Is this is the ultimate display in fuddery?

I hunt the deadliest game of all: man

>SJWs
They're called NPCs now, didn't you get the memo

Might be cool, Can bring the whole senpai.

>an M2 no less

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Alternatively, nice gift for someone you know who wants to into firearms. They come shoot yours, want their own, you buy them the package, they have a fun range/build day and meet a bunch of other newguns who might go to the range together with less pressure...
Sounds pretty kino.

fucking wordfilter

Has anyone tried typing spanish in Jow Forums yet.

Yo onions americano. No onions mexicano. No onions mujer. Onions vaquero.

>itt: bunch of Fudds

Oh, this bullshit. Listen, I'm a college English professor IRL (yeah, I know - we're not ALL shitlibs). I've heard this bullshit about "We don't need classes with students and teachers and classroom discussion and someplace where you can bounce ideas off fellow students or get feedback on your work or ask whether you really understand things right! We can just have everybody sit at home and watch videos and then take online tests!" for years now. Yeah, well, it doesn't fucking work. Maybe for a few very motivated people who already knew the subject pretty well and would have probably breezed through the class anyway, and maybe in a few subjects that are extremely straightforward like learning a new programming language. But for most people in most subjects, no. There's real value to having a live human being teach you something, give you feedback, evaluate your work, and answer your questions in real time.
>paid $650 for an Anderson
Yeah but you didn't pay $650 for an Anderson. You paid $450 for an Anderson and $200 to have someone who knows what they're doing teach you the basics of how to build, maintain, and shoot an AR-15, all of which are valuable skills. inb4 "But muh $200!" Not everybody is a poorfag who has to learn shit from an Indonesian pottery glazing forum because they either can't or are too cheap to pay a professional to teach it to them. Not only that, but this is a point that consistently needs to be made in this place: A couple hundred bucks is not a lot of extra money to drop on a durable item that you may stake your life on, or on learning a skill that may really come in handy someday. It's perfectly sensible for people to spend that money on those things instead of bolting together a $300 AR from bargain bin parts using instructions they got from YouTube and then spending the cash they saved on waifu pillows and Overwatch DLC.

>Assembling a shitty AR15 is on the same level as a college course in complexity and required understanding
Amazing. You sure you're a teacher?

If you can get a college course for 200, do it. If you can't, maybe your post is retarded.

What does that even mean? I'm pretty sure you're retarded.

An AR building workshop isn't equal to a college course in complexity or required understanding. Equally, $200 isn't equal to $35k per year.
It's almost like they could both be good deals depending on the student and the course.

Not him but I agree. Now imagine the gov. subsidized such AR class packages.

personas de fritos btfo

how is this anything but a good idea? Lets say this is for fudds, theyre actually learning something about dem scary black rifles.

Non-Player Characters?

>An AR building workshop isn't equal to a college course in complexity or required understanding.
Yes, welcome to the discussion. Do you want to reread the reply chain and find where you made an ass of yourself? Alternatively; understand how green text works?

I ignored this because I thought it was some stale copypasta. Looks pretty fresh now. Mind of I take it?

You missed his entire point, you fucking retard.

That people need to be hand held through what is an insanely easy task?

I want to call bait.
What he means is that college courses cost way more than $200. Thus, this $200 gun building "class" can be worth the value.

wait, let me get this straight.
to use an acronym to fight an acronym. we're now calling (sjw's) "npc's"?

how is that not using a double negative? or, to use an old meme; dividing by zero?

You vastly overestimate other people's intelligence.
Maybe it's easy for some autist on an online Korean stamp collecting forum who looks at this stuff every day but your average person hardly knows at all.
>Just YouTube it
This requires the ability to teach yourself new things. In my experience, there are many people who do not have this ability.

No, he missed mine because he doesn't understand very plain hyperbolic statement.

I'll break this shit down Barney style though.
>A college course is way more involved and complex than assembling something so simple literally anyone with a room temp IQ and working faculties can do it
>user getting ass blasted that someone said they should learn a simple task from an instructional video because other, different, people say you can do the same with college courses is retarded because they're completely different things.
>tl;dr college course =/= hobby building a gun. One can be learned from a 15 minute video, the other requires some level of in-person instruction.

The more ARs in circulation the better desu.

>A college course is way more involved and complex than assembling something so simple literally anyone with a room temp IQ and working faculties can do it
Which is why it costs significantly more than $200
>user getting ass blasted that someone said they should learn a simple task from an instructional video because other, different, people say you can do the same with college courses is retarded because they're completely different things.
The point is that the average person would most likely learn more from the $200 lesson than from videos.
>tl;dr college course =/= hobby building a gun. One can be learned from a 15 minute video, the other requires some level of in-person instruction
You can learn almost anything from a video if you're smart enough. Some people just aren't as smart as you user.

>many people who do not have this ability.
sort of agree.

although it could be due to laziness. technology has over-saturated the masses with easy to find common knowledge. a subject someone is unfamiliar with is easily dismissed if it isn't spoon-fed. because research requires effort.

Why do fucktards like you keep spouting "fudd" without knowing what it means
This is the polar opposite of fuddery if anything

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>AR15s
>fudds
lurk more

It's a premium price, sure.

But how can you say "no" to what is obviously going to be a great father-son event? Or that guy who is too intimidated to get into fire arms and this is a good breaking point?

We bitch and complain about how little people know about guns, then when there's literally a class about it Jow Forums has this bullshit elitist attitude.

My jimmies are significantly rustled.

Are you being this autistic on purpose? Where'd I say anything about the price. The guy compared an AR15 building class to taking a college English course and said you can't learn either from videos. This is patently false because an AR15 is less complicated than the English course.

Am I being trolled?

>a fudd
>building their own ar-15
You and the rest of you meme word spouting fucks can take your meme words and shove ‘em up your asses.

Indeed. I think it's a combination of both.
Take building a computer for example. It's dead easy and there are thousands of videos and websites of information and yet your average person most likely can't identify where the CPU is.

a sticky with relevant board lore/information would be useful to help the newfags find their place.

look at it like this;
the sooner they acclimate, the sooner they become contributing members of Jow Forums.

>Where'd I say anything about the price
You misunderstand the point. The point is that the gun class is less complicated than a college course. Likewise, the cgun class costs less than a college course. Thus, it can be comparable in dollar over value.
>The guy compared an AR15 building class to taking a college English course and said you can't learn either from videos.
He never said it was totally impossible. He said that some people who are smart could figure it out on their own but there are a lot of people who can't. This class is for those people.
>Am I being trolled?
That's what I want to know

There's already one and they don't read it.

>You misunderstand the point
>The point is that the gun class is less complicated than a college course
I've been saying this the whole time. You're arguing it against me like I'm saying something different. I never said anything about the value of the course either, hence the price is irrelevant.
>He said that some people who are smart could figure it out on their own but there are a lot of people who can't. This class is for those people.
He was talking about college courses when he said that, because he was angry someone suggested learning a simple task from video and extrapolated that into his own (completely different) field.

Specifically, "Maybe for a few very motivated people who already knew the subject pretty well and would have probably breezed through the class anyway, and maybe in a few subjects that are extremely straightforward like learning a new programming language."

Building an AR15 is so stupid simple literally anyone can learn. Anyone but my dad, he doesn't even know how to clean the fucking thing despite being shown a dozen times.
>inb4 that's who the class is for
No, if you're that dumb a 3 hour class won't do anything.

>That people need to be hand held through what is an insanely easy task?
Sure, and writing a coherent 1200-word essay is an "insanely easy task" to people who have an aptitude for it or have successfully done similar things in the past. But I get paid good money to sit in a classroom and teach grown adults how to do it, because for them it's not so easy.

The problem here is that you've got what Scott Adams calls the "I am the world" fallacy going on. Basically, you assume that because a task is easy for you (because of your personal aptitudes or past experiences), that means it's easy for everyone. The flip side of this is that you probably think that some things are really hard to do, based on the fact that you're personally not very good at them. Whereas people who are naturally good at those things think they're "insanely easy".

It's all in the perspective, really.

Fucking reddit all over this thread

>It's all in the perspective, really.
Except building an AR15 is objectively easier, by orders of magnitude, than learning to write an essay using the APA format.

>Is this is the ultimate display in fuddery?
desperate, low IQ nogs will write a rubber check to get in , then steal all the "ARs" in the room

see >Building an AR15 is so stupid simple literally anyone can learn. Anyone but my dad, he doesn't even know how to clean the fucking thing despite being shown a dozen times.
maybe your dad should attend this class :^)

This thread reeks of a ShareBlue divide and conquer attempt

not everyone finds task difficulty based on their objective information complexity

I smell a guy laughing behind his monitor at his "epic trolls"

We were hostile fucks long before shareblue even existed, 2016fag.

>(1) Magpul P-Mag 30 rd.
>(1) Box of Midwest .223 ammo - 20 ct.
>range time
So like, 5 minutes at max?

considering the class takes place at a range, they'll probably be able to buy more ammo

It's literally a series of pins, a couple small springs, and 2 wrench turns, and one screw. If you can't get that after a simple explanation and demonstration a YouTube video provides then you're in the "can't wipe your own ass without help" category. The same isn't necessarily true of someone who has trouble formatting their English papers properly.

It's not perspective, or "I aM tHe WoRLd" fallacy, it's objectively one of the most simple things you can do. Next you're going to tell me playing with Legos was difficult and you need a $200, 3 hour course for that.

a good 70% of the posters here are NPCs

>Except building an AR15 is objectively easier, by orders of magnitude, than learning to write an essay using the APA format.
1) As others have pointed out, this is why the AR class lasts three hours and costs $200, while the English class lasts 18 weeks and costs ten times that. Proportionality seems a hard concept for you to understand.
2) In fact, no it isn't. APA is dirt fucking easy. What's so goddamn hard about parentheses, author's last name, comma, year of publication, parentheses? (user, 2018) - easy as fuck. Even the full citations from the References page are easy. All you have to do is learn a format and follow it. Nobody should need more than an hour with the Purdue OWL APA page to figure it out. And yet you'd be shocked at all the ways people fuck it up. And not just goofy undergrads, either. I do some private tutoring on the side for students in grad programs. Even they can't seem to get a simple fucking format right. Well hey - good for my wallet, I guess, but it never ceases to amaze me.

>Next you're going to tell me playing with Legos was difficult
interesting you should mention that.
Building a computer can be comparable to building with legos. It's literally plug this in here, plug that in there, and you're done in 10 minutes. If you can't get that after just looking at the different slots on the motherboard and a few videos, I don't know what to say to you. Yet most of the people I know are not able to assemble a computer from parts and probably still won't be able to after a few hours on the internet. I can bet it is a similar case with the people you know.

>It's literally a series of pins, a couple small springs, and 2 wrench turns, and one screw.
If you think that's all it is, then remind me not to stand near you at the range.

No, it's even worse. It's one user being insufferably autistic with another teacher user trying to explain why being helplessly autistic is shitty.
Welcome to Jow Forums

>It's literally a series of pins, a couple small springs, and 2 wrench turns, and one screw.
Bro that's not an Ar. That's a fucking IED.

>2 wrench turns
I too like to live dangerously with my wandering zero on my barrel.

I lived in Silicon Valley for years before moving out a few months ago. For all those years, I had techie friends tell me how simple coding was and that anybody should be able to pick it up easily. But that's because it was easy *for them* - their brains worked in certain ways that meant they took to it naturally. But I sure never took to it, and I bet most people here haven't done a lot of coding lately either.

There isn't much else.
You can't get your barrel nut between 30-80ft/lbs of torque in one turn?

One turn gets the nut down ~3 threads from the top, so a grand total of 0ft/lbs

Are you being intentionally obtuse and pretending people don't hand tighten it before applying the torque wrench?

Fudd IS:
>Keeping all your guns in a glass-door cabinet in your living room
>Only owning a series of indistinguishable hunting rifles and shotguns, all with wooden rifle stocks and no-name scopes
>Cleaning your guns exclusively by running a Hoppes Bore Snake(TM) through them two times
>Buying a Tapco'd SKS, and telling people it's an AK-47
>Taking apart one of your guns, and having a shitload of old pine needles fall out
>"you need a class 3 license to own a machine gun"

Fudd is NOT:
>Owning a rifle with 0 wooden parts
>Owning a magazine with more than 10 round capacity
>Owning anything other than a 20"-barrel shotgun for home defense

It's no use, man. I've been trying to correct people about this shit for years and they can't get a fucking clue.

>fudd
>semi automatic
>commie assault weapon
KNOW THE MEANING BEHIND THE TERM BEFORE YOU USE IT.

What do you think the word "fudd" means?

This is literally the opposite of fuddery

There's a new generation of Fudds. They're the same as the old but their guns are newer. So instead of Pappies sporterized K98k, it's an Bushmaster in .224 Valkyrie with a 4x12 Leupold on it and 24" SS BBL with a huge brake on it.

>it's an Bushmaster in .224 Valkyrie with a 4x12 Leupold on it
I've got a Bushmaster...

...in my pants.

NO YOU FUCKING RETARD
Fudds believe the only legitimate use for a gun is hunting and the only guns that should be allowed are shotguns and manual action rifles.
I'm so fucking tired of having to explain this shit all the goddamn time FUCK

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>language doesn't evolve with use
So when I say you're a faggot I mean you're a literal bundle of kindling.

>words change
Just like assault rifle huh?

>people misuse a word therefore the wrong usage is correct now
Oh okay
Silly me

>Are you being intentionally obtuse and pretending people don't hand tighten it before applying the torque wrench?

No, he's being literal and noting that it takes multiple revolutions to get the nut down that far.

Name gun literally Assault Rifle - 15

>its not an assault rifle you guys..I s-swear

This. Stop misusing words and trying to pass it off as changing the meaning, retards.

>Look everybody, I'm projecting!

Yes. Faggot.
Being literal, it takes one turn of the wrench to torque it after you've threaded it on. If we're being literal I didn't specify where the nut started on the threads. Being literal, you suck a bag grocery bags worth of dicks.
Fudd is an attitude and not defined by ownership of only one specific category of firearm.

Assault rifle has been a technical definition since the 60s. But thanks to inept mouthbreathers (like yourself) it has now been applied to any semi automatic rifle with a detachable magazine because of repeated misuse. This is the future you choose.

>Yes. Faggot.
Alright, I was under the impression that fudd now meant "anybody who likes what I don't like" on Jow Forums but thanks for confirming it.

Not really, you'd need to reset the wrench unless you're able to free hand thread a smooth nut with 40ft/lbs of force.

If you hand tighten a barrel nut it doesn't even take half a turn to get it between 30-80ft/lbs. How many times have you done this? Did you need to pay for the class?

>hand thread
>put on wrench
>tighten down
>handle is now below waist
>reset wrench to shoulder level
>tighten down a second time
>breaks at about sternum level
Wallah.

AR stands for Armalite Rifle

Are you really being this pedantic that you're arguing over the starting position of a wrench on a turn? Fine.
>Start wrench on other side
>pull towards you
>wrench breaks just below shoulder level
Wallah.

Yeah don't do this if you value your teeth.

My AR isnt an Armalite though, its a PSA

Or just don't put your head behind the wrench. There isn't a high likelihood of the wrench slipping off at such a low setting unless you're mentally incompetent anyway.

Is your cell phone a Motorola DynaTAC?

This is a great idea, what the fuck is wrong with you? A shitload of people own an AR and have no idea how it actually functions. Here we have an opportunity to both educate AND arm responsible citizens at a not unreasonable price, and this is somehow a bad thing? Do you think gun ownership should be some kind of exclusive secret club? Fuck your shit, arm the masses.

? No its an Iphone XS

>$650
>Not unreasonable
I bet you think Rifle Dynamics $2.2k AK build classes are a good deal too.

Guess it's not a cell phone then.

NPC does not mean SJW you fucking newfag