden Diaz
Oof, next gen drones
Nolan Baker
Cooper Morris
>gets shown an actual picture of a russian
>responds with MS paint comics
lol
Logan Ross
Charles Rodriguez
The Ukrainians are still where Russia was before Putin came to power: dirt-poor, disorganized, deeply corrupt, and barely able to keep a badly-outdated military going at all. Long story short, this was inevitable.
Nicholas Campbell
aint that some shit
Andrew Miller
Andrew Bennett
>where Russia was before Putin came to power
>before
topkek
Lucas Allen
I’m case people are unaware: USA deployed some F-15s to Ukraine from California ANG. I’m guessing they put up a pilot in an exchange program for an exposure flight.
Jeremiah Foster
>R*ssian planes
yikers
Leo Richardson
imagine climbing into slav shit and expecting it to work
Logan Young
>willingly entering a plane designed by a russian
Some serious deathwish on those pilots.
Liam Peterson
Do ukrainians have the full plans to the Su-27? They should just get some western companies to fabricate a bunch of unassembled airframes and assemble them locally as needed. They would probably end up better than russian ones due to western metallurgy and machining advantages.
Zachary Evans
Thanks for the info. Kind of nice to see how fast the relations between Ukraine and the west are growing. Kind of funny to think that Russia could be joining the club if the Soviet mentality hadn't fucked them up beyond repair.
I don't think it would be that good of an idea, though feasible. Western equipment follows western standards for example, which might cause quite a mess. It would also need new electronics, which would make things difficult. They'd be better off buying something fully developped.
Though to be honest I'd love to see a western version of the Su-27, with RCS reductions, AESA and so on. Probably could beat Russia at mounting an AESA (non-prototype) on the thing too.
Charles Thompson
They'd be better off buying second hands western aircraft.
John Powell
>American pharmacists have a higher kill count than the military of the Russian Federation
Bentley Gonzalez
And if we just go off of Russian jets, there's the MiG-23 that killed a Lt. General. For whatever reason, the afterburners got stuck on and couldn't be turned off, decided to eject when going mach 2+ while at 40,000' AGL.
Adrian Flores
>Su-27, with RCS reductions,
The SU-27 airframe is a giant fat cow. There's not much hope/help for it in the RCS world.
Aiden Russell
>And if we just go off of Russian jets, there's the MiG-23 that killed a Lt. General. For whatever reason, the afterburners got stuck on and couldn't be turned off, decided to eject when going mach 2+ while at 40,000' AGL.
That was dumb. Wait until it runs out of gas, swing the wings out, glide it down, and either eject lower and slower or (presuming this was out in the desert) just crash-land it somewhere.
Henry Reed
>posts a pole
wew
Luis Scott
Liam Long
It was probably going to fall apart. It isn't like these jets can sustain those speeds without compromising their airframes.
Hudson Harris
At full AB it would have taken like 10 minutes to run out of fuel during which you can troubleshoot.
Alexander James
>I don't think it would be that good of an idea, though feasible. Western equipment follows western standards for example, which might cause quite a mess. It would also need new electronics, which would make things difficult. They'd be better off buying something fully developped.
Depends how much spare equipment and avionics they have laying around I suppose. Have plans for any soviet fighters ever been leaked? I wouldn't be surprised if some determined hobbyists could build their own mig-29 or su-27 if they could get their hands on detailed plans.
Oliver Sanchez
did this plane ever recieved any upgrades from muricans?
Carter Thomas
if he didnt know how to bleed off speed then he shouldnt be flying aircrafts at all